Re: [Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-04-11 Thread Stephen Chu
On 3/31/2010 9:43 AM, Stephen Chu wrote:
 I see the latest snapeshot (201003310030) has both buttons back. Thanks
 a lot!


So I have this idea: Why not making the Debug/Run buttons smarter by 
changing them into Pause/Stop during debugging session? I switch to edit 
mode a lot during debug session. And find it cumbersome to look for the 
stop button in another mode.

I filed a suggestion here:
http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-1119
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Re: [Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen Chu
I see the latest snapeshot (201003310030) has both buttons back. Thanks 
a lot!

On 3/25/10 10:16 AM, Stephen Chu wrote:
 I notice that the 2 run and debug buttons are now merged into 1. And
 works differently depending on if you are in Edit (run) or Debug (debug)
 mode.

 I like the previous 2 buttons way better. It allows access to both
 actions in all modes. I mostly work in Edit mode since it has more real
 estate to work with in the editor. Now I need to switch to Debug mode to
 click at the debug button.

 Of course I can always just hit F5. But if that's the rationale of
 having just one button, why having button at all then?

 And if for some reason there can absolutely be one button, make it the
 debug button all the time. It's way more useful in an IDE.



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[Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-03-25 Thread Stephen Chu
I notice that the 2 run and debug buttons are now merged into 1. And 
works differently depending on if you are in Edit (run) or Debug (debug) 
mode.

I like the previous 2 buttons way better. It allows access to both 
actions in all modes. I mostly work in Edit mode since it has more real 
estate to work with in the editor. Now I need to switch to Debug mode to 
click at the debug button.

Of course I can always just hit F5. But if that's the rationale of 
having just one button, why having button at all then?

And if for some reason there can absolutely be one button, make it the 
debug button all the time. It's way more useful in an IDE.

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Re: [Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-03-25 Thread Coda Highland
My suggestion would be to have shift+click use the other mode, or add
a context menu, or both.

/s/ Adam

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Stephen Chu step...@ju-ju.com wrote:
 I notice that the 2 run and debug buttons are now merged into 1. And
 works differently depending on if you are in Edit (run) or Debug (debug)
 mode.

 I like the previous 2 buttons way better. It allows access to both
 actions in all modes. I mostly work in Edit mode since it has more real
 estate to work with in the editor. Now I need to switch to Debug mode to
 click at the debug button.

 Of course I can always just hit F5. But if that's the rationale of
 having just one button, why having button at all then?

 And if for some reason there can absolutely be one button, make it the
 debug button all the time. It's way more useful in an IDE.

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Re: [Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-03-25 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 11:27 -0400, Stephen Chu wrote:
 Better yet. Switch between Run and Debug automatically depending on the 
 build config.

A good idea, if that status is prominently displayed.
 
 On 3/25/10 11:09 AM, Coda Highland wrote:
  My suggestion would be to have shift+click use the other mode, or add
  a context menu, or both.
 
  /s/ Adam
 
  On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Stephen Chustep...@ju-ju.com  wrote:
  I notice that the 2 run and debug buttons are now merged into 1. And
  works differently depending on if you are in Edit (run) or Debug (debug)
  mode.
 
  I like the previous 2 buttons way better. It allows access to both
  actions in all modes. I mostly work in Edit mode since it has more real
  estate to work with in the editor. Now I need to switch to Debug mode to
  click at the debug button.
 
  Of course I can always just hit F5. But if that's the rationale of
  having just one button, why having button at all then?
 
  And if for some reason there can absolutely be one button, make it the
  debug button all the time. It's way more useful in an IDE.
 
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Re: [Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-03-25 Thread Coda Highland
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 11:27 -0400, Stephen Chu wrote:
 Better yet. Switch between Run and Debug automatically depending on the
 build config.

 A good idea, if that status is prominently displayed.

It would have to have a default run mode option stored in the build
config, since you can have more than just debug and release
configs.

/s/ Adam
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Re: [Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-03-25 Thread Eike Ziller

On Mar 25, 2010, at 4:09 PM, ext Coda Highland wrote:

 My suggestion would be to have shift+click use the other mode, or add
 a context menu, or both.

Actually you can do that with Qt Creator on the Mac already (Alt+click though) 
:)
But on this platform it is sort of an accepted paradigm that tool buttons can 
have
different meanings while pressing Alt.

++ Eike

 /s/ Adam
 
 On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Stephen Chu step...@ju-ju.com wrote:
 I notice that the 2 run and debug buttons are now merged into 1. And
 works differently depending on if you are in Edit (run) or Debug (debug)
 mode.
 
 I like the previous 2 buttons way better. It allows access to both
 actions in all modes. I mostly work in Edit mode since it has more real
 estate to work with in the editor. Now I need to switch to Debug mode to
 click at the debug button.
 
 Of course I can always just hit F5. But if that's the rationale of
 having just one button, why having button at all then?
 
 And if for some reason there can absolutely be one button, make it the
 debug button all the time. It's way more useful in an IDE.
 
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Re: [Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-03-25 Thread Mark Long
What about a tool button which remembers the last state (debug/run/etc.) 
with a click-and-hold action which produces all of the available 
options, then changes the default button when one is selected?  Or is 
that what you meant by context menu?

-Mark


Coda Highland wrote:
 My suggestion would be to have shift+click use the other mode, or add
 a context menu, or both.

 /s/ Adam

 On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Stephen Chu step...@ju-ju.com wrote:
   
 I notice that the 2 run and debug buttons are now merged into 1. And
 works differently depending on if you are in Edit (run) or Debug (debug)
 mode.

 I like the previous 2 buttons way better. It allows access to both
 actions in all modes. I mostly work in Edit mode since it has more real
 estate to work with in the editor. Now I need to switch to Debug mode to
 click at the debug button.

 Of course I can always just hit F5. But if that's the rationale of
 having just one button, why having button at all then?

 And if for some reason there can absolutely be one button, make it the
 debug button all the time. It's way more useful in an IDE.

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Re: [Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-03-25 Thread Eike Ziller

On Mar 25, 2010, at 5:15 PM, ext Coda Highland wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 11:27 -0400, Stephen Chu wrote:
 Better yet. Switch between Run and Debug automatically depending on the
 build config.
 
 A good idea, if that status is prominently displayed.
 
 It would have to have a default run mode option stored in the build
 config, since you can have more than just debug and release
 configs.


I usually just do a Run (even with a debug build), except for phases during 
which I'm debugging a specific problem.
Also it sounds a bit overkill to add a phalanx of options for the behavior of a 
single stupid button :)

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Re: [Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-03-25 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 05:52:44PM +0100, Eike Ziller wrote:
 
 On Mar 25, 2010, at 4:09 PM, ext Coda Highland wrote:
 
  My suggestion would be to have shift+click use the other mode, or add
  a context menu, or both.
 
 Actually you can do that with Qt Creator on the Mac already (Alt+click 
 though) :)
 But on this platform it is sort of an accepted paradigm that tool buttons can 
 have
 different meanings while pressing Alt.

Is there a reason not to use it on non-Mac as well?

Andre'
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Re: [Qt-creator] Run Debug buttons in the latest snapshots

2010-03-25 Thread Coda Highland
 That's a lot of talk for just a button. Can we just have both of them
 back? The old design works. Why change it?

Small screens, I imagine -- netbooks don't have a lot of vertical
screen real estate, so the less you put there, the better.

/s/ Adam
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