RE: [QUAD-L] Ibot

[Danny Espinoza]

My right arm. hand is to my wrist only

 

From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:47 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ibot

 

If you have good arm and hand movement, how do you qualify for a power
wheelchair? 

 

john

 

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From: Eddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:14:19 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ibot

I have an IBOT it's great but u need good arm and hand movement to operate.

 

Eddie

Sent from Eddie's iPhone


On Oct 16, 2008, at 1:06 PM, "John S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Medicare is only buying Ibots for people who are close relatives of high
placed bureaucrats. I only know one person who has an Ibot and he is a para
that is the brother of a woman that is on the steering committee for Ohio's
waiver program. They even built him a house. Depending on thew economy, they
show him off or try to hide him. Since 2002 his house has privacy bushes.

You need a chair that you can steer. Some chairs have a steering system that
lets an aid drive it. You may want sip n puff. I don't know what you are
capable of. It should have a tilt feature to shift pressure points and
prevent sores. It should recline and have a padded headrest and probably a
seat designed for you. Trough armrests. Footplates large enough that your
toes do not hang off. A power outlet in case of need for oxygen or
ventilator. (God forbid) Better to get it than to wish it was there while
you turn blue. Largest batteries possible. If you do not fly, you do not
need gell cell batteries. Get SLA batteries, tons more power at half the
price of gells. 

Decide where you want to get your chair then they will walk you through the
process. Be insistant about the batteries. SLA's outlast gells and provide a
lot more power for longer. A Roho Quadra main seating cushion is what I
recommend. 
I'm in the process of having an invacare tdx3 or 4 built for me. If you get
the Invacare, the TDX has center wheel drive and manuvers in tight places
well. The Invacare Storm is rear wheel drive and supports more weight with
larger battery options, although I've only seen one size battery go in them
Be sure they put in padded hip guides so your butt doesn't shift and
comfortable restraint belts and foot straps, maybe arm straps. And get a
MyDesc lap table.

Thats all I can think of. Someone else will pick up something I missed.

I find that by having my DME (wheelchair supplier) close by I usually get my
chair repairs that day, but ask your local CIL, (Independant living center)
which DME is best in your area and accepts Medicare/Medicaid assignments.
Ask other quads or rehab places. If you get a rare and exotic chair, you
will wait longer for parts. 

 

Best Wishes

john

 

 

- Original Message 
From: Danny Espinoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:55:44 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Ibot

I need a power chair. Ive read good things about the ibot.. However all I
have for insurance is medical, and recently medicare. I have doubts they
would cover it just because Ive had a difficult time with them covering
other basic things.. Those of you who have got one in which medical/medicare
covered, could you share some pointers with along with what hoops you had to
jump through? Id greatly appreciate it! Thanks in advance!

 

 

I am paralyzed from the neck down for now.. 

Occupation before car accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer 

Certs A+, N+, LPI, CCNA, CCNP, CCSP

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner bone at c2 

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord off a vent "woohoo" 

however only one half of my diaphragm works right now "due to asymmetric
SCI"

My unfinished webpage http://spinalcordinjured.net
 

 

 

 


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Re: [QUAD-L] Ibot

[wheelchair]

Your rehab doctor must specify the description of the IBOT to be  considered.
Best Wishes
 
 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



--- On Fri, 10/17/08, John S.  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From:  John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Ibot
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date:  Friday, October 17, 2008, 2:46 PM

  
 
If you have good arm and hand movement, how do you qualify for a  power 
wheelchair? 
 
john


 

 From: Eddie  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John S.  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008  4:14:19 PM
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Ibot

I have an IBOT it's great but u need good arm and hand movement  to operate.


Eddie

Sent from Eddie's iPhone

On Oct 16, 2008, at 1:06 PM, "John S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >  wrote:





