Re: [QUAD-L]

2008-04-26 Thread Stacy Harim 
Some of us rely on that rebate check to pay the bills we can't afford.  I know 
I scratched the barrel just to buy a few groceries.  I have nothing until the 
3rd.  It's going to suck not going anywhere just for myself since I have to use 
the gas that I can get to go help my mom once a week.  
I live in a resort town and there is big talk about how we wont get as many 
tourists due to gas prices.  A whole town is going to suffer due to these 
prices.  There wont be as many jobs offered, our locals that rely on making 
money in the summer to substain them year round wont make as much money, and 
our local buisnesses will hurt from it.  Therefore, there wont be tax dollars 
going to our town and that reflects on a multitude of things.  
The picture is so much bigger than a rebate check.  The news station questioned 
people on what they will be doing with their checks.  Most said pay bills and 
the majority of the rest said put some in savings.  I know I just need a hair 
cut and the rest will be trying to pay some bills.
Stacy

- Original Message 
From: Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Quad-List 
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:28:11 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]


Man what are you people worried about?
In just a few weeks we'll be getting $300 checks to spend on the new and 
improved $4 gas and all our worries will end.
 
Mark Jackson
   RollinOn
 



From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 3:08 PM
To: Quad-List
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 


I totally agree with you on our need to eliminate our dependence on foreign 
oil.  I hear people complaining about the cost of gas, and they do nothing to 
cut their fuel consumption.  We had better wake-up to the fact that as long as 
we continue to use it like we do, the price of fuel will remain high.
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK,  I'll buy the fact that US demand is down ( although it's tough to tell 
driving anywhere anytime out on our streets) but keep in mind that there are a 
BILLION Chinese and another BILLION in India all starting to "really dig" this 
driving a car/truck thing.  The newly emancipated Russians are wanting to drive 
more as well.  We REALLY need to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.  
Eliminating dependence on ALL oil is the real answer.  I could live with an 
electric van easily, I'm never more that 10 or 15 miles from home anyway.  We 
really need to get serious.
AZDAVE





David K. Kelmer
Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:16:55 -0700
  I found this from an article in BusinessWeek to be interesting.  I listen to 
  the Ed Wallace show, Wheels, Saturdays from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. on 570 KLIF AM 
in 
  Dallas, and he is good about getting his facts right.
   
  
  CtrlAltDel aka Dave
  C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 
  
 
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm
 
2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices Are UP
 
Just so we can all get on the same page, here are the verifiable facts on 
oil 
  supplies, production, and gasoline demand. 
In January of this year, the U.S. used 4% less petroleum than we did a year 
  ago. (Oil demand was down 3.2% in February.) Furthermore, demand has been 
  falling slowly since July of last year. Ronald Bailey of Reason Online has 
  pointed out that worldwide production of oil has risen 2.5% in the first 
  quarter, while worldwide demand has grown by only 2%.  Production is expected 
  to increase by 3.3% in the second quarter, and by as much as 4.1% by the third
 
  quarter. The net result is that the U.S. daily buffer for oil production 
  against demand, which was a paltry 1.5 million barrels as recently as 2005, 
is 
  now up to 3 million barrels in excess capacity today." 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"The price of gas didn't go up during the last six weeks."REALLY?  
Where 
  are you, I'm moving.  Our gas is shooting up like a rocket.  I still drive 
  unnecessary trips - I guess 3.50 gas is STILL cheap to many.  Look at all the 
  mondo trucks still blowing us off the road.  At. $10/gal, I'll cut out the 
  fluff.
  AZDAVE
  

  

  
  -Original Message-
  From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 4:55 pm
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
  
   #AOLMsgPart_2_503899d9-6b6d-4c33-9d8a-280a7987ea48 DIV {margin:0px;} 
  
  But, there is a shortage in acres
 planted of rice. This year farmers are 
  growing corn and soy beans for the fuel. The price of gas didn't go up during 
  the last six weeks. The value of the dollar dropped. Can you say, INFLATION.
  You may wonder why this obscene tax was levied on those with fixed incomes? 
Why 
  has there been no attempt to cut spending of military dollars in parts of the 
  world that o

Re: [QUAD-L] Sun and Wind

2008-04-26 Thread airgantone 

 I believe after this US empire has fallen, the succeeding generations will get 
this thing right.? Using what the good Lord has given us for freethe SUN 
and WIND.


 


 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Danny Hearn' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'David K. Kelmer' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
'Quad-List' 
Sent: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 5:40 pm
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 
















I wonder how much solar panels are on 
e-bay?


