Re: [QUAD-L] DVT in calf
Wishing the the best LQ! Tim c5-c6 (23 yrs. post) From: ~LittleQuad~ littleq...@yahoo.com To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com; Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] DVT in calf I don't know...I'm not sure how bad it is. i go to the doctor in the morning. it seems the docs may not think it's thaaat bad... not sure? LQ--- On Fri, 6/8/12, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] DVT in calf To: wheelch...@aol.com, littleq...@yahoo.com, quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, June 8, 2012, 11:20 AM yes, hope you get better soonin rehab I had one in my leg and was on blood thinner too---cant remember the lenth of time, but seeed like a month or 2 maybe. They put a greenfield filter in my groin leg area...and said that should keep any more from getting to my lungs or heart. Yours may have been caused by the dentist and leg accident thing--good luck ! Dan H. *** From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com To: littleq...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, June 8, 2012 11:08:08 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] DVT in calf Amye, are you a good candidate for an Everclear filter that is implanted in the leg to filter and prevent clots? Just asking Best Wishes In a message dated 6/8/2012 11:02:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, littleq...@yahoo.com writes: Hey gang! My right calf and foot have been swollen and numb feeling (I have great sensation in whole body). So Tuesday I was able to see my rehab doc, he thought the symptoms showed a DVT. I couldnt think of why I would have one. So the Wednesday I went to get ultrasound. Yep, the front left vein has a clot. They wouldn't let me leave the hospital until the doctors had a plan. So I'm on 5mg Coumadin a day and a shot of Enoxaparin Sodium every 12 hours. Yesterday when I was getting up I looked down at my right chin, i remembered a scab that I've had a while and it dawned on me...on May 7th I went to the dentist and while under nitrous and my hand control turned to the side, I decided to reaarange my chair. In doing so I rammed my leg into a table. Thank goodness I had on jeans and a blanket because it scraped my leg to chin bone. It never dawned on me i could have given myself a DVT. Yet when I look at the now scar and where my sensation starts changing it's the same area. Now I've got to watch out more closely!! Anyone else ever have one? How long was treatment? Amye - LQ
[QUAD-L] Realplayer
I can't download videos from you tube any longer. Anybody know what changed? Glenn Henry
[QUAD-L] Hospital Fees
I just got a co-pay bill for a hospital stay. For 3 days plus procedures, the bill was about $8,000. Now I have insurance and it is an HMO, so they contract with doctors and hospitals, etc. so they can get a better rate. Their contracted fees that the insurance had to pay was under $1,000. Now that’s great for me because I pay a percentage of that fee. A percentage of $1,000 is better than a percentage of $8,000. But if a non insured person had to pay, they pay the whole $8,000. So the non insured persons, who can afford it the least, are paying the inflated prices so the hospitals can afford to give insurance companies discounts. Somehow that just seams morally wrong. The Religious Right needs to ask themselves… WWJD? And see if they really follow His word’s and deeds. A contracted discount is great, but that’s more than a discount. And that’s just one bill, they all seem to be that bog of discounts. Greg
[QUAD-L] Nightmare w/c supplier
Hi All, I Had been (am still for now) using a provider CMC 2 miles from my home for the past 15 pr so years. When I call about a repair they take FOEVER to get back to me even when I call once a week. Sometime in March I called because I needed to order a new power chair, the were here the NEXT DAY. Chris and I went over all the different options new since 2001 I asked about a power head rest and a few other things which he didn't know the answer. He left saying he would call me regarding my questions. Never heard from him even though I left many message's. Then last week I got a call from my case manager from my HMO, CMC had contacted them about ORDERING my NEW chair. I never told CMC that I was ready to order my chair yet. My case manager said … CMC called your Doctor to get the RX they needed, were calling to confirm the order. I deliberately DIDN'T give CMC an RX because I decided I did not want to use that company ever again. So I told my case manager DO NOT approve this power w/c to CMC. They called CMC and told them Not approved Has this happened to anybody else? Bobbie Sent from my iPad
Re: [QUAD-L] Hospital Fees
The one thing you left out is the uninsured person pays zero. Thats whats breaking the system or part of it. Ron From: Greg g...@eskimo.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, June 25, 2012 3:32:36 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Hospital Fees I just got a co-pay bill for a hospital stay. For 3 days plus procedures, the bill was about $8,000. Now I have insurance and it is an HMO, so they contract with doctors and hospitals, etc. so they can get a better rate. Their contracted fees that the insurance had to pay was under $1,000. Now that’s great for me because I pay a percentage of that fee. A percentage of $1,000 is better than a percentage of $8,000. But if a non insured person had to pay, they pay the whole $8,000. So the non insured persons, who can afford it the least, are paying the inflated prices so the hospitals can afford to give insurance companies discounts. Somehow that just seams morally wrong. The Religious Right needs to ask themselves… WWJD? And see if they really follow His word’s and deeds. A contracted discount is great, but that’s more than a discount. And that’s just one bill, they all seem to be that bog of discounts.
