Re: [Qt-creator] new C++ indenter: request for feedback

2010-07-09 Thread eike.ziller

On Jul 8, 2010, at 11:34 PM, ext Bryce Schober wrote:

 It'd be nice if at least Nokia would release Qt 4.7 binary pre-releases for 
 Linux, like the other platforms. That would make the process of getting to 
 building Qt Creator a lot shorter.

Hm, looks like we never release Qt-only binary packages for Linux.
For the Qt 4.7 release candidate we'll distribute a RC of the updated Qt SDK as 
well, which will give you a binary Qt 4.7 for Linux again.

++ Eike

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:14 AM, kai.koe...@nokia.com wrote:
 Bryce Schober wrote on Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:51 PM:
 
  Too bad we don't get master binary snapshots. Maybe I should repeat this 
  mantra indefinitely. ;-)
 
 I think we got the point now :) We have some dedicated machines here for the 
 nightly builds. They are however building from the 2.0 branch, because that's 
 were the next release will come from (see e-mail from Eike a while ago). And 
 we AFAIK don't have the resources to build two in configurations in parallel.
 
 Anyhow, out of curiosity: Why do you push so much for nightly builds, in 
 contrast to compiling yourself? It's true that you might have to compile Qt 
 yourself then once, but then updating / recompiling creator afterwards isn't 
 really a big hassle.
 
 Kai

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Re: [Qt-creator] new C++ indenter: request for feedback

2010-07-09 Thread Bryce Schober
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:37 AM, eike.zil...@nokia.com wrote:


 On Jul 8, 2010, at 11:34 PM, ext Bryce Schober wrote:

  It'd be nice if at least Nokia would release Qt 4.7 binary pre-releases
 for Linux, like the other platforms. That would make the process of getting
 to building Qt Creator a lot shorter.

 Hm, looks like we never release Qt-only binary packages for Linux.


Should I assume there's a good reason for that?

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Re: [Qt-creator] new C++ indenter: request for feedback

2010-07-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Hours?  It only needs about 30 minutes to build on an (by now) old Core 
2 Duo.  I even got it to 20 minutes if I disable stuff I don't need.

It's really fast and easy to build your own binaries.  I highly 
recommend it :)


On 07/08/2010 09:30 PM, Coda Highland wrote:
 Seriously, if you've got reasonably modern hardware the whole rebuild
 process should only take a couple hours (unless you're building
 four-way universal binaries or something, but that's just silly if
 you're not intending to distribute).

 /s/ Adam

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:14 PM,kai.koe...@nokia.com  wrote:
 Bryce Schober wrote on Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:51 PM:

 Too bad we don't get master binary snapshots. Maybe I should repeat this 
 mantra indefinitely. ;-)

 I think we got the point now :) We have some dedicated machines here for the 
 nightly builds. They are however building from the 2.0 branch, because 
 that's were the next release will come from (see e-mail from Eike a while 
 ago). And we AFAIK don't have the resources to build two in configurations 
 in parallel.

 Anyhow, out of curiosity: Why do you push so much for nightly builds, in 
 contrast to compiling yourself? It's true that you might have to compile Qt 
 yourself then once, but then updating / recompiling creator afterwards isn't 
 really a big hassle.

 Kai
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Re: [Qt-creator] new C++ indenter: request for feedback

2010-07-08 Thread Coda Highland
You can build QtWebKit that fast? *blink* I'd believe the 20 minute
figure if you disable QtWebKit but I think Creator needs it.

/s/ Adam

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
 Hours?  It only needs about 30 minutes to build on an (by now) old Core
 2 Duo.  I even got it to 20 minutes if I disable stuff I don't need.

 It's really fast and easy to build your own binaries.  I highly
 recommend it :)


 On 07/08/2010 09:30 PM, Coda Highland wrote:
 Seriously, if you've got reasonably modern hardware the whole rebuild
 process should only take a couple hours (unless you're building
 four-way universal binaries or something, but that's just silly if
 you're not intending to distribute).