 
Medicare is only buying Ibots for people who are close  relatives of high 
placed bureaucrats. I only know one person who has  an Ibot and he is a para 
that 
is the brother of a woman that is on  the steering committee for Ohio's 
waiver program. They even built  him a house. Depending on thew economy, they 
show 
him off or try to  hide him. Since 2002 his house has privacy bushes.
You need a chair that you can steer. Some chairs have a  steering system that 
lets an aid drive it. You may want sip n puff.  I don't know what you are 
capable of. It should have a tilt  feature to shift pressure points and prevent 
sores. It should  recline and have a padded headrest and probably a seat 
designed for  you. Trough armrests. Footplates large enough that your toes do 
not  
hang off. A power outlet in case of need for oxygen or ventilator.  (God 
forbid) Better to get it than to wish it was there while you  turn blue. 
Largest 
batteries possible. If you do not fly, you do not  need gell cell batteries. 
Get 
SLA batteries, tons more power at half  the price of gells. 
Decide where you want to get your chair then they will walk you  through the 
process. Be insistant about the batteries. SLA's outlast  gells and provide a 
lot more power for longer. A Roho Quadra main  seating cushion is what I 
recommend. 
I'm in the process of  having an invacare tdx3 or 4 built for me. If you get 
the Invacare,  the TDX has center wheel drive and manuvers in tight places 
well.  The Invacare Storm is rear wheel drive and supports more weight with  
larger battery options, although I've only seen one size battery go  in them Be 
sure they put in padded hip guides so your butt  doesn't shift and comfortable 
restraint belts and foot straps, maybe  arm straps. And get a MyDesc lap table.
Thats all I can think of. Someone else will pick up something I  missed.
I find that by having my DME (wheelchair supplier) close by I  usually get my 
chair repairs that day, but ask your local CIL,  (Independant living center) 
which DME is best in your area and  accepts Medicare/Medicaid assignments. Ask 
other quads or rehab  places. If you get a rare and exotic chair, you will 
wait longer for  parts. 
 
Best Wishes
john



-  Original Message 
From: Danny Espinoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent: Thursday, October  16, 2008 2:55:44 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Ibot


I need a power chair… Ive read good things about  the ibot…. However all I 
have for insurance is medical, and recently  medicare. I have doubts they would 
cover it just because Ive had a  difficult time with them covering other 
basic things…. Those of you  who have got one in which medical/medicare 
covered, 
could you share  some pointers with along with what hoops you had to jump 
through? Id  greatly appreciate it! Thanks in advance!


I am paralyzed from the neck down for now..  
Occupation before car accident - Network engineer  / SR. Network security 
engineer 
Certs A+, N+, LPI, CCNA, CCNP,  CCSP

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner bone at c2 
TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal  cord off a vent "woohoo" 
however only one half of my diaphragm works right  now "due to asymmetric SCI"
My unfinished webpage _http://spinalcordinjured.net_ 
(http://spinalcordinjured.net/)   














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Re: [QUAD-L] Moonshadow Moonshadow

[Lori Michaelson]

I only remember the tune by Cat Stevens.  Moonshadow.

Oh, Im bein followed by a moonshadow, moonshadow, moonshadow
Leapin and hoppin on a moonshadow, moonshadow, moonshadow

And if I ever lose my hands, lose my plough, lose my land,
Oh if I ever lose my hands, oh if I wont have to work no more.
And if I ever lose my eyes, if my colours all run dry,
Yes if I ever lose my eyes, oh if I wont have to cry no more.

And if I ever lose my legs, I wont moan, and I wont beg,
Yes if I ever lose my legs, oh if I wont have to walk no more.
And if I ever lose my mouth, all my teeth, north and south,
Yes if I ever lose my mouth, oh if I wont have to talk  no more

-
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 2:48 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  When The Moon, Comes Over The Mountain was a line from what song?
> (lol)
> Best Wishes
>
>  In a message dated 10/16/2008 4:07:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> Did anyone go out to see or enjoy the moon last night?  I think the full
> moon was Monday night but it looked full last night as well.  It was in the
> 70s here and so beautiful.
>
> When we went outside around 7 p.m the moon was just coming up over the
> mountains and it was SO bright!  And it looked to have a slight orange
> tint to it.  It was so bright that I could even read my watch easily
> enough!  It was simply gorgeous!  Of course it kept climbing up higher and
> higher getting away from the mountains and illuminating everything.  The
> two-story house next to us look like a big light was shining on the side of
> it!
>
> Was still able to enjoy the stars and constellations on the other side of
> the sky and we stayed out there as long as we could. And one bright planet
>  -- didn't take our GPS out and it would not have worked anyway look as the
> moon was so bright.
>
> This is great because by Halloween it will be DARK.  We love sitting out
> front and hoping as many little kiddies as possible come by.  We usually sit
> in the dark and have only one tiny little ceramic pumpkin light on and every
> once in awhile my husband will go "BRUUU-HA HA HA" and the
> neighbors & kids chuckle.  Of jump as my husband has one hell of a set of
> lungs!
>
> Lori Michaelson
> Age - 44
> C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post
> Tucson, AZ
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Ibot

[Danny Hearn]

--- On Fri, 10/17/08, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ibot
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 2:46 PM






If you have good arm and hand movement, how do you qualify for a power 
wheelchair? 
 
john





From: Eddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:14:19 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ibot


I have an IBOT it's great but u need good arm and hand movement to operate.