I was watching the tonight show last night and this man 
built him a home out in the middle of New Mexico where sunshine is plentiful 
and 
he has no bills at all.


It's a shame when all the tech is here and we still ignore 
it!


All you need is sunshine!


?


?






Mark 
Jackson


?? RollinOn


?









From: Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:00 PM
To: Mark Jackson; 
'David K. Kelmer'; 'Quad-List'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 






You got that right Mark---I'm buying gas to get to those yard 
sales? LOL !??? 
Dan

Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



  
  

  
Man what are you people worried about?

  
In just a few weeks we'll be getting $300 checks to spend on the new and 
  improved $4 gas and all our worries will end.

  
?

  

  
Mark 
  Jackson

  
?? RollinOn

  
?




  

  


  From: David K. Kelmer 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 
  2008 3:08 PM
To: Quad-List
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
  



  


  
I totally agree with you on our need to eliminate our dependence on foreign 
  oil.? I hear people complaining about the cost of gas, and they do 
  nothing to cut their fuel consumption.? We had better wake-up to the fact 
  that as long as we continue to use it like we do, the price of fuel will 
  remain high.

  
?

  
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete -?32 Years 
  Post

  
Texas, 
  USA?

  

  


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  
OK,? I'll buy the fact that US 
demand is down ( although it's tough to tell driving anywhere anytime out 
on 
our streets) but keep in mind that there are a BILLION Chinese and another 
BILLION in India all starting to "really dig" this driving a car/truck 
thing.? The newly emancipated Russians are wanting to drive more as 
well.? We REALLY need to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.? 
Eliminating dependence on ALL oil is the real answer.? I could live 
with an electric van easily, I'm never more that 10 or 15 miles from home 
anyway.? We really need to get serious.
AZDAVE











David K. Kelmer
Sat, 26 
Apr 2008 08:16:55 -0700




  I found this from an article in BusinessWeek to be interesting.  I listen to 
  the Ed Wallace show, Wheels, Saturdays from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. on 570 KLIF AM 
in 
  Dallas, and he is good about getting his facts right.
   
  CtrlAltDel aka Dave
  C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 
  
 
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm
 
2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices Are UP
 
Just so we can all get on the same page, here are the verifiable facts on 
oil 
  supplies, production, and gasoline demand. 
In January of this year, the U.S. used 4%
 less petroleum than we did a year 
  ago. (Oil demand was down 3.2% in February.) Furthermore, demand has been 
  falling slowly since July of last year. Ronald Bailey of Reason Online has 
  pointed out that worldwide production of oil has risen 2.5% in the first 
  quarter, while worldwide demand has grown by only 2%.  Production is expected 
  to increase by 3.3% in the second quarter, and by as much as 4.1% by the 
third   
  quarter. The net result is that the U.S. daily buffer for oil production 
  against demand, which was a paltry 1.5 million barrels as recently as 2005, 
is 
  now up to 3 million barrels in excess capacity today." 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"The price of gas didn't go up during the last six weeks."REALLY?  
Where 
  are you, I'm moving.  Our gas is shooting up like a rocket.  I still drive 
  unnecessary trips - I guess 3.50 gas is STILL cheap to many.  Look at all the 
  mondo trucks still
 blowing us off the road.  At. $10/gal, I'll cut out the 
  fluff.
  AZDAVE
  

  

  
  -Original Message-
  From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 4:55 pm
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
  
   #AOLMsgPart_2_503899d9-6b6d-4c33-9d8a-280a7987ea48 DIV {margin:0px;} 
  
  But, there is a shortage in acres   planted of rice. This year farmers are 
  growing corn and soy beans for the fuel. The price of gas didn't go up during 
  the last six weeks. The value of the dollar dropped. Can you say, INFLATION.
  You may wonder why this obscene tax was levied on those with fixed incomes? 
Why 
  has there been no attempt to cut spending of military dollars in parts of the 
  world that our mili

RE: [QUAD-L]

2008-04-26 Thread Mark Jackson 
I wonder how much solar panels are on e-bay?
I was watching the tonight show last night and this man built him a home out
in the middle of New Mexico where sunshine is plentiful and he has no bills
at all.
It's a shame when all the tech is here and we still ignore it!
All you need is sunshine!
 
 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 


   _  

From: Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:00 PM
To: Mark Jackson; 'David K. Kelmer'; 'Quad-List'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 


You got that right Mark---I'm buying gas to get to those yard sales  LOL
!Dan

Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


Man what are you people worried about?
In just a few weeks we'll be getting $300 checks to spend on the new and
improved $4 gas and all our worries will end.
 
