Re: [QUAD-L] Gas for $1.25 gallon

2008-05-14 Thread oconnelldb

 wow drinkable alcohol for 1.25 / gal.
screw the car, let's party.
azdave


 


 

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[QUAD-L] Gas for $1.25 gallon

2008-05-14 Thread Mark Jackson
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Re: [QUAD-L] Diet Suggestions for gut? (Long)

2008-05-14 Thread Quadius
If you're staying below 2000 and however in around 1100, you think you're
doing pretty well.  Just make sure you're taking a fair amount of
supplements, although many people will say that supplements have not been
proven to have any lasting effect.  I, however, have been taking calcium
supplements for the last six years and my bone density increased by 5%.

I must also confess that I have reduced my intake of carbonated drinks down
to one per day, but I had increased my bone density while drinking two or
three a day.

I have found that if I eat Jell-O at night instead of eating heavier items
(I know my eating schedules really screwed up, but what's a guy to do when
they want to remain as independent as possible?)  I have found this reduces
my caloric intake considerably.  My problem is I tend to lose weight from my
legs and arms instead of from my quad belly.  When I first started this list
I used to be proud of the fact I didn't have a quad belly, but that has
changed considerably over the last seven years.  I'm not really fat, but it
definitely shows up sometimes.

I have found it is important to maintain a good diet for the sake of my skin
integrity.  Sometimes a few extra pounds is something I now put up with
knowing that my risk of getting a pressure ulcer is diminished.
Sorry for the jumbling mess, but I haven't been able to concentrate too well
today.
Quadius


On 5/14/08, Tod E. Santee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Q Friends,
>
> Has anybody found any reasonably successful regimen for weight-loss --
> particularly for the hip, waist and Q-gut area?
>
> Since entering the hospital in August (2007) I've been on a relatively
> high-protein diet that was recommended for better wound healing with regard
> to deep muscle tissue.  Most of the fats are good fats like those in nuts,
> fish, etc. (But I also know a fat is a fat!  So it's 9 cal/gram, where carbs
> and proteins are 4 cal/gram.)
>
> The reason I'm asking is I just tried wearing jeans for the first time
> since August.  I went into the hospital waiting 147 lbs. and I'd say I'm
> currently 160 lbs.  The same jeans that fit well then, a 35" waist, are now
> so tight at the hip and waist that I can only button them lying flat on my
> back.  And then I can sit because, as most of you know, the ole Q-gut gets
> bigger when we do that.
>
> I know I'm going to have to start working out more.  That much is a
> no-brainer.  I don't do much "structured" exercise now but I know I do burn
> a fair bit just trying to function from day to day in bed.  Since the
> beginning, I don't "just lay there."  I'm always working on things, moving
> and lifting things like heavy notebooks while I also work on lifting and
> balancing myself in a low air loss bed.  But FINALLY this week I'm just
> beginning to get out of bed for long enough to start going to a gym where I
> can use weights.
>
> I just got two new pairs of pants today.  A 37" waist now... I haven't
> tried them all and yet but I'm sure they will still be tight, but at least
> manageable until I lose some of this excess.
>
> So, if anybody has any ideas on diets and/or work out regimens that have
> worked for losing weight in the gut, butt and hips, I'd love to hear your
> stories.
>
> My diet is pretty consistent.
>
> Breakfast: 8 oz. low-fat yogurt, a protein bar (22g protein), prunes, and
> dry Grape Nuts cereal
>
> Lunch: Lean ham sandwich with low-fat cheese and whole grain
> bread.  Occasionally, instead of the sandwich its the lowest fat "Lean
> Pocket" I can find.
>
> Dinner: Skinless boneless chicken (steamed) with plenty of "quality"
> vegetables like legumes (black or pinto beans and peas), and home grown
> romaine lettuce, spinach, broccoli or Swiss chard.
>
> My drinks are a combination of a total 32 oz. mixtures of:
> A. low-carb cranberry juice with Diet Mountain Dew or
> B. cranberry with Minute Maid Light juice (5 cal., 0 fat).
>(Usually one 16 oz. cup of each.)
>
> I also drink 2 cups of weak coffee with no-fat creamer in the morning and 2
> cups of weak tea with 1/2 tsp. sugar in the evening.
>
> And finally, approximately 16-24 oz. plain old water.
>
> So, with breakfast, lunch and all my drinks I have 1100 calories and 115%
> RDA proteins (based on a 2000 cal diet -- my nutrition doc thought I still
> needed more protein but I just couldn't pack it in.).  But now that my
> wounds are almost completely healed I can probably cut back on the
> high-protein "extras."  That should be enough to cut my calorie intake down
> below 2000 per day.
>
> Finally, on a slightly separate note... I'm wondering does anybody here
> ever watch NBC's "The Biggest Loser" ??  I'm not a big fan, in fact I only
> watch it 1-2 times per season.  I wonder how those trainers would work with
> some of us?  Would they be as successful?  How much should we teach them
> versus them teaching us?  Just things I was thinking about as I wrote this.
>
> Looking forward to any suggestions!
>
> Best regards, All,
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Diet Suggestions for gut? (Long)

