Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#

2013-10-14 Thread Ziller Eike
Hi,

I can mainly repeat what I already said, so maybe it's boring ;)

I can't wrap my mind around vertical text. Since we moved the progress 
information out, we already have the option to hide the mode bar, and I think 
we could have a small icons version in addition, though I'd then actually 
would consider removing the text completely instead of having vertical text.

I actually like your mode icons, only the debug icon looks too similar to the 
android icon, at least that's what I first thought it was. (And obviously 
'space invader' and 'crab' are other first impressions.)

And finally what I think would be more helpful than a redesign (which would btw 
then need to include *much* more than just the edit mode): some evolution of 
the current design. E.g. going over all icons and making them more consistent / 
improving them, improving the look and feel of the combo boxes in tool bars, 
going through screens, dialogs, etc and cleaning the layouts, and things like 
providing a small icon version of the mode bar.

Br, Eike

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Subject: [Qt-creator] Design 3#

Hey Folks,

Some new Designs :)

Light Theme:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png

Dark Theme:
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png


I would appreciate useful feedback.

Best,
Eli
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Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#

2013-10-13 Thread André Hartmann
I really like the small mode bar at the left side.

But if text is written vertically, it should be readable from the right 
side!

But maybe it's enough to display the text as tooltip.
In this case, I'd prefer to have menu items for the mode switching too.

Juts my two cents,
André

 Hey Folks,

 Some new Designs J

 Light Theme:

 http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png

 Dark Theme:

 http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png

 I would appreciate useful feedback.

 Best,

 Eli



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Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#

2013-10-13 Thread David Schulz


Am 10/11/2013 7:30 PM, schrieb Elias Steurer:


Hey Folks,

Some new Designs J

Light Theme:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png

Dark Theme:

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png

I would appreciate useful feedback.

Best,

Eli



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Hi,

I personally like the dark theme and don't mind the flat design of the 
UI, but Leena already pointed you in your first proposal to 
http://qt-project.org/doc/qtcreator-2.8/creator-faq.html#questions-about-new-features.


There are all the reasons mentioned why will not accept tabs for editors 
in QtCreator. So please take this into account for your next proposal.


Cheers

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Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#

2013-10-12 Thread Diego Iastrubni
I am not going to comment on the flat interface, nor the tabs, nor menus on
the title bar.

However:
The icons are just epic, please do share then independently and let
QtCreator 3.1 use them (3.0 is done by now, correct?). Maybe adding a
little more contrast on light themes will help, but this is *just nice.*


On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Elias Steurer el...@evolutionzone.netwrote:

 Hey Folks,

 ** **

 Some new Designs J

 ** **

 Light Theme:

 http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png

 ** **

 Dark Theme:

 http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png

 ** **

 ** **

 I would appreciate useful feedback. 

 ** **

 Best,

 Eli

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[Qt-creator] Design 3#

2013-10-11 Thread Elias Steurer
Hey Folks,

 

Some new Designs :)

 

Light Theme:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png

 

Dark Theme:

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png

 

 

I would appreciate useful feedback. 

 

Best,

Eli

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Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#

2013-10-11 Thread Tobias Hunger
Sorry, no tabs for me.

2013/10/11 Elias Steurer el...@evolutionzone.net:
 Hey Folks,



 Some new Designs J



 Light Theme:

 http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png



 Dark Theme:

 http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png





 I would appreciate useful feedback.



 Best,

 Eli


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Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#

2013-10-11 Thread Coda Highland
I second no tabs, and add that the Photoshop for Windows / Chrome
style of menus embedded in the title bar violates the UI paradigm on
Mac and can interfere with the window manager on X11.

/s/ Adam

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Tobias Hunger tobias.hun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, no tabs for me.

 2013/10/11 Elias Steurer el...@evolutionzone.net:
 Hey Folks,



 Some new Designs J



 Light Theme:

 http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png



 Dark Theme:

 http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png





 I would appreciate useful feedback.



 Best,

 Eli


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Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#

2013-10-11 Thread Cristian Tibirna
On Friday 11 October 2013 19:30:07 Elias Steurer wrote:
 Hey Folks,
 
 
 
 Some new Designs :)
 
 
 
 Light Theme:
 
 http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png
 
 
 
 Dark Theme:
 
 http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png
 

Thanks a lot for your steady and thoughtful work. It is much appreciated.

The tabs in the toolbar are ugly, counterintuitive and an usability nightmare.

The icons at the right of the toolbar are confounding. I get the green 
triangle and the red crab (why not a bug???), but the camera and the diaphragm 
are confounding me. What are these?

The locator (I guess called search in the screenshot) should be placed at 
the left (either up or down), in order to fit with the mental concept that 
locating/searching is the first thing to be done in any sequence of actions. 
At least in a left-to-right writing culture, left means first.

The vertical writings in the left toolbar, even if with 10 or 12pt font, are 
about 10% as readable as a horizontal label, even written with 5 or 6pt  
fonts.

The (overrated) flat design removes much from the usability of 3d-hinted 
buttons and icons.

Create menu item is surprising. Build is both much more suggestive and 
more traditional (thus better known/understood).

Menu items denote actions (Yes, even File and Help). So, Debugging should 
remain Debug.

The menu-in-window-bar thing is only for windows, right?

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