Mark Jackson
   RollinOn
 

   _  

From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 3:08 PM
To: Quad-List
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 


I totally agree with you on our need to eliminate our dependence on foreign
oil.  I hear people complaining about the cost of gas, and they do nothing
to cut their fuel consumption.  We had better wake-up to the fact that as
long as we continue to use it like we do, the price of fuel will remain
high.
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK,  I'll buy the fact that US demand is down ( although it's tough to tell
driving anywhere anytime out on our streets) but keep in mind that there are
a BILLION Chinese and another BILLION in India all starting to "really dig"
this driving a car/truck thing.  The newly emancipated Russians are wanting
to drive more as well.  We REALLY need to eliminate our dependence on
foreign oil.  Eliminating dependence on ALL oil is the real answer.  I could
live with an electric van easily, I'm never more that 10 or 15 miles from
home anyway.  We really need to get serious.
AZDAVE





David K. Kelmer
Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:16:55 -0700
  I found this from an article in BusinessWeek to be interesting.  I listen
to 
  the Ed Wallace show, Wheels, Saturdays from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. on 570 KLIF
AM in 
  Dallas, and he is good about getting his facts right.
   
  CtrlAltDel aka Dave
  C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 
  
 
HYPERLINK
"http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm";
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm
 
2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices Are UP
 
Just so we can all get on the same page, here are the verifiable facts
on oil 
  supplies, production, and gasoline demand. 
In January of this year, the U.S. used 4%

 less petroleum than we did a year 
  ago. (Oil demand was down 3.2% in February.) Furthermore, demand has been 
  falling slowly since July of last year. Ronald Bailey of Reason Online has

  pointed out that worldwide production of oil has risen 2.5% in the first 
  quarter, while worldwide demand has grown by only 2%.  Production is
expected 
  to increase by 3.3% in the second quarter, and by as much as 4.1% by the
third   
  quarter. The net result is that the U.S. daily buffer for oil production 
  against demand, which was a paltry 1.5 million barrels as recently as
2005, is 
  now up to 3 million barrels in excess capacity today." 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"The price of gas didn't go up during the last six weeks."REALLY?
Where 
  are you, I'm moving.  Our gas is shooting up like a rocket.  I still drive

  unnecessary trips - I guess 3.50 gas is STILL cheap to many.  Look at all
the 
  mondo trucks still

 blowing us off the road.  At. $10/gal, I'll cut out the 
  fluff.
  AZDAVE
  

  

  
  -Original Message-
  From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 4:55 pm
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
  
   #AOLMsgPart_2_503899d9-6b6d-4c33-9d8a-280a7987ea48 DIV {margin:0px;}

  But, there is a shortage in acres   planted of rice. This year farmers are

  growing corn and soy beans for the fuel. The price of gas didn't go up
during 
  the last six weeks. The value of the dollar dropped. Can you say,
INFLATION.
  You may wonder why this obscene tax was levied on those with fixed
incomes? Why 
  has there been no attempt to cut spending of military dollars in parts of
the 
  world that our military isn't even in? Why has welfare tripled this year.
Not 
  welfare for people, but welfare for corporations. We deposit billions

 of 
  dollars into numbered swiss bank accounts and it comes under "foreign
aid". 
  Will anyone ask these questions at a presidential debate?
  
  john
  
  
- Original Message 
  From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:46:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat

RE: [QUAD-L]

2008-04-26 Thread Danny Hearn 
You got that right Mark---I'm buying gas to get to those yard sales  LOL !  
  Dan

Mark Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Man what are you people worried 
about?
  In just a few weeks we'll be getting $300 checks to spend on the new and 
improved $4 gas and all our worries will end.
   
Mark Jackson
 RollinOn
   




-
  From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 3:08 PM
To: Quad-List
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 


  
  I totally agree with you on our need to eliminate our dependence on foreign 
oil.  I hear people complaining about the cost of gas, and they do nothing to 
cut their fuel consumption.  We had better wake-up to the fact that as long as 
we continue to use it like we do, the price of fuel will remain high.
   
  CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
  Texas, USA 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OK,  I'll buy the fact that US demand is down ( although it's tough to tell 
driving anywhere anytime out on our streets) but keep in mind that there are a 
BILLION Chinese and another BILLION in India all starting to "really dig" this 
driving a car/truck thing.  The newly emancipated Russians are wanting to drive 
more as well.  We REALLY need to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.  
Eliminating dependence on ALL oil is the real answer.  I could live with an 
electric van easily, I'm never more that 10 or 15 miles from home anyway.  We 
really need to get serious.
AZDAVE


  
  David K. Kelmer
Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:16:55 -0700

  
  I found this from an article in BusinessWeek to be interesting.  I listen to 
  the Ed Wallace show, Wheels, Saturdays from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. on 570 KLIF AM 
in 
  Dallas, and he is good about getting his facts right.
   
  CtrlAltDel aka Dave
  C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 
  
 
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm
 
2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices Are UP
 
Just so we can all get on the same page, here are the verifiable facts on 
oil 
  supplies, production, and gasoline demand. 
In January of this year, the U.S. used 4% less petroleum than we did a year 
  ago. (Oil demand was down 3.2% in February.) Furthermore, demand has been 
  falling slowly since July of last year. Ronald Bailey of Reason Online has 
  pointed out that worldwide production of oil has risen 2.5% in the first 
  quarter, while worldwide demand has grown by only 2%.  Production is expected 
  to increase by 3.3% in the second quarter, and by as much as 4.1% by the 
third   
  quarter. The net result is that the U.S. daily buffer for oil production 
  against demand, which was a paltry 1.5 million barrels as recently as 2005, 
is 
  now up to 3 million barrels in excess capacity today." 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"The price of gas didn't go up during the last six weeks."REALLY?  
Where 
  are you, I'm moving.  Our gas is shooting up like a rocket.  I still drive 
  unnecessary trips - I guess 3.50 gas is STILL cheap to many.  Look at all the 
  mondo trucks still blowing us off the road.  At. $10/gal, I'll cut out the 
  fluff.
  AZDAVE
  

  

  
  -Original Message-
  From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 4:55 pm
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
  
   #AOLMsgPart_2_503899d9-6b6d-4c33-9d8a-280a7987ea48 DIV {margin:0px;} 
  
  But, there is a shortage in acres   planted of rice. This year farmers are 
  growing corn and soy beans for the fuel. The price of gas didn't go up during 
  the last six weeks. The value of the dollar dropped. Can you say, INFLATION.
  You may wonder why this obscene tax was levied on those with fixed incomes? 
Why 
  has there been no attempt to cut spending of military dollars in parts of the 
  world that our military isn't even in? Why has welfare tripled this year. Not 
  welfare for people, but welfare for corporations. We deposit billions of 
  dollars into numbered swiss bank accounts and it comes under "foreign aid". 
  Will anyone ask these questions at a presidential debate?
  
  john
  
  
- Original Message 
  From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:46:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
  
  That could easily be the way to clear the shelves of stale merchandise 
and 
  receive maximum dollars.
The the shelves can be stocked with new/fresh rice grown in the USA, eh?
Best Wishes
 
  In a message dated 4/25/2008 2:24:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
  PROTECTED] writes:
  Somebody in our government needs to make a public announcement that we do 
  not have a shortage of rice in this country.  The recent media coverage has 
  created a bit of a panic

[QUAD-L] IRS Rebate check

2008-04-26 Thread wheelchair 


 
The  American Way! 
 
 
 
 
 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
How  to use Your IRS Rebate check...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
As  you may have heard, each of us will be getting a tax rebate  check to 
stimulate the economy. 
 
If  we spend that money at Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China. If we  
spend it on gasoline it will go to the Arabs. If we purchase a  computer it 
will go to India. If we purchase fruits and vegetables  it will go to Mexico, 
Honduras and Guatemala. If we purchase a good  car it will go to Japan. If we 
purchase useless stuff it will  go to Taiwan and none of it will help the 
American economy. 
 
We  need to keep that money here in America. The only way to keep that money  
here at home is to spend it at yard  sales,  since those are the only 
businesses still in the  US!











 







 

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RE: [QUAD-L]

2008-04-26 Thread Mark Jackson 
Man what are you people worried about?

In just a few weeks we'll be getting $300 checks to spend on the new and
improved $4 gas and all our worries will end.