 /s/ Adam

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:14 PM,kai.koe...@nokia.com  wrote:
 Bryce Schober wrote on Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:51 PM:

 Too bad we don't get master binary snapshots. Maybe I should repeat this 
 mantra indefinitely. ;-)

 I think we got the point now :) We have some dedicated machines here for 
 the nightly builds. They are however building from the 2.0 branch, because 
 that's were the next release will come from (see e-mail from Eike a while 
 ago). And we AFAIK don't have the resources to build two in configurations 
 in parallel.

 Anyhow, out of curiosity: Why do you push so much for nightly builds, in 
 contrast to compiling yourself? It's true that you might have to compile Qt 
 yourself then once, but then updating / recompiling creator afterwards 
 isn't really a big hassle.

 Kai
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Re: [Qt-creator] new C++ indenter: request for feedback

2010-07-08 Thread Michael Jackson
30 Minutes? For all of Qt? What hardware are you building on? I have an 8
way Xeon Nehalem using GCC with 16 threads and it takes at least an hour or
so to build with WebKit disabled...

Mike Jackson

On 7/8/10 3:00 PM, in article
aanlktilfeinaqca9_lm9iw5ezkepn_nyoysgeds7x...@mail.gmail.com, Coda
Highland wrote:

 You can build QtWebKit that fast? *blink* I'd believe the 20 minute
 figure if you disable QtWebKit but I think Creator needs it.
 
 /s/ Adam
 
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
 Hours?  It only needs about 30 minutes to build on an (by now) old Core
 2 Duo.  I even got it to 20 minutes if I disable stuff I don't need.
 
 It's really fast and easy to build your own binaries.  I highly
 recommend it :)
 
 
 On 07/08/2010 09:30 PM, Coda Highland wrote:
 Seriously, if you've got reasonably modern hardware the whole rebuild
 process should only take a couple hours (unless you're building
 four-way universal binaries or something, but that's just silly if
 you're not intending to distribute).
 
 /s/ Adam
 
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:14 PM,kai.koe...@nokia.com  wrote:
 Bryce Schober wrote on Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:51 PM:
 
 Too bad we don't get master binary snapshots. Maybe I should repeat this
 mantra indefinitely. ;-)
 
 I think we got the point now :) We have some dedicated machines here for
 the nightly builds. They are however building from the 2.0 branch, because
 that's were the next release will come from (see e-mail from Eike a while
 ago). And we AFAIK don't have the resources to build two in configurations
 in parallel.
 
 Anyhow, out of curiosity: Why do you push so much for nightly builds, in
 contrast to compiling yourself? It's true that you might have to compile Qt
 yourself then once, but then updating / recompiling creator afterwards
 isn't really a big hassle.
 
 Kai
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Re: [Qt-creator] new C++ indenter: request for feedback

2010-07-08 Thread Coda Highland
I have two dual-core Xeon 2.66GHz and build with five threads and it
only takes me ~45 minutes to build Qt without WebKit; did you forget
to disable demos and examples?

/s/ Adam

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Michael Jackson
mike.jack...@bluequartz.net wrote:
 30 Minutes? For all of Qt? What hardware are you building on? I have an 8
 way Xeon Nehalem using GCC with 16 threads and it takes at least an hour or
 so to build with WebKit disabled...

 Mike Jackson

 On 7/8/10 3:00 PM, in article
 aanlktilfeinaqca9_lm9iw5ezkepn_nyoysgeds7x...@mail.gmail.com, Coda
 Highland wrote:

 You can build QtWebKit that fast? *blink* I'd believe the 20 minute
 figure if you disable QtWebKit but I think Creator needs it.

 /s/ Adam

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
 Hours?  It only needs about 30 minutes to build on an (by now) old Core
 2 Duo.  I even got it to 20 minutes if I disable stuff I don't need.

 It's really fast and easy to build your own binaries.  I highly
 recommend it :)


 On 07/08/2010 09:30 PM, Coda Highland wrote:
 Seriously, if you've got reasonably modern hardware the whole rebuild
 process should only take a couple hours (unless you're building
 four-way universal binaries or something, but that's just silly if
 you're not intending to distribute).

 /s/ Adam

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:14 PM,kai.koe...@nokia.com  wrote:
 Bryce Schober wrote on Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:51 PM:

 Too bad we don't get master binary snapshots. Maybe I should repeat this
 mantra indefinitely. ;-)

 I think we got the point now :) We have some dedicated machines here for
 the nightly builds. They are however building from the 2.0 branch, because
 that's were the next release will come from (see e-mail from Eike a while
 ago). And we AFAIK don't have the resources to build two in configurations
 in parallel.

