Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with DNS temporary failure

2008-05-20 Thread Jake Vickers

Guillermo Villasana wrote:

Hi guys I am having the following problem with this domain:
msa.hinet.net

every time I send an email to this domain I get:

DNS temporary failure

I checked my DNS and I do get several
Any thoughts why?


Maybe because they have all their MX records listed with 0 priority?  
You may need to set a static smtproute to get the messages to go through. 
Are you running an older version of QMT? It used to have a problem with 
lookups where the MX record pointed to a different domain name (in this 
case msa.hinet.net points to MX records located at hinet.net).



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with DNS temporary failure

2008-05-20 Thread Dan McAllister
Interesting query -- it took several checks to find the issue(s)... 
here's what I checked  what I deduced:

   # dig ns msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
This querey for the nameservers for the given domain (from a Verizon DNS 
server) reported NO NAME SERVERS


So, my assumption was that msa was a hostname on the hinet.net domain. 
But assumptions are bad, so I checked:

   # dig a msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
This query reported an IP address of 168.95.4.211, which means I MIGHT 
be right... but let's check further


I tried:
   # dig mx msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
which returned 9 different mail servers (msa-mx[1-9].hinet.net.), but 
ALL of them had a weight level of zero. This strongly implies that 
msa.hinet.net is intended to truly be a sub-domain of hinet.net... so I 
checked for a separate zone file with:

   # dig soa msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
and I received an SOA record... but wait, it was the SOA record for 
hinet.net, not the sub-domain.


So, what have we learned:
1) msa.hinet.net is not really a sub-domain for hinet.net. If that is 
what is desired, then a new zone file needs to be created, with a unique 
SOA and unique NS and MX records.
2) msa.hinet.net is (for now) a hostname (or more correctly, a Fully 
Qualified Domain Name: FQDN) -- but a hostname that has MX records 
(multiple) assigned to it (legal, but not completel legit)
3) The MX records for msa.hinet.net are incorrectly formated -- I'm not 
positive, but I don't believe a weight (or preference level) of zero is 
valid. Try a level of 10. I DO believe that having them all set to the 
same preference is legal -- it creates a round-robin effect (or at 
least is supposed to).


So -- at a minimum, fix your MX record preference levels. However, 
appearances seem to favor that you're trying to setup a truly 
differentiated sub-domain of hinet.net, in which case your DNS zone file 
needs to be created and correctly referenced within your hinet.net zone 
file.


I hope this helps someone!

Dan




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224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

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Guillermo Villasana wrote:

Hi guys I am having the following problem with this domain:
msa.hinet.net

every time I send an email to this domain I get:

DNS temporary failure

I checked my DNS and I do get several
Any thoughts why?
Thanks
Terius

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with DNS temporary failure

2008-05-20 Thread Dan McAllister
OOPS... I meant to include a link to a HOWTO for creating subdomain zone 
files (and creating the correct delegation)


See http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch9/delegate.html

I hope this helps... someone!

Dan


Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
727-647-7646 In Pinellas
813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
727-507-9435 Fax Only

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Dan McAllister wrote:
Interesting query -- it took several checks to find the issue(s)... 
here's what I checked  what I deduced:

   # dig ns msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
This querey for the nameservers for the given domain (from a Verizon 
DNS server) reported NO NAME SERVERS


So, my assumption was that msa was a hostname on the hinet.net domain. 
But assumptions are bad, so I checked:

   # dig a msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
This query reported an IP address of 168.95.4.211, which means I MIGHT 
be right... but let's check further


I tried:
   # dig mx msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
which returned 9 different mail servers (msa-mx[1-9].hinet.net.), but 
ALL of them had a weight level of zero. This strongly implies that 
msa.hinet.net is intended to truly be a sub-domain of hinet.net... so 
I checked for a separate zone file with:

   # dig soa msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
and I received an SOA record... but wait, it was the SOA record for 
hinet.net, not the sub-domain.


So, what have we learned:
1) msa.hinet.net is not really a sub-domain for hinet.net. If that 
is what is desired, then a new zone file needs to be created, with a 
unique SOA and unique NS and MX records.
2) msa.hinet.net is (for now) a hostname (or more correctly, a Fully 
Qualified Domain Name: FQDN) -- but a hostname that has MX records 
(multiple) assigned to it (legal, but not completel legit)
3) The MX records for msa.hinet.net are incorrectly formated -- I'm 
not positive, but I don't believe a weight (or preference level) of 
zero is valid. Try a level of 10. I DO believe that having them all 
set to the same preference is legal -- it creates a round-robin 
effect (or at least is supposed to).