 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 


   _  

From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 3:08 PM
To: Quad-List
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 


I totally agree with you on our need to eliminate our dependence on foreign
oil.  I hear people complaining about the cost of gas, and they do nothing
to cut their fuel consumption.  We had better wake-up to the fact that as
long as we continue to use it like we do, the price of fuel will remain
high.
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK,  I'll buy the fact that US demand is down ( although it's tough to tell
driving anywhere anytime out on our streets) but keep in mind that there are
a BILLION Chinese and another BILLION in India all starting to "really dig"
this driving a car/truck thing.  The newly emancipated Russians are wanting
to drive more as well.  We REALLY need to eliminate our dependence on
foreign oil.  Eliminating dependence on ALL oil is the real answer.  I could
live with an electric van easily, I'm never more that 10 or 15 miles from
home anyway.  We really need to get serious.
AZDAVE





David K. Kelmer
Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:16:55 -0700
  I found this from an article in BusinessWeek to be interesting.  I listen
to 
  the Ed Wallace show, Wheels, Saturdays from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. on 570 KLIF
AM in 
  Dallas, and he is good about getting his facts right.
   

  
  CtrlAltDel aka Dave
  C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 
  
 
HYPERLINK
"http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm";
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm
 
2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices Are UP
 
Just so we can all get on the same page, here are the verifiable facts
on oil 
  supplies, production, and gasoline demand. 
In January of this year, the U.S. used 4% less petroleum than we did a
year 
  ago. (Oil demand was down 3.2% in February.) Furthermore, demand has been 
  falling slowly since July of last year. Ronald Bailey of Reason Online has

  pointed out that worldwide production of oil has risen 2.5% in the first 
  quarter, while worldwide demand has grown by only 2%.  Production is
expected 
  to increase by 3.3% in the second quarter, and by as much as 4.1% by the
third

 
  quarter. The net result is that the U.S. daily buffer for oil production 
  against demand, which was a paltry 1.5 million barrels as recently as
2005, is 
  now up to 3 million barrels in excess capacity today." 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"The price of gas didn't go up during the last six weeks."REALLY?
Where 
  are you, I'm moving.  Our gas is shooting up like a rocket.  I still drive

  unnecessary trips - I guess 3.50 gas is STILL cheap to many.  Look at all
the 
  mondo trucks still blowing us off the road.  At. $10/gal, I'll cut out the

  fluff.
  AZDAVE
  

  

  
  -Original Message-
  From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 4:55 pm
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
  
   #AOLMsgPart_2_503899d9-6b6d-4c33-9d8a-280a7987ea48 DIV {margin:0px;}

  But, there is a shortage in acres

 planted of rice. This year farmers are 
  growing corn and soy beans for the fuel. The price of gas didn't go up
during 
  the last six weeks. The value of the dollar dropped. Can you say,
INFLATION.
  You may wonder why this obscene tax was levied on those with fixed
incomes? Why 
  has there been no attempt to cut spending of military dollars in parts of
the 
  world that our military isn't even in? Why has welfare tripled this year.
Not 
  welfare for people, but welfare for corporations. We deposit billions of 
  dollars into numbered swiss bank accounts and it comes under "foreign
aid". 
  Will anyone ask these questions at a presidential debate?
  
  john
  
  
- Original Message 
  From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:46:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
  
   

 That could easily be the way to clear the shelves of stale merchandise and 
  receive maximum dollars.
The the shelves can be stocked with new/fresh rice grown in the USA, eh?
Best Wishes
 
  In a message dated 4/25/2008 2:24:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL 
  PROTECTED] writes:
  Somebody in our government needs to make a public announcement that we
do 
  not have a shortage of rice in this country.  The recent media coverage
has 
  created a bit of a panic and now Rice is flying off the shelves -- not to 
  mention that some stores are elevating the price to take advantage of the 
  hysteria.  B

Re: [QUAD-L]

2008-04-26 Thread David K. Kelmer 
I totally agree with you on our need to eliminate our dependence on foreign 
oil.  I hear people complaining about the cost of gas, and they do nothing to 
cut their fuel consumption.  We had better wake-up to the fact that as long as 
we continue to use it like we do, the price of fuel will remain high.
   
  CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
  Texas, USA 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OK,  I'll buy the fact that US demand is down ( although it's tough to tell 
driving anywhere anytime out on our streets) but keep in mind that there are a 
BILLION Chinese and another BILLION in India all starting to "really dig" this 
driving a car/truck thing.  The newly emancipated Russians are wanting to drive 
more as well.  We REALLY need to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.  
Eliminating dependence on ALL oil is the real answer.  I could live with an 
electric van easily, I'm never more that 10 or 15 miles from home anyway.  We 
really need to get serious.
AZDAVE


  
  David K. Kelmer
Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:16:55 -0700

  
  I found this from an article in BusinessWeek to be interesting.  I listen to 
  the Ed Wallace show, Wheels, Saturdays from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. on 570 KLIF AM 
in 
  Dallas, and he is good about getting his facts right.
 