Eddie

Sent from Eddie's iPhone

On Oct 16, 2008, at 1:06 PM, "John S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






Medicare is only buying Ibots for people who are close relatives of high placed 
bureaucrats. I only know one person who has an Ibot and he is a para that is 
the brother of a woman that is on the steering committee for Ohio's waiver 
program. They even built him a house. Depending on thew economy, they show him 
off or try to hide him. Since 2002 his house has privacy bushes.
You need a chair that you can steer. Some chairs have a steering system that 
lets an aid drive it. You may want sip n puff. I don't know what you are 
capable of. It should have a tilt feature to shift pressure points and prevent 
sores. It should recline and have a padded headrest and probably a seat 
designed for you. Trough armrests. Footplates large enough that your toes do 
not hang off. A power outlet in case of need for oxygen or ventilator. (God 
forbid) Better to get it than to wish it was there while you turn blue. Largest 
batteries possible. If you do not fly, you do not need gell cell batteries. Get 
SLA batteries, tons more power at half the price of gells. 
Decide where you want to get your chair then they will walk you through the 
process. Be insistant about the batteries. SLA's outlast gells and provide a 
lot more power for longer. A Roho Quadra main seating cushion is what I 
recommend. 
I'm in the process of having an invacare tdx3 or 4 built for me. If you get the 
Invacare, the TDX has center wheel drive and manuvers in tight places well. The 
Invacare Storm is rear wheel drive and supports more weight with larger battery 
options, although I've only seen one size battery go in them Be sure they put 
in padded hip guides so your butt doesn't shift and comfortable restraint belts 
and foot straps, maybe arm straps. And get a MyDesc lap table.
Thats all I can think of. Someone else will pick up something I missed.
I find that by having my DME (wheelchair supplier) close by I usually get my 
chair repairs that day, but ask your local CIL, (Independant living center) 
which DME is best in your area and accepts Medicare/Medicaid assignments. Ask 
other quads or rehab places. If you get a rare and exotic chair, you will wait 
longer for parts. 
 
Best Wishes
john




- Original Message 
From: Danny Espinoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:55:44 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Ibot



I need a power chair… Ive read good things about the ibot…. However all I have 
for insurance is medical, and recently medicare. I have doubts they would cover 
it just because Ive had a difficult time with them covering other basic 
things…. Those of you who have got one in which medical/medicare covered, could 
you share some pointers with along with what hoops you had to jump through? Id 
greatly appreciate it! Thanks in advance!
 
 
I am paralyzed from the neck down for now.. 
Occupation before car accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security 
engineer 
Certs A+, N+, LPI, CCNA, CCNP, CCSP
Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner bone at c2 
TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord off a vent "woohoo" 
however only one half of my diaphragm works right now "due to asymmetric SCI"
My unfinished webpage http://spinalcordinjured.net
 
 

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Re: [QUAD-L] new to list

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Todd,
 
Welcome to the Q-List.  I am c4-5, 32 yrs post, from a white-water rafting 
accident on the Upper Salt River in AZ.  I am 55, father of two, and 
grandfather of four living TX.  I'm sure you will find the Q-List members to 
hold an interesting assortment of views.  Pull up a chair and join the 
discussion.
 

With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 32 Years Post
Texas, USA 


--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Todd Daugherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Todd Daugherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [QUAD-L] new to list
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 2:17 PM



Hello all.  I'm new to the list.  I'm a C-6 incomplete from car accident and 
just passed the 19 year anniversary.  I'm 36 now and working as a QA software 
tester.  I got married about 6 years ago and have a 5 year old son.  I don't 
have many hobbies, poker and I drag race two cars on the weekends. I was 
curious how many suscribers there are on this list?  Anyways, hello everyone.
 
Todd

Re: [QUAD-L] McCain and McCain's choice for running mate

[John S.]

Dick Cheney is using up the healthcare money that would have been used to 
balance Medicare. It costs a fortune to keep people alive without a heart.

john





From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: QUAD-LIST@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:28:50 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] McCain and McCain's choice for running mate

For the first 6 years, I thought Cheny was the President.  Where has he been 
the last 2?  Isn't that strange or is it me?

Best Wishes

In a message dated 10/16/2008 8:13:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Don't kid yourself.  The vice president has quite a bit of power now.  We will 
see if that remain so, but if you think he or she doesn't, just look what the 
current vice president has managed to accomplish.
Quadius


On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Lori Michaelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



When someone running for president chooses their running mate for vice 
president is only for "electoral votes" and nothing else.  And don't fool 
yourself for thinking any differently.  Anything else is just an insurance 
policy.  When it comes right down to it... the vice president does very, very, 
very little if anything at all.  Even the House and Senate have more power than 
even the president over most issues as any bills/laws have to be passed by both 
of them.