So -- at a minimum, fix your MX record preference levels. However, 
appearances seem to favor that you're trying to setup a truly 
differentiated sub-domain of hinet.net, in which case your DNS zone 
file needs to be created and correctly referenced within your 
hinet.net zone file.


I hope this helps someone!

Dan




Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
727-647-7646 In Pinellas
813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
727-507-9435 Fax Only

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Guillermo Villasana wrote:

Hi guys I am having the following problem with this domain:
msa.hinet.net

every time I send an email to this domain I get:

DNS temporary failure

I checked my DNS and I do get several
Any thoughts why?
Thanks
Terius

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with DNS temporary failure

2008-05-20 Thread Guillermo Villasana
Well the problem was that for some reason my mailserver was not reaching 
my DNS server for that specific domain, so I added another server to 
/etc/resolv.conf and it started working.


I think it is odd though.

Thanks
Terius

Jake Vickers escribió:

Guillermo Villasana wrote:

Hi guys I am having the following problem with this domain:
msa.hinet.net

every time I send an email to this domain I get:

DNS temporary failure

I checked my DNS and I do get several
Any thoughts why?


Maybe because they have all their MX records listed with 0 priority?  
You may need to set a static smtproute to get the messages to go 
through. Are you running an older version of QMT? It used to have a 
problem with lookups where the MX record pointed to a different domain 
name (in this case msa.hinet.net points to MX records located at 
hinet.net).



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem with DNS temporary failure

2008-05-20 Thread Guillermo Villasana
thanks a lot, this was quite helpfull. and as I said before I used 
another DNS server that was able to find the domain and that helped. But 
as I don't manage that domain I am not sure what they are trying

Thanks again
Terius

Dan McAllister escribió:
OOPS... I meant to include a link to a HOWTO for creating subdomain zone 
files (and creating the correct delegation)


See http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch9/delegate.html

I hope this helps... someone!

Dan


Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
727-647-7646 In Pinellas
813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
727-507-9435 Fax Only

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Dan McAllister wrote:
Interesting query -- it took several checks to find the issue(s)... 
here's what I checked  what I deduced:

   # dig ns msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
This querey for the nameservers for the given domain (from a Verizon 
DNS server) reported NO NAME SERVERS


So, my assumption was that msa was a hostname on the hinet.net domain. 
But assumptions are bad, so I checked:

   # dig a msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
This query reported an IP address of 168.95.4.211, which means I MIGHT 
be right... but let's check further


I tried:
   # dig mx msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
which returned 9 different mail servers (msa-mx[1-9].hinet.net.), but 
ALL of them had a weight level of zero. This strongly implies that 
msa.hinet.net is intended to truly be a sub-domain of hinet.net... so 
I checked for a separate zone file with:

   # dig soa msa.hinet.net @4.2.2.2
and I received an SOA record... but wait, it was the SOA record for 
hinet.net, not the sub-domain.


So, what have we learned:
1) msa.hinet.net is not really a sub-domain for hinet.net. If that 
is what is desired, then a new zone file needs to be created, with a 
unique SOA and unique NS and MX records.
2) msa.hinet.net is (for now) a hostname (or more correctly, a Fully 
Qualified Domain Name: FQDN) -- but a hostname that has MX records 
(multiple) assigned to it (legal, but not completel legit)
3) The MX records for msa.hinet.net are incorrectly formated -- I'm 
not positive, but I don't believe a weight (or preference level) of 
zero is valid. Try a level of 10. I DO believe that having them all 
set to the same preference is legal -- it creates a round-robin 
effect (or at least is supposed to).


So -- at a minimum, fix your MX record preference levels. However, 
appearances seem to favor that you're trying to setup a truly 
differentiated sub-domain of hinet.net, in which case your DNS zone 
file needs to be created and correctly referenced within your 
hinet.net zone file.


I hope this helps someone!

Dan




Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
727-647-7646 In Pinellas
813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
727-507-9435 Fax Only

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Guillermo Villasana wrote:

Hi guys I am having the following problem with this domain:
msa.hinet.net

every time I send an email to this domain I get:

DNS temporary failure

I checked my DNS and I do get several
Any thoughts why?
Thanks
Terius

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