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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Branches side-panel (Michael Jackson)
2. Re: QtCreator 4.7 RC Feedback (Michael Jackson)
3. Re: QtCreator 4.7 RC Feedback (Eike Ziller)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:17:39 -0400
From: Michael Jackson <mike.jack...@bluequartz.net>
To: <qt-creator@qt-project.org>
Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] Branches side-panel
Message-ID: <c41990b5-6354-4200-abca-2ee35817f...@bluequartz.net>
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<dreaming>I would love to see a "workspace" that basically
incorporates the functionality of something like SourceTree or
GitKraken into QtCreator.</dreaming> I don't actually know what
QtCreator has to offer by way of Git functionality because those 2
applications are that good.
--
Mike Jackson
?On 7/4/18, 9:10 AM, "Qt-creator on behalf of Mathias Hasselmann"
<qt-creator-bounces+mike.jackson=bluequartz....@qt-project.org on
behalf of math...@taschenorakel.de> wrote:
Hi Orgad,
I'd totally love to see (much) better git integration in
QtCreator and
replacing the branches dialog would with a panel be a great start
for a
more natural git experience in QtCreator. I'd really love to see
such
change!
Thanks,
Mathias
Am 02.07.2018 um 19:49 schrieb Orgad Shaneh:
> Hi,
>
> There is a pending change
> <https://codereview.qt-project.org/217408> by Andr? Hartmann that
> introduces a Branches side-panel for Git.
>
> The current dialog is not modal, which I find a bit confusing,
and it
> has many buttons with dynamic enable/disable state. It also
hides the
> main window when open.
>
> Before we proceed with it, I'd like to hear your opinions:
>
> * Do you like it as a panel?
> * Do you prefer the panel or the current dialog?
> * How about removing the dialog and replacing it by the panel?
>
> Thanks,
> - Orgad
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:32:40 -0400
From: Michael Jackson <mike.jack...@bluequartz.net>
To: "qt-creator@qt-project.org" <qt-creator@qt-project.org>
Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator 4.7 RC Feedback
Message-ID: <49133341-7a34-45b1-8af3-ad9cea9e9...@bluequartz.net>
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Ok, Good suggestion. I went back and for the QtC 4.6 test the Clang
code model was turned off. So I went back and tried again. The Syntax
highlighting took about 5 seconds for the particular file that I am
using as my benchmark. More Importantly the drop down was populated
with the methods of the class in about 2 seconds which is reasonable.
At least I can start navigating quickly. By the time I find the method
I am interested in, the syntax highlighting is kicking in. With QtC
4.7 it is a different story. The function drop down appears at the
same time as I get the highlighting which is about 10 seconds based on
my screen captures. Of course I also get the full syntax highlighting
at that point also BUT not I have to wait that entire time. I guess I
would rather have the function drop down get populated first, then the
syntax highlighting/code completion if that takes longer? Of course I
could argue it both ways. I got used to the way that Qt4.5 and 4.6 did
it so now having
to wait breaks the cadence of opening a file and getting right to
work on it.
My system is macOS 10.13.x on a 2013 15? MacBook Pro. I sure hope that
Xcode?s libClang is not getting in the way. I would hope that the one
from QtC is used. Not sure how I would check that.
I can do some side by side screen recordings showing the differences
on my system anyone is interested.
--
Mike Jackson
On 7/4/18, 3:33 PM, "Ivan Donchevskii" <ivan.donchevs...@qt.io> wrote:
Hi!
If the initial parsing time is absolutely crucial for you you can turn
ClangCodeModel plugin off (it's turned on be default since 4.7).
ClangCodeModel provides more precise results but takes longer to parse
files. We did some work to make it faster but the most recent part of
it was mostly about code completion.
Also it's important that you use our prebuilt libclang shipped with Qt
Creator installer but not the one in your system because it might
provide the slowdown.
Hope that my answer helps you
Kind regards
Ivan
From: Qt-creator
<qt-creator-bounces+ivan.donchevskii=qt...@qt-project.org> on behalf
of Michael Jackson <mike.jack...@bluequartz.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 6:10:08 PM
To: qt-creator@qt-project.org
Subject: [Qt-creator] QtCreator 4.7 RC Feedback
Just wanted to throw some feedback while I use the 4.7 Betas and
RCs on my macOS systems. For the most part I like what I am seeing but
there currently is an issue that is really starting to get in the way.
The speed at which a C++ file is parsed so that all the syntax
highlighting and coloring becomes available is taking way too long.