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Re: [QUAD-L] Ibot

[John S.]

If you have good arm and hand movement, how do you qualify for a power 
wheelchair? 

john





From: Eddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:14:19 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ibot


I have an IBOT it's great but u need good arm and hand movement to operate.

Eddie

Sent from Eddie's iPhone

On Oct 16, 2008, at 1:06 PM, "John S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Medicare is only buying Ibots for people who are close relatives of high placed 
bureaucrats. I only know one person who has an Ibot and he is a para that is 
the brother of a woman that is on the steering committee for Ohio's waiver 
program. They even built him a house. Depending on thew economy, they show him 
off or try to hide him. Since 2002 his house has privacy bushes.
You need a chair that you can steer. Some chairs have a steering system that 
lets an aid drive it. You may want sip n puff. I don't know what you are 
capable of. It should have a tilt feature to shift pressure points and prevent 
sores. It should recline and have a padded headrest and probably a seat 
designed for you. Trough armrests. Footplates large enough that your toes do 
not hang off. A power outlet in case of need for oxygen or ventilator. (God 
forbid) Better to get it than to wish it was there while you turn blue. Largest 
batteries possible. If you do not fly, you do not need gell cell batteries. Get 
SLA batteries, tons more power at half the price of gells. 
Decide where you want to get your chair then they will walk you through the 
process. Be insistant about the batteries. SLA's outlast gells and provide a 
lot more power for longer. A Roho Quadra main seating cushion is what I 
recommend. 
I'm in the process of having an invacare tdx3 or 4 built for me. If you get the 
Invacare, the TDX has center wheel drive and manuvers in tight places well. The 
Invacare Storm is rear wheel drive and supports more weight with larger battery 
options, although I've only seen one size battery go in them Be sure they put 
in padded hip guides so your butt doesn't shift and comfortable restraint belts 
and foot straps, maybe arm straps. And get a MyDesc lap table.
Thats all I can think of. Someone else will pick up something I missed.
I find that by having my DME (wheelchair supplier) close by I usually get my 
chair repairs that day, but ask your local CIL, (Independant living center) 
which DME is best in your area and accepts Medicare/Medicaid assignments. Ask 
other quads or rehab places. If you get a rare and exotic chair, you will wait 
longer for parts. 
 
Best Wishes
john



- Original Message 
From: Danny Espinoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:55:44 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Ibot


I need a power chair… Ive read good things about the ibot…. However all I have 
for insurance is medical, and recently medicare. I have doubts they would cover 
it just because Ive had a difficult time with them covering other basic 
things…. Those of you who have got one in which medical/medicare covered, could 
you share some pointers with along with what hoops you had to jump through? Id 
greatly appreciate it! Thanks in advance!
 
 
I am paralyzed from the neck down for now.. 
Occupation before car accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security 
engineer 
Certs A+, N+, LPI, CCNA, CCNP, CCSP
Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner bone at c2 
TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord off a vent "woohoo" 
however only one half of my diaphragm works right now "due to asymmetric SCI"
My unfinished webpage http://spinalcordinjured.net

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Re: [QUAD-L] Magazines?

[KK]

That  one is free


- Original Message 
From: Liz Treston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:48:03 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Magazines?


ACTION put out by www.unitedspinal.org
 


 
From:Greg
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008
7:10 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Magazines?
 
What’s the best magazine for quads?
I know that is a judgment call, but there are not a lot to
chose from. I looked at a PN (Paraplegic News) and it looks well done. Some of
the ads are things that I would be interested in. I looked at their web page and
it is well done. New Mobility’s web page looks good also, but I haven
‘t looked through a real magazine yet. I was going to get a subscription
maybe, but was wondering what one is better and if there was any others out
there?
Thanks,
Greg

RE: [QUAD-L] Magazines?

[Liz Treston]

ACTION put out by www.unitedspinal.org

 

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From: Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:10 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Magazines?

 

What's the best magazine for quads?

I know that is a judgment call, but there are not a lot to chose from. I
looked at a PN (Paraplegic News) and it looks well done. Some of the ads are
things that I would be interested in. I looked at their web page and it is
well done. New Mobility's web page looks good also, but I haven 't looked
through a real magazine yet. I was going to get a subscription maybe, but
was wondering what one is better and if there was any others out there?

Thanks,

Greg