  CtrlAltDel aka Dave
  C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 
  
 
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm
 
2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices Are UP
 
Just so we can all get on the same page, here are the verifiable facts on 
oil 
  supplies, production, and gasoline demand. 
In January of this year, the U.S. used 4% less petroleum than we did a year 
  ago. (Oil demand was down 3.2% in February.) Furthermore, demand has been 
  falling slowly since July of last year. Ronald Bailey of Reason Online has 
  pointed out that worldwide production of oil has risen 2.5% in the first 
  quarter, while worldwide demand has grown by only 2%.  Production is expected 
  to increase by 3.3% in the second quarter, and by as much as 4.1% by the 
third 
  quarter. The net result is that the U.S. daily buffer for oil production 
  against demand, which was a paltry 1.5 million barrels as recently as 2005, 
is 
  now up to 3 million barrels in excess capacity today." 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"The price of gas didn't go up during the last six weeks."REALLY?  
Where 
  are you, I'm moving.  Our gas is shooting up like a rocket.  I still drive 
  unnecessary trips - I guess 3.50 gas is STILL cheap to many.  Look at all the 
  mondo trucks still blowing us off the road.  At. $10/gal, I'll cut out the 
  fluff.
  AZDAVE
  

  

  
  -Original Message-
  From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 4:55 pm
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
  
   #AOLMsgPart_2_503899d9-6b6d-4c33-9d8a-280a7987ea48 DIV {margin:0px;} 
  
  But, there is a shortage in acres planted of rice. This year farmers are 
  growing corn and soy beans for the fuel. The price of gas didn't go up during 
  the last six weeks. The value of the dollar dropped. Can you say, INFLATION.
  You may wonder why this obscene tax was levied on those with fixed incomes? 
Why 
  has there been no attempt to cut spending of military dollars in parts of the 
  world that our military isn't even in? Why has welfare tripled this year. Not 
  welfare for people, but welfare for corporations. We deposit billions of 
  dollars into numbered swiss bank accounts and it comes under "foreign aid". 
  Will anyone ask these questions at a presidential debate?
  
  john
  
  
- Original Message 
  From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:46:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
  
That could easily be the way to clear the shelves of stale merchandise and 
  receive maximum dollars.
The the shelves can be stocked with new/fresh rice grown in the USA, eh?
Best Wishes
 
  In a message dated 4/25/2008 2:24:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
  PROTECTED] writes:
  Somebody in our government needs to make a public announcement that we do 
  not have a shortage of rice in this country.  The recent media coverage has 
  created a bit of a panic and now Rice is flying off the shelves -- not to 
  mention that some stores are elevating the price to take advantage of the 
  hysteria.  BJ's (a store like Sam's Club) was completely sold out this 
  afternoon.
According to the president of the rice growers Association, the silos are 
  full and there is no shortage here.  We really need leadership, and not 
  tomorrow.
  Quadius
  
  
On 4/25/08, Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have you watched 
  the news?  It is.  Sams, Cosco, etc are limit

Re: [QUAD-L] tat

2008-04-26 Thread Quadius 
Yes, I would think $.25 in the last two weeks would constitute a gas going
up in price.

John, what you're stating here is circular logic.  They keep telling you
it's the devaluation of the dollar that's causing the gas to rise and while
that is partially true, it is not the entire story.  Like someone else
mentioned, there is increased demand in China and India, not to mention
Russia and the other Eastern European countries.  The oil companies in the
United States have not invested in new refineries since the 70s, despite the
record-breaking profits.  Additionally the oil companies seem to be free to
raise the price just based on the current cost of oil per a what many people
don't know is it usually takes two to three months for the price of oil to
affect the actual price of gas.  This is nothing more than gouging.

If our government wasn't so keen on providing corporate welfare and
protection to these oil companies, we wouldn't have the problems we
currently do.  However you look at it, we don't have it as bad as Canada and
Europe.  I believe I saw Germany was paying roughly six dollars a gallon the
other day.