Re: [QUAD-L] Nightmare w/c supplier
I hear or read about similar stories about twice a week. People either don't know the system or try to skirt around the established guidelines to further their gain. An evaluation, by a certified Occupational Therapist. ATS's are NOT Occupational Therapist, but sometimes they think and act like they are. An Occupational Therapist is responsible to YOU and YOUR DOCTOR. An ATS is only responsible to their employer, usually the provider and supplier of the equipment. Once the written eval has been completed it goes back to your doctor for the Order. At that point you can go anywhere to purchase your chair, with your copy or copies of the specification developed by YOU and the OT. After the chair is built and delivered, before you sign for it, the OT will inspect and verify that all the accessories are there and adjusted by the ATS. Then and only then do you sign. Best Wishes In a message dated 6/25/2012 3:39:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bobbie...@aol.com writes: Hi All, I Had been (am still for now) using a provider CMC 2 miles from my home for the past 15 pr so years. When I call about a repair they take FOEVER to get back to me even when I call once a week. Sometime in March I called because I needed to order a new power chair, the were here the NEXT DAY. Chris and I went over all the different options new since 2001 I asked about a power head rest and a few other things which he didn't know the answer. He left saying he would call me regarding my questions. Never heard from him even though I left many message's. Then last week I got a call from my case manager from my HMO, CMC had contacted them about ORDERING my NEW chair. I never told CMC that I was ready to order my chair yet. My case manager said … CMC called your Doctor to get the RX they needed, were calling to confirm the order. I deliberately DIDN'T give CMC an RX because I decided I did not want to use that company ever again. So I told my case manager DO NOT approve this power w/c to CMC. They called CMC and told them Not approved Has this happened to anybody else? Bobbie Sent from my iPad
Re: [QUAD-L] Realplayer
did I hear or read that You Tube is going to be charging. ? Best Wishes In a message dated 6/25/2012 2:29:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gah17...@aol.com writes: I can't download videos from you tube any longer. Anybody know what changed? Glenn Henry
[QUAD-L] Obamacare Decision
I visit rehab hospitals almost daily as part of my job. I don't like a lot of our current system and I don't like a lot of Obamacare. In about 72 hours we will have the SCOTUS opinion on Obamacare. My guess is the individual mandate gets ruled unconstitutional. If that's the case I hope our lawmakers can go back to the drawingboard and develop some serious, bi-partisan healthcare reform, and do it right this time. I know I'm dreaming. Two things I hope they consider: 1. tort reform. Medical malpractice suits and awards are out of hand. This is one of the biggest reasons healthcare costs have skyrocketed. Ever wonder why doctors push to have every test under the sun performed before they diagnose? Yes, the want to cover their a$$ from malpractice suits. Everytime somebody sues the hospital for $80 million everybody else foots the bill. Some lawsuits have merit, many do not. 2. Allow interstate health insurance--allow market forces to work. If you can buy your health insurance cheaper from a company in Indiana or Oregon you should be allowed to. Competition tends to keep price down. Look at how auto insurance companies compete by offering lower rates. That's a start. I wish I knew all the answers. Don.
Re: [QUAD-L] Hospital Fees
The hospitals do a HUGE amount of charity care. It is illegal to turn anyone away from emergency care whether they have insurance or not and whether they are a citizen or not. The hospital eats some costs but mostly passes them on to others who have insurance. The not-for-profit hospitals tend to be better at charity work, but they still need to stay in business. It's hard to insert Jesus into the mix because most hospitals are in business to make money, which is both good and bad. Toss in greed, waste, fraud and bureaucracy and there are plenty of factors to mess with our system. Don. From: Greg g...@eskimo.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Hospital Fees I just got a co-pay bill for a hospital stay. For 3 days plus procedures, the bill was about $8,000. Now I have insurance and it is an HMO, so they contract with doctors and hospitals, etc. so they can get a better rate. Their contracted fees that the insurance had to pay was under $1,000. Now that’s great for me because I pay a percentage of that fee. A percentage of $1,000 is better than a percentage of $8,000. But if a non insured person had to pay, they pay the whole $8,000. So the non insured persons, who can afford it the least, are paying the inflated prices so the hospitals can afford to give insurance companies discounts. Somehow that just seams morally wrong. The Religious Right needs to ask themselves… WWJD? And see if they really follow His word’s and deeds. A contracted discount is great, but that’s more than a discount. And that’s just one bill, they all seem to be that bog of discounts. Greg
Re: [QUAD-L] Hospital Fees
