Re: [Qt-creator] Again checked qt-creator progress...

2010-12-04 Thread Guido Seifert


 And also, I learned when I was a little kid that any critical analysis 
 has to start with presenting the good parts and only afterward exposing 
 the critiques.

Actually I did. I said the creator improved, e.g. that at least some of the 
annoyances can be switched off now. When the first version came out I expected 
much from the trolls and was extremely disappointed. It did not even come close 
to, e.g. kdevelop. Now at least it plays in the same league. 

...

 This is why the support for keyboard is so great in QtCreator that one
 never (litterally) needs a mouse.

Matter of opinion?

You said that all of my critique is only matter of opinion. I doubt it. Except 
for trivial projects coding is inherently a difficult task. It is clearly no 
matter of opinion that code quality and coding speed decrease in a noisy 
environment. And why do many ppl. use adblock to switch off animated ads in 
webpages? Because they generally hate ads? More likely because it is 
distracting them from the content they actually want to read. So it is 
absolutely no matter of opinion that animated stuff like popups or tooltips are 
distracting. Maybe just some ppl. can cope better with it. So features like 
that should be limited to emergency situations. 

 
 Tools(Alt+T)/Options/Editor/Completion.

As I already in my first post said: Some of the annoyances can be switched off.
 
  Would IM(H)O improve the creator tremendously.
 
 QtCreator is a rather young project. After 20 years in software
 development and many editors tested on 3 platforms, I believe it is also 
 one of the best *environments* equipped with an editor. But this is also 
 matter of opinion.

It is fine. And at least for Qt-Quick there is currently no better alternative. 
This is the main reason why I care at all. For pure C++ stuff I use a kdevelop 
version where I patched all the annoying and superfluous informations out 
myself. But of course this makes it difficult to upgrade. I simply have not the 
time to do the same for the creator and reapply or even to modify my patches 
whenever a new version comes out.

 And then, of course, there remains at least the 
 possibility of using another editor, which suits your needs and
 requirements better, in its actual form, without you getting involved 
 or stressed up.

It is not that easy. This abuse of tooltips/popups seems to be a general 
afflictions most editors share. I tried a quite a few. The only remotely usable 
were eclipse, kdevelop, and the QtCreator.

 The initial behaviour that triggered all this out-of-topic thread is 
 called trolling in the open-source circles I frequent .

Haha, I might not be the most pleasant dialogue partner, but you might want to 
check the usual definition of 'trolling'. My initial post might have been a 
little rude to the developers of QtCreator, but was far from a troll post. And 
out-of-topic? Each post and each reply from me and a few others contained a 
statement whether my initial point is valid or not. I'd say not out-of-topic, 
but with a huge noise level. ;-) 

 then you actually care enough about this tool to want to see it 
 better and make it yours.

Exactly. I'd love to use the creator. After all this time, this 'information 
overflow' I criticised here, is for me the only remaining show stopper. There 
may be a few other points, which I'd like to see implemented differently, but 
those are minor and now the advantages of the creator outweigh by far those 
little flaws, which actually are a matter of opinion.


Guido

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Re: [Qt-creator] status of gdb crashes and QtCreator 2.1?

2010-12-04 Thread Harri Pasanen


On Friday, December 03, 2010 09:54:33 pm Andre Poenitz wrote:
 Hi Carlos.
 
 On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 11:35:58AM -0500, Carlos Smith wrote:
  We are very happy with QtCreator, it is a very nice piece of work.  We
  are running the QtCreator 2.1.0 rc1 (though we've been seeing this as
  far back as 2.0 when we switched from Eclipse CDT to QtCreator) and Qt
  4.7 and 4.7.1, on Windows 7 32 bit using the mingw toolchain provided
  with Qt.
  
  However, we are having big problems with gdb crashing at apparently
  random times while we are debugging.
 
 Both 7.1 and 7.2 are fairly robust on Linux. In fact, I am happy with
 what I see there. They have different sets of bugs, though, and there is
 no released version of Qt Creator with a full set of workarounds for all
 known 7.2 bugs. So 7.1 is actually a good choice. I think 7.2 will be
 good with the Creator 2.1 release, not now (due to a recently discovered
 problem with template parameters). As a rule of thumb it's pretty
 straightforward to work around a bug as soon as it is known.
 
 That is on _Linux_.
 

I'd like to confirm that on Linux (I'm on Kubuntu 10.04 64 bit) Qt Creator and 
out of the box gdb are very stable.  I do enjoy using Qt Creator a lot, 
definitely beats Eclipse in my opinion.

Even though my commercial work currently targets Windows and  Symbian, I do 
most of my development, including debugging on Linux.  Only for deployment and 
occasional on-device debugging I use WinXP inside a VirtualBox.  That may 
sound cumbersome, but actually is not.  For me making a windows version takes 
just these steps:

On linux:
  tar czf ~/shared/myprog.tgz myprog
Move to VirtualBox window with Qt command prompt open:
  tar xzf x:/myprog.tgz   # [1]
  cd myprog 
  qmake  make

[1] I've mapped X to a ~/shared folder what virtualbox shares from host

Just my 2 cents..

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Grego
http://mpaja.com/
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Re: [Qt-creator] How to modify output-directory of exe or how to set a working directory?

2010-12-04 Thread Coda Highland
 Then there's the | symbol.  In this context, is it a separator for strings
 or a logical or?  Assuming CONFIG contains either debug or release, how is
 CONFIG(debug, debug|release) different from CONFIG(debug)?

CONFIG(debug) returns true if the CONFIG variable contains debug.

CONFIG(debug, debug|release) returns true if, out of the
mutually-exclusive set of debug and release, the last value set
was debug.

So for CONFIG = debug release, CONFIG(debug) returns true but
CONFIG(debug, debug|release) returns false.

/s/ Adam

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[Qt-creator] Transparency on QLabel

2010-12-04 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Hi,

I have a QLabel that I stick an image on (via css' background-image). Is it
possible to give the label itself, and thus the image, a level of
transparency? ie, can I have it so the image becomes 50% transparent?
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