Re: [qmailtoaster] i get a lot of bounces

2007-04-25 Thread Eric \"Shubes\" 
Steve Ingraham wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eric "Shubes" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:56 AM
>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] i get a lot of bounces
>>
>>
>> Jim Shupert, Jr. wrote:
>>> I have been told of many bounces of email sent to me.
>>> The latest is from the qmail mailing list - I have also gotten 
>>> "robots"
>>> of other ( 3 other ) mailinglist
>>> regarding mail bounces.
>>>  
>>> I feel rather certain this coincides with my shifing my mail server 
>>> from Postfix to QmailToaster.
>>>  
>>> So , my Q might be does anyone know as to why this might be 
>>> happening? It does not seem to be a good thing.
>>>  
>>> Could I have something slightly wrong?
>>> ( the load on my qmailToaster is rather light... 1domain of 
>> 40 and a 
>>> second domainof <10 )
>>>  
>>> thanks
>>>  
>>> j
>>>  
>>> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''( in example)
>>> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the 
>>> qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com mailing list.
>>>
>>> I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
>>> at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>> ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''( end example
>> You haven't given enough detail to make an educated guess. :( 
>> It could be one or more of many things (probably just one though). ;)
>>
>> It would be most helpful to have the complete bounce. The 
>> meaningful part should be further down.
>>
>> Is it bouncing everything from the qmail list, or just some things?
> 
> Eric,
> I would like to post some information on bounces I am receiving that are
> similar to Jim's bounces.  I have been watching this thread for any
> information on this problem in hopes that answers to Jim will help with
> my bounce problems also.  I have been receiving these messages from
> various mail lists I subscribe to.  Any information that can be provided
> on what may be causing these bounces would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve
> 
> Here is the bounce information I received from the spamassassin mail
> list:
> 
> 
> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
> 
> 
> Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to
> have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I
> received.
> 
> If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe
> bounces, I will remove your address from the users mailing list, without
> further notice.
> 
> 
> I've kept a list of which messages from the users mailing list have 
> bounced from your address.
> 
> Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
> To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
> send a short message to:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
> send a short message to:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Here are the message numbers:
> 
>57513
>57578
> 
> --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
> 
> Return-Path: <>
> Received: (qmail 84548 invoked for bounce); 13 Apr 2007 01:10:38 -
> Date: 13 Apr 2007 01:10:38 -
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: failure notice
> 
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
> addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't
> work out.
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 204.87.111.225 failed after I sent the message.
> Remote host said: 554 Your email is considered spam (15.60 spam-hits)
> 

This last part is the meat of the bounce. Spamassassin scored the message
high enough that it was rejected. Kind of ironic, being the spamassassin
list. :)

I'm subscribed to that list too, but I'm not getting bounces. I'm thinking
that you have added some additional (non-stock) rules that are scoring these
messages higher.

I'd bump up your spam_hits value in /var/qmail/simcontrol to 20 or so
temporarily, so that these messages aren't rejected. They should still get
tagged as spam, but they'll be accepted. When you have received a few, check
the message headers to see which rules are strongly contributing to the
rejections. You can then either remove the offending rule, or adjust scoring
for it.

Alternatively, you could simply whitelist the mailer. Check the wiki and/or
list archives on how to do that.

HTH

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

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RE: [qmailtoaster] i get a lot of bounces

2007-04-25 Thread Steve Ingraham 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric "Shubes" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:56 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] i get a lot of bounces
> 
> 
> Jim Shupert, Jr. wrote:
> > I have been told of many bounces of email sent to me.
> > The latest is from the qmail mailing list - I have also gotten 
> > "robots"
> > of other ( 3 other ) mailinglist
> > regarding mail bounces.
> >  
> > I feel rather certain this coincides with my shifing my mail server 
> > from Postfix to QmailToaster.
> >  
> > So , my Q might be does anyone know as to why this might be 
> > happening? It does not seem to be a good thing.
> >  
> > Could I have something slightly wrong?
> > ( the load on my qmailToaster is rather light... 1domain of 
> 40 and a 
> > second domainof <10 )
> >  
> > thanks
> >  
> > j
> >  
> > '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''( in example)
> > Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the 
> > qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com mailing list.
> > 
> > I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
> > at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''( end example
> 
> You haven't given enough detail to make an educated guess. :( 
> It could be one or more of many things (probably just one though). ;)
> 
> It would be most helpful to have the complete bounce. The 
> meaningful part should be further down.
> 
> Is it bouncing everything from the qmail list, or just some things?

Eric,
I would like to post some information on bounces I am receiving that are
similar to Jim's bounces.  I have been watching this thread for any
information on this problem in hopes that answers to Jim will help with
my bounce problems also.  I have been receiving these messages from
various mail lists I subscribe to.  Any information that can be provided
on what may be causing these bounces would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve

Here is the bounce information I received from the spamassassin mail
list:


Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.


Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to
have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I
received.

If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe
bounces, I will remove your address from the users mailing list, without
further notice.


I've kept a list of which messages from the users mailing list have 
bounced from your address.

Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
send a short message to:
   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
send a short message to:
   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here are the message numbers:

   57513
   57578

--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.

Return-Path: <>
Received: (qmail 84548 invoked for bounce); 13 Apr 2007 01:10:38 -
Date: 13 Apr 2007 01:10:38 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't
work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
204.87.111.225 failed after I sent the message.
Remote host said: 554 Your email is considered spam (15.60 spam-hits)

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Re: [qmailtoaster] i get a lot of bounces

2007-04-25 Thread Eric \"Shubes\" 
Jim Shupert, Jr. wrote:
> I have been told of many bounces of email sent to me.
> The latest is from the qmail mailing list - I have also gotten "robots" 
> of other ( 3 other ) mailinglist
> regarding mail bounces.
>  
> I feel rather certain this coincides with my shifing my mail server from
> Postfix to QmailToaster.
>  
> So , my Q might be does anyone know as to why this might be happening?
> It does not seem to be a good thing.
>  
> Could I have something slightly wrong?
> ( the load on my qmailToaster is rather light... 1domain of 40 and a
> second domainof <10 )
>  
> thanks
>  
> j
>  
> '( in example)
> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com mailing list.
> 
> I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
> at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> ''( end example

You haven't given enough detail to make an educated guess. :( It could be
one or more of many things (probably just one though). ;)

It would be most helpful to have the complete bounce. The meaningful part
should be further down.

Is it bouncing everything from the qmail list, or just some things?

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

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