With QtCreator 4.5 and 4.6 I would open a file and only a second at
most would pass and the method drop downs would be populated and I
could start navigating. With the 4.7 series (latest I pulled was from
July 4th) it takes 10 seconds to get the syntax highlighting and
navigating. (I did a side-by-side comparison with a screen recording
to verify the times).
I know that QtCreator is still in the RC mode and still being
developed but that wait times are making navigating a real issue. My
question: Are there still optimizations still being worked on for the
final release? I know from a previous post that the code model and
clang-tidy were thrown onto separate threads for good reasons but
something else is happening to slow down that initial parse/navigation
stage.
Again, thank you for the wonderful IDE that I use and rely on every
day. I don't think I could develop C++ codes on macOS without it.
--
Mike Jackson | Owner, President
BlueQuartz Software
[e] mike.jack...@bluequartz.net
[w] www.bluequartz.net
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 05:45:16 +0000
From: Eike Ziller <eike.zil...@qt.io>
To: Michael Jackson <mike.jack...@bluequartz.net>
Cc: "qt-creator@qt-project.org" <qt-creator@qt-project.org>
Subject: Re: [Qt-creator] QtCreator 4.7 RC Feedback
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On Jul 5, 2018, at 04:32, Michael Jackson
<mike.jack...@bluequartz.net> wrote:
Ok, Good suggestion. I went back and for the QtC 4.6 test the Clang
code model was turned off. So I went back and tried again. The Syntax
highlighting took about 5 seconds for the particular file that I am
using as my benchmark. More Importantly the drop down was populated
with the methods of the class in about 2 seconds which is reasonable.
At least I can start navigating quickly. By the time I find the
method I am interested in, the syntax highlighting is kicking in.
With QtC 4.7 it is a different story. The function drop down appears
at the same time as I get the highlighting which is about 10 seconds
based on my screen captures. Of course I also get the full syntax
highlighting at that point also BUT not I have to wait that entire
time. I guess I would rather have the function drop down get
populated first, then the syntax highlighting/code completion if that
takes longer? Of course I could argue it both ways. I got used to the
way that Qt4.5 and 4.6 did it so now havin
g to wait breaks the cadence of opening a file and getting right to
work on it.
My system is macOS 10.13.x on a 2013 15? MacBook Pro. I sure hope
that Xcode?s libClang is not getting in the way. I would hope that
the one from QtC is used. Not sure how I would check that.
I doubt that some other libclang gets in the way, but to be sure you
can check in Activity Monitor:
- find and select the Qt Creator process
- click the info tool button
- select ?Open Files and Ports?
- search for libclang and check the path
Br, Eike
I can do some side by side screen recordings showing the differences
on my system anyone is interested.
--
Mike Jackson
On 7/4/18, 3:33 PM, "Ivan Donchevskii" <ivan.donchevs...@qt.io> wrote:
Hi!
If the initial parsing time is absolutely crucial for you you can
turn ClangCodeModel plugin off (it's turned on be default since 4.7).
ClangCodeModel provides more precise results but takes longer to
parse files. We did some work to make it faster but the most recent
part of it was mostly about code completion.
Also it's important that you use our prebuilt libclang shipped with
Qt Creator installer but not the one in your system because it might
provide the slowdown.
Hope that my answer helps you
Kind regards
Ivan
From: Qt-creator
<qt-creator-bounces+ivan.donchevskii=qt...@qt-project.org> on behalf
of Michael Jackson <mike.jack...@bluequartz.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 6:10:08 PM
To: qt-creator@qt-project.org
Subject: [Qt-creator] QtCreator 4.7 RC Feedback
Just wanted to throw some feedback while I use the 4.7 Betas and
RCs on my macOS systems. For the most part I like what I am seeing
but there currently is an issue that is really starting to get in the
way. The speed at which a C++ file is parsed so that all the syntax
highlighting and coloring becomes available is taking way too long.
With QtCreator 4.5 and 4.6 I would open a file and only a second at
most would pass and the method drop downs would be populated and I
could start navigating. With the 4.7 series (latest I pulled was from
July 4th) it takes 10 seconds to get the syntax highlighting and
navigating. (I did a side-by-side comparison with a screen recording
to verify the times).
I know that QtCreator is still in the RC mode and still being
developed but that wait times are making navigating a real issue. My
question: Are there still optimizations still being worked on for the
final release? I know from a previous post that the code model and
clang-tidy were thrown onto separate threads for good reasons but
something else is happening to slow down that initial
parse/navigation stage.
Again, thank you for the wonderful IDE that I use and rely on
every day. I don't think I could develop C++ codes on macOS without it.
--
Mike Jackson | Owner, President
BlueQuartz Software
[e] mike.jack...@bluequartz.net
[w] www.bluequartz.net
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