2008-05-14 Thread Gary Rock
  Hello Tod,
  Sounds like you doing everything right. I have the same problem it's very 
tough to exercise when you can't walk or run.
  One thought on your diet though. I'm not sure of how much diet Mountain Dew 
you have each day. But one thing I found out is most diet drinks contain ( 
Phosphoric Acid ) this has been proven to delete bone mass. I'm sure a little 
bit would not hurt normal people that are active and walking.
  .
  I was drinking diet products for years until last year I found out that my 
bone density was very bad and I had osteoporosis. I'm not sure of the reason it 
couldn't just be from being inactive. But now I'm on vitamin D treatments and 
in a Stander three times a week to counteract the effects.
  Best regards, Rocky
  .
  C5/5 years post


"Tod E. Santee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Dear Q Friends,

Has anybody found any reasonably successful regimen for weight-loss -- 
particularly for the hip, waist and Q-gut area?

Since entering the hospital in August (2007) I've been on a relatively 
high-protein diet that was recommended for better wound healing with regard to 
deep muscle tissue. Most of the fats are good fats like those in nuts, fish, 
etc. (But I also know a fat is a fat! So it's 9 cal/gram, where carbs and 
proteins are 4 cal/gram.)

The reason I'm asking is I just tried wearing jeans for the first time since 
August. I went into the hospital waiting 147 lbs. and I'd say I'm currently 160 
lbs. The same jeans that fit well then, a 35" waist, are now so tight at the 
hip and waist that I can only button them lying flat on my back. And then I can 
sit because, as most of you know, the ole Q-gut gets bigger when we do that.

I know I'm going to have to start working out more. That much is a no-brainer. 
I don't do much "structured" exercise now but I know I do burn a fair bit just 
trying to function from day to day in bed. Since the beginning, I don't "just 
lay there." I'm always working on things, moving and lifting things like heavy 
notebooks while I also work on lifting and balancing myself in a low air loss 
bed. But FINALLY this week I'm just beginning to get out of bed for long enough 
to start going to a gym where I can use weights.

I just got two new pairs of pants today. A 37" waist now... I haven't tried 
them all and yet but I'm sure they will still be tight, but at least manageable 
until I lose some of this excess.

So, if anybody has any ideas on diets and/or work out regimens that have worked 
for losing weight in the gut, butt and hips, I'd love to hear your stories.

My diet is pretty consistent.

Breakfast: 8 oz. low-fat yogurt, a protein bar (22g protein), prunes, and dry 
Grape Nuts cereal

Lunch: Lean ham sandwich with low-fat cheese and whole grain bread. 
Occasionally, instead of the sandwich its the lowest fat "Lean Pocket" I can 
find.

Dinner: Skinless boneless chicken (steamed) with plenty of "quality" vegetables 
like legumes (black or pinto beans and peas), and home grown romaine lettuce, 
spinach, broccoli or Swiss chard.

My drinks are a combination of a total 32 oz. mixtures of:
A. low-carb cranberry juice with Diet Mountain Dew or
B. cranberry with Minute Maid Light juice (5 cal., 0 fat).
(Usually one 16 oz. cup of each.)

I also drink 2 cups of weak coffee with no-fat creamer in the morning and 2 
cups of weak tea with 1/2 tsp. sugar in the evening.

And finally, approximately 16-24 oz. plain old water.

So, with breakfast, lunch and all my drinks I have 1100 calories and 115% RDA 
proteins (based on a 2000 cal diet -- my nutrition doc thought I still needed 
more protein but I just couldn't pack it in.). But now that my wounds are 
almost completely healed I can probably cut back on the high-protein "extras." 
That should be enough to cut my calorie intake down below 2000 per day.

Finally, on a slightly separate note... I'm wondering does anybody here ever 
watch NBC's "The Biggest Loser" ?? I'm not a big fan, in fact I only watch it 
1-2 times per season. I wonder how those trainers would work with some of us? 
Would they be as successful? How much should we teach them versus them teaching 
us? Just things I was thinking about as I wrote this.

Looking forward to any suggestions!

Best regards, All,
--Tod




Re: [QUAD-L] dave k.

2008-05-14 Thread John S.
Great to have you back Dave. 

john


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From: David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: William Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Quad-List 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:05:34 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] dave k.


Hey, folks.  I wanted to thank all of you for your kind words and for your 
prayers.  I got home Thursday but my DSL was down until today, Tuesday 13th!  I 
am feeling great and am ready to get back to a 'normal' quad life.  I love you 
all and am proud to have you as my friends!
 
With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 


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Re: [QUAD-L] The Tax Rebates vs Consumer Confidence

2008-05-14 Thread John S.
Makes you wonder who he is going to give pardons to?

john

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Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:45:22 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] The Tax Rebates vs Consumer Confidence


Can you be bribed and robbed at the same time?
 