Don, back in the day, your barber, did the work of today's surgeons, and there were no lawsuits. The operating room often was the barber chair and sometimes at the nearest home. Profit wasn't considered as everyone paid for their own haircuts and shaves (smiling) Today, its all so very different. We actually have For-Profit Private Hospitals who turn away ambulances to other facilities. They survive on the gravy of the business and self paying customers. These hospital often look just like regular hospitals from the outside. Many or most of today's modern hospital have been taken over by most of the religious groups. We have the Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Mormon and several others too. Today, these hospital are rarely charity in the sense we remember and you don't get out without paying or signing a promise to pay agreement. Regarding lawsuits, I believe most have medical merit before an administrative judge. And how much value to we place on permanent loss? I agree with you that nothing will be perfect until both sides agree without bias. Best Wishes In a message dated 6/25/2012 5:11:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, donpric...@yahoo.com writes: The hospitals do a HUGE amount of charity care. It is illegal to turn anyone away from emergency care whether they have the insurance or not and whether they are a citizen or not. The hospital eats some costs but mostly passes them on to others who have insurance. The not-for-profit hospitals tend to be better at charity work, but they still need to stay in business. It's hard to insert Jesus into the mix because most hospitals are in business to make money, which is both good and bad. Toss in greed, waste, fraud and bureaucracy and there are plenty of factors to mess with our system. Don. From: Greg g...@eskimo.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Hospital Fees I just got a co-pay bill for a hospital stay. For 3 days plus procedures, the bill was about $8,000. Now I have insurance and it is an HMO, so they contract with doctors and hospitals, etc. so they can get a better rate. Their contracted fees that the insurance had to pay was under $1,000. Now that’ s great for me because I pay a percentage of that fee. A percentage of $1,000 is better than a percentage of $8,000. But if a non insured person had to pay, they pay the whole $8,000. So the non insured persons, who can afford it the least, are paying the inflated prices so the hospitals can afford to give insurance companies discounts. Somehow that just seams morally wrong. The Religious Right needs to ask themselves… WWJD? And see if they really follow His word’s and deeds. A contracted discount is great, but that’s more than a discount. And that’s just one bill, they all seem to be that bog of discounts. Greg
Re: [QUAD-L] Hospital Fees
Ah, the good old days of blood-letting at the barbershop. I did a paper on this in college. If you look at your standard barber pole it has white and red stripes [and sometimes blue.] The red represents blood, the white bandages and the blue is veins. There's also a basin at the bottom of the bowl which is where the blood collected. Leeches were commonly used. Makes you thankful for what we have now! From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com To: donpric...@yahoo.com; g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hospital Fees Don, back in the day, your barber, did the work of today's surgeons, and there were no lawsuits. The operating room often was the barber chair and sometimes at the nearest home. Profit wasn't considered as everyone paid for their own haircuts and shaves (smiling) Today, its all so very different. We actually have For-Profit Private Hospitals who turn away ambulances to other facilities. They survive on the gravy of the business and self paying customers. These hospital often look just like regular hospitals from the outside. Many or most of today's modern hospital have been taken over by most of the religious groups. We have the Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Mormon and several others too. Today, these hospital are rarely charity in the sense we remember and you don't get out without paying or signing a promise to pay agreement. Regarding lawsuits, I believe most have medical merit before an administrative judge. And how much value to we place on permanent loss? I agree with you that nothing will be perfect until both sides agree without bias. Best Wishes In a message dated 6/25/2012 5:11:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, donpric...@yahoo.com writes: The hospitals do a HUGE amount of charity care. It is illegal to turn anyone away from emergency care whether they have the insurance or not and whether they are a citizen or not. The hospital eats some costs but mostly passes them on to others who have insurance. The not-for-profit hospitals tend to be better at charity work, but they still need to stay in business. It's hard to insert Jesus into the mix because most hospitals are in business to make money, which is both good and bad. Toss in greed, waste, fraud and bureaucracy and there are plenty of factors to mess with our system. Don. From: Greg g...@eskimo.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Hospital Fees I just got a co-pay bill for a hospital stay. For 3 days plus procedures, the bill was about $8,000. Now I have insurance and it is an HMO, so they contract with doctors and hospitals, etc. so they can get a better rate. Their contracted fees that the insurance had to pay was under $1,000. Now that’s great for me because I pay a percentage of that fee. A percentage of $1,000 is better than a percentage of $8,000. But if a non insured person had to pay, they pay the whole $8,000. So the non insured persons, who can afford it the least, are paying the inflated prices so the hospitals can afford to give insurance companies discounts. Somehow that just seams morally wrong. The Religious Right needs to ask themselves… WWJD? And see if they really follow His word’s and deeds. A contracted discount is great, but that’s more than a discount. And that’s just one bill, they all seem to be that bog of discounts. Greg
