Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#
Hi, I can mainly repeat what I already said, so maybe it's boring ;) I can't wrap my mind around vertical text. Since we moved the progress information out, we already have the option to hide the mode bar, and I think we could have a small icons version in addition, though I'd then actually would consider removing the text completely instead of having vertical text. I actually like your mode icons, only the debug icon looks too similar to the android icon, at least that's what I first thought it was. (And obviously 'space invader' and 'crab' are other first impressions.) And finally what I think would be more helpful than a redesign (which would btw then need to include *much* more than just the edit mode): some evolution of the current design. E.g. going over all icons and making them more consistent / improving them, improving the look and feel of the combo boxes in tool bars, going through screens, dialogs, etc and cleaning the layouts, and things like providing a small icon version of the mode bar. Br, Eike -- Eike Ziller Senior Software Engineer Digia Germany GmbH Rudower Chaussee 13, D-12489 Berlin Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Registergericht: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B, Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi, Juha Varelius, Anja Wasenius Email: eike.zil...@digia.com From: qt-creator-bounces+eike.ziller=digia@qt-project.org [qt-creator-bounces+eike.ziller=digia@qt-project.org] on behalf of Elias Steurer [el...@evolutionzone.net] Sent: 11 October 2013 19:30 To: qt-creator@qt-project.org Subject: [Qt-creator] Design 3# Hey Folks, Some new Designs :) Light Theme: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png Dark Theme: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png I would appreciate useful feedback. Best, Eli ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#
I really like the small mode bar at the left side. But if text is written vertically, it should be readable from the right side! But maybe it's enough to display the text as tooltip. In this case, I'd prefer to have menu items for the mode switching too. Juts my two cents, André Hey Folks, Some new Designs J Light Theme: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png Dark Theme: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png I would appreciate useful feedback. Best, Eli ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#
Am 10/11/2013 7:30 PM, schrieb Elias Steurer: Hey Folks, Some new Designs J Light Theme: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png Dark Theme: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png I would appreciate useful feedback. Best, Eli ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator Hi, I personally like the dark theme and don't mind the flat design of the UI, but Leena already pointed you in your first proposal to http://qt-project.org/doc/qtcreator-2.8/creator-faq.html#questions-about-new-features. There are all the reasons mentioned why will not accept tabs for editors in QtCreator. So please take this into account for your next proposal. Cheers David ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#
I am not going to comment on the flat interface, nor the tabs, nor menus on the title bar. However: The icons are just epic, please do share then independently and let QtCreator 3.1 use them (3.0 is done by now, correct?). Maybe adding a little more contrast on light themes will help, but this is *just nice.* On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Elias Steurer el...@evolutionzone.netwrote: Hey Folks, ** ** Some new Designs J ** ** Light Theme: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png ** ** Dark Theme: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png ** ** ** ** I would appreciate useful feedback. ** ** Best, Eli ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
[Qt-creator] Design 3#
Hey Folks, Some new Designs :) Light Theme: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png Dark Theme: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png I would appreciate useful feedback. Best, Eli ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#
Sorry, no tabs for me. 2013/10/11 Elias Steurer el...@evolutionzone.net: Hey Folks, Some new Designs J Light Theme: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png Dark Theme: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png I would appreciate useful feedback. Best, Eli ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#
I second no tabs, and add that the Photoshop for Windows / Chrome style of menus embedded in the title bar violates the UI paradigm on Mac and can interfere with the window manager on X11. /s/ Adam On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Tobias Hunger tobias.hun...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, no tabs for me. 2013/10/11 Elias Steurer el...@evolutionzone.net: Hey Folks, Some new Designs J Light Theme: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png Dark Theme: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png I would appreciate useful feedback. Best, Eli ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator
Re: [Qt-creator] Design 3#
On Friday 11 October 2013 19:30:07 Elias Steurer wrote: Hey Folks, Some new Designs :) Light Theme: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4947/5h2.png Dark Theme: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2734/rspm.png Thanks a lot for your steady and thoughtful work. It is much appreciated. The tabs in the toolbar are ugly, counterintuitive and an usability nightmare. The icons at the right of the toolbar are confounding. I get the green triangle and the red crab (why not a bug???), but the camera and the diaphragm are confounding me. What are these? The locator (I guess called search in the screenshot) should be placed at the left (either up or down), in order to fit with the mental concept that locating/searching is the first thing to be done in any sequence of actions. At least in a left-to-right writing culture, left means first. The vertical writings in the left toolbar, even if with 10 or 12pt font, are about 10% as readable as a horizontal label, even written with 5 or 6pt fonts. The (overrated) flat design removes much from the usability of 3d-hinted buttons and icons. Create menu item is surprising. Build is both much more suggestive and more traditional (thus better known/understood). Menu items denote actions (Yes, even File and Help). So, Debugging should remain Debug. The menu-in-window-bar thing is only for windows, right? -- Cristian Tibirna KDE developer .. tibi...@kde.org .. http://www.kde.org ___ Qt-creator mailing list Qt-creator@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/qt-creator