Mark



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:17 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] The Tax Rebates vs Consumer Confidence

I feel like I'm being bribed because of the lack in consumer confidence in the 
current administration over the last 8 years.  What a better way to smooth 
things over with a little bribe.  Maybe we will forget all that has happened.  
Just wondered if it was fickle me, or if anyone else felt bribed, lol.
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 5/12/2008 8:01:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 5/12/2008 7:51:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
What is more important. In accepting the check and cashing it, do you feel more 
confident in your government and its leaders?  Do you think the checks are real 
the real thing or we are paying up the butt during the next administration?
 
Best Wishes
W, 
I don't know what you mean by real, but my other half's opinion is that were 
just spending our grand children's money. I personally do not feel it's going 
to help our economy. John has a good idea to hold on to it for gas.
Dianna
 





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[QUAD-L] Diet Suggestions for gut? (Long)

2008-05-14 Thread Tod E. Santee
Dear Q Friends,

Has anybody found any reasonably successful regimen for weight-loss -- 
particularly for the hip, waist and Q-gut area?

Since entering the hospital in August (2007) I've been on a relatively 
high-protein diet that was recommended for better wound healing with regard to 
deep muscle tissue.  Most of the fats are good fats like those in nuts, fish, 
etc. (But I also know a fat is a fat!  So it's 9 cal/gram, where carbs and 
proteins are 4 cal/gram.)

The reason I'm asking is I just tried wearing jeans for the first time since 
August.  I went into the hospital waiting 147 lbs. and I'd say I'm currently 
160 lbs.  The same jeans that fit well then, a 35" waist, are now so tight at 
the hip and waist that I can only button them lying flat on my back.  And then 
I can sit because, as most of you know, the ole Q-gut gets bigger when we do 
that.

I know I'm going to have to start working out more.  That much is a no-brainer. 
 I don't do much "structured" exercise now but I know I do burn a fair bit just 
trying to function from day to day in bed.  Since the beginning, I don't "just 
lay there."  I'm always working on things, moving and lifting things like heavy 
notebooks while I also work on lifting and balancing myself in a low air loss 
bed.  But FINALLY this week I'm just beginning to get out of bed for long 
enough to start going to a gym where I can use weights.

I just got two new pairs of pants today.  A 37" waist now... I haven't tried 
them all and yet but I'm sure they will still be tight, but at least manageable 
until I lose some of this excess.

So, if anybody has any ideas on diets and/or work out regimens that have worked 
for losing weight in the gut, butt and hips, I'd love to hear your stories.

My diet is pretty consistent.

Breakfast: 8 oz. low-fat yogurt, a protein bar (22g protein), prunes, and dry 
Grape Nuts cereal

Lunch: Lean ham sandwich with low-fat cheese and whole grain bread.  
Occasionally, instead of the sandwich its the lowest fat "Lean Pocket" I can 
find.

Dinner: Skinless boneless chicken (steamed) with plenty of "quality" vegetables 
like legumes (black or pinto beans and peas), and home grown romaine lettuce, 
spinach, broccoli or Swiss chard.

My drinks are a combination of a total 32 oz. mixtures of:
  A. low-carb cranberry juice with Diet Mountain Dew or
  B. cranberry with Minute Maid Light juice (5 cal., 0 fat).
(Usually one 16 oz. cup of each.)

I also drink 2 cups of weak coffee with no-fat creamer in the morning and 2 
cups of weak tea with 1/2 tsp. sugar in the evening.

And finally, approximately 16-24 oz. plain old water.

So, with breakfast, lunch and all my drinks I have 1100 calories and 115% RDA 
proteins (based on a 2000 cal diet -- my nutrition doc thought I still needed 
more protein but I just couldn't pack it in.).  But now that my wounds are 
almost completely healed I can probably cut back on the high-protein "extras."  
That should be enough to cut my calorie intake down below 2000 per day.

Finally, on a slightly separate note... I'm wondering does anybody here ever 
watch NBC's "The Biggest Loser" ??  I'm not a big fan, in fact I only watch it 
1-2 times per season.  I wonder how those trainers would work with some of us?  
Would they be as successful?  How much should we teach them versus them 
teaching us?  Just things I was thinking about as I wrote this.

Looking forward to any suggestions!

Best regards, All,
--Tod



RE: [QUAD-L] dave k.

2008-05-14 Thread Mark Jackson
Hey Dave,
It's good to see you're back home and feeling great!
Welcome Back,
 
 
Mark

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Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:33 PM
To: David K. Kelmer; William Willis
Cc: Quad-List
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] dave k.


Big Welcome back to ya Dave, glad your home and doing better !
Dan H.

"David K. Kelmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Hey, folks.  I wanted to thank all of you for your kind words and for your
prayers.  I got home Thursday but my DSL was down until today, Tuesday 13th!
I am feeling great and am ready to get back to a 'normal' quad life.  I love
you all and am proud to have you as my friends!
 
With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 


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