Quadius


On 4/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "The price of gas didn't go up during the last six weeks."REALLY?
> Where are you, I'm moving.  Our gas is shooting up like a rocket.  I still
> drive unnecessary trips - I guess 3.50 gas is STILL cheap to many.  Look at
> all the mondo trucks still blowing us off the road.  At. $10/gal, I'll cut
> out the fluff.
> AZDAVE
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 4:55 pm
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
>
>  But, there is a shortage in acres planted of rice. This year farmers are
> growing corn and soy beans for the fuel. The price of gas didn't go up
> during the last six weeks. The value of the dollar dropped. Can you say,
> INFLATION.
> You may wonder why this obscene tax was levied on those with fixed
> incomes? Why has there been no attempt to cut spending of military dollars
> in parts of the world that our military isn't even in? Why has welfare
> tripled this year. Not welfare for people, but welfare for corporations. We
> deposit billions of dollars into numbered swiss bank accounts and it comes
> under "foreign aid". Will anyone ask these questions at a presidential
> debate?
>
> john
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:46:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat
>
> That could easily be the way to clear the shelves of stale merchandise and
> receive maximum dollars.
> The the shelves can be stocked with new/fresh rice grown in the USA, eh?
> Best Wishes
>
>  In a message dated 4/25/2008 2:24:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Somebody in our government needs to make a public announcement that we do
> not have a shortage of rice in this country.  The recent media coverage has
> created a bit of a panic and now Rice is flying off the shelves -- not to
> mention that some stores are elevating the price to take advantage of the
> hysteria.  BJ's (a store like Sam's Club) was completely sold out this
> afternoon.
> According to the president of the rice growers Association, the silos are
> full and there is no shortage here.  We really need leadership, and not
> tomorrow.
> Quadius
>
>
> On 4/25/08, Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Have you watched the news?  It is.  Sams, Cosco, etc are limiting how
> > much rice you can buy b/c of food shortages resulting from rising food
> > costs.  Ethanol is making corn, flour, wheat, rice, etc more expensive and
> > then it transfers over to dairy and meats because those animals eat feed.
> > Can you imagine when more people are driving cars fueled by ethanol where we
> > will be with groceries.
> >
> > Stacy
> >
> >
>
>
>
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[QUAD-L]

2008-04-26 Thread oconnelldb 
OK,? I'll buy the fact that US demand is down ( although it's tough to tell 
driving anywhere anytime out on our streets) but keep in mind that there are a 
BILLION Chinese and another BILLION in India all starting to "really dig" this 
driving a car/truck thing.? The newly emancipated Russians are wanting to drive 
more as well.? We REALLY need to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.? 
Eliminating dependence on ALL oil is the real answer.? I could live with an 
electric van easily, I'm never more that 10 or 15 miles from home anyway.? We 
really need to get serious.
AZDAVE











David K. Kelmer

Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:16:55 -0700












  I found this from an article in BusinessWeek to be interesting.  I listen to 
the Ed Wallace show, Wheels, Saturdays from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. on 570 KLIF AM in 
Dallas, and he is good about getting his facts right.
   
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
  Texas, USA 

   
  http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm
   
  2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices Are UP
   
  Just so we can all get on the same page, here are the verifiable facts on oil 
supplies, production, and gasoline demand. 
  In January of this year, the U.S. used 4% less petroleum than we did a year 
ago. (Oil demand was down 3.2% in February.) Furthermore, demand has been 
falling slowly since July of last year. Ronald Bailey of Reason Online has 
pointed out that worldwide production of oil has risen 2.5% in the first 
quarter, while worldwide demand has grown by only 2%.  Production is expected 
to increase by 3.3% in the second quarter, and by as much as 4.1% by the third 
quarter. The net result is that the U.S. daily buffer for oil production 
against demand, which was a paltry 1.5 million barrels as recently as 2005, is 
now up to 3 million barrels in excess capacity today." 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  "The price of gas didn't go up during the last six weeks."REALLY?  Where 
are you, I'm moving.  Our gas is shooting up like a rocket.  I still drive 
unnecessary trips - I guess 3.50 gas is STILL cheap to many.  Look at all the 
mondo trucks still blowing us off the road.  At. $10/gal, I'll cut out the 
fluff.
AZDAVE

  

  

-Original Message-
From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat

 #AOLMsgPart_2_503899d9-6b6d-4c33-9d8a-280a7987ea48 DIV {margin:0px;}   
But, there is a shortage in acres planted of rice. This year farmers are 
growing corn and soy beans for the fuel. The price of gas didn't go up during 
the last six weeks. The value of the dollar dropped. Can you say, INFLATION.
You may wonder why this obscene tax was levied on those with fixed incomes? Why 
has there been no attempt to cut spending of military dollars in parts of the 
world that our military isn't even in? Why has welfare tripled this year. Not 
welfare for people, but welfare for corporations. We deposit billions of 
dollars into numbered swiss bank accounts and it comes under "foreign aid". 
Will anyone ask these questions at a presidential debate?

john


  - Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:46:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat

  That could easily be the way to clear the shelves of stale merchandise and 
receive maximum dollars.
  The the shelves can be stocked with new/fresh rice grown in the USA, eh?
  Best Wishes
   
In a message dated 4/25/2008 2:24:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Somebody in our government needs to make a public announcement that we do 
not have a shortage of rice in this country.  The recent media coverage has 
created a bit of a panic and now Rice is flying off the shelves -- not to 
mention that some stores are elevating the price to take advantage of the 
hysteria.  BJ's (a store like Sam's Club) was completely sold out this 
afternoon.
  According to the president of the rice growers Association, the silos are 
full and there is no shortage here.  We really need leadership, and not 
tomorrow.
Quadius


  On 4/25/08, Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have you watched 
the news?  It is.  Sams, Cosco, etc are limiting how much rice you can buy b/c 
of food shortages resulting from rising food costs.  Ethanol is making corn, 
flour, wheat, rice, etc more expensive and then it transfers over to dairy and 
meats because those animals eat feed.  Can you imagine when more people are 
driving cars fueled by ethanol where we will be with groceries.
   
  Stacy
 








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Re: [QUAD-L] tat

2008-04-26 Thread David K. Kelmer 
  I found this from an article in BusinessWeek to be interesting.  I listen to 
the Ed Wallace show, Wheels, Saturdays from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. on 570 KLIF AM in 
Dallas, and he is good about getting his facts right.
   
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
  Texas, USA 

   
  http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm
   
  2. Demand Is DOWN, Yet Prices Are UP
   
  Just so we can all get on the same page, here are the verifiable facts on oil 
supplies, production, and gasoline demand. 
  In January of this year, the U.S. used 4% less petroleum than we did a year 
ago. (Oil demand was down 3.2% in February.) Furthermore, demand has been 
falling slowly since July of last year. Ronald Bailey of Reason Online has 
pointed out that worldwide production of oil has risen 2.5% in the first 
quarter, while worldwide demand has grown by only 2%.  Production is expected 
to increase by 3.3% in the second quarter, and by as much as 4.1% by the third 
quarter. The net result is that the U.S. daily buffer for oil production 
against demand, which was a paltry 1.5 million barrels as recently as 2005, is 
now up to 3 million barrels in excess capacity today." 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  "The price of gas didn't go up during the last six weeks."REALLY?  Where 
are you, I'm moving.  Our gas is shooting up like a rocket.  I still drive 
unnecessary trips - I guess 3.50 gas is STILL cheap to many.  Look at all the 
mondo trucks still blowing us off the road.  At. $10/gal, I'll cut out the 
fluff.
AZDAVE

  

  

-Original Message-
From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat

 #AOLMsgPart_2_503899d9-6b6d-4c33-9d8a-280a7987ea48 DIV {margin:0px;}   
But, there is a shortage in acres planted of rice. This year farmers are 
growing corn and soy beans for the fuel. The price of gas didn't go up during 
the last six weeks. The value of the dollar dropped. Can you say, INFLATION.
You may wonder why this obscene tax was levied on those with fixed incomes? Why 
has there been no attempt to cut spending of military dollars in parts of the 
world that our military isn't even in? Why has welfare tripled this year. Not 
welfare for people, but welfare for corporations. We deposit billions of 
dollars into numbered swiss bank accounts and it comes under "foreign aid". 
Will anyone ask these questions at a presidential debate?

john


  - Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:46:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] tat

  That could easily be the way to clear the shelves of stale merchandise and 
receive maximum dollars.
  The the shelves can be stocked with new/fresh rice grown in the USA, eh?
  Best Wishes
   
In a message dated 4/25/2008 2:24:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Somebody in our government needs to make a public announcement that we do 
not have a shortage of rice in this country.  The recent media coverage has 
created a bit of a panic and now Rice is flying off the shelves -- not to 
mention that some stores are elevating the price to take advantage of the 
hysteria.  BJ's (a store like Sam's Club) was completely sold out this 
afternoon.
  According to the president of the rice growers Association, the silos are 
full and there is no shortage here.  We really need leadership, and not 
tomorrow.
Quadius


  On 4/25/08, Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have you watched 
the news?  It is.  Sams, Cosco, etc are limiting how much rice you can buy b/c 
of food shortages resulting from rising food costs.  Ethanol is making corn, 
flour, wheat, rice, etc more expensive and then it transfers over to dairy and 
meats because those animals eat feed.  Can you imagine when more people are 
driving cars fueled by ethanol where we will be with groceries.
   
  Stacy
 








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