 Anyhow, out of curiosity: Why do you push so much for nightly builds, in
 contrast to compiling yourself? It's true that you might have to compile 
 Qt
 yourself then once, but then updating / recompiling creator afterwards
 isn't really a big hassle.

 Kai
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Re: [Qt-creator] new C++ indenter: request for feedback

2010-07-08 Thread Bryce Schober
It'd be nice if at least Nokia would release Qt 4.7 binary pre-releases for
Linux, like the other platforms. That would make the process of getting to
building Qt Creator a lot shorter.

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:14 AM, kai.koe...@nokia.com wrote:

 Bryce Schober wrote on Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:51 PM:
 
  Too bad we don't get master binary snapshots. Maybe I should repeat this
 mantra indefinitely. ;-)

 I think we got the point now :) We have some dedicated machines here for
 the nightly builds. They are however building from the 2.0 branch, because
 that's were the next release will come from (see e-mail from Eike a while
 ago). And we AFAIK don't have the resources to build two in configurations
 in parallel.

 Anyhow, out of curiosity: Why do you push so much for nightly builds, in
 contrast to compiling yourself? It's true that you might have to compile Qt
 yourself then once, but then updating / recompiling creator afterwards isn't
 really a big hassle.

 Kai
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Re: [Qt-creator] new C++ indenter: request for feedback

2010-07-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Yes, ~30 minutes.  That's without demos and examples; I've never built 
those and I don't know how much it would need with those.

This is on Linux.  I once tried on Windows, but after about two hours of 
compiling I gave up and aborted the build :-/

On 07/08/2010 10:32 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 30 Minutes? For all of Qt? What hardware are you building on? I have an 8
 way Xeon Nehalem using GCC with 16 threads and it takes at least an hour or
 so to build with WebKit disabled...

 Mike Jackson

 On 7/8/10 3:00 PM, in article
 aanlktilfeinaqca9_lm9iw5ezkepn_nyoysgeds7x...@mail.gmail.com, Coda
 Highland wrote:

 You can build QtWebKit that fast? *blink* I'd believe the 20 minute
 figure if you disable QtWebKit but I think Creator needs it.

 /s/ Adam

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de  wrote:
 Hours?  It only needs about 30 minutes to build on an (by now) old Core
 2 Duo.  I even got it to 20 minutes if I disable stuff I don't need.

 It's really fast and easy to build your own binaries.  I highly
 recommend it :)


 On 07/08/2010 09:30 PM, Coda Highland wrote:
 Seriously, if you've got reasonably modern hardware the whole rebuild
 process should only take a couple hours (unless you're building
 four-way universal binaries or something, but that's just silly if
 you're not intending to distribute).

 /s/ Adam

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:14 PM,kai.koe...@nokia.comwrote:
 Bryce Schober wrote on Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:51 PM:

 Too bad we don't get master binary snapshots. Maybe I should repeat this
 mantra indefinitely. ;-)

 I think we got the point now :) We have some dedicated machines here for
 the nightly builds. They are however building from the 2.0 branch, because
 that's were the next release will come from (see e-mail from Eike a while
 ago). And we AFAIK don't have the resources to build two in configurations
 in parallel.

 Anyhow, out of curiosity: Why do you push so much for nightly builds, in
 contrast to compiling yourself? It's true that you might have to compile 
 Qt
 yourself then once, but then updating / recompiling creator afterwards
 isn't really a big hassle.

 Kai
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[Qt-creator] new C++ indenter: request for feedback

2010-07-05 Thread Christian Kamm
Hi everyone,

a new indenter for the C++ editor has just been merged into master. Its main 
features are speed, the ability to use it without a TextEditor instance (like 
for refactoring) and the potential to be a lot smarter than the old one.

At the moment, however, it's still in its infancy. It knows some tricks that 
the old one didn't, but probably messes up cases that used to work fine before. 
To help stabilize it, I'd like to ask everyone to create tickets for any 
incorrect or odd intentation you encounter during your daily use.

(the component C++ support and assigned to me would be ideal)

Happy hacking,
Christian
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