Re: [QUAD-L] Its Not About The Number Of Years...

2013-09-18 Thread Dana Wray
Hi Greg ,
I'm so sorry to hear about the experience of your grandmother. I encourage 
everybody to write about the new labor laws that drastically affect people on 
self-directed care. It will cut The Number of Hours a Caregiver Can Work. 
Caregivers have to work extra hours, because Of the Difficulty of finding 
people who will work for the hourly rate paid for the caregivers on state 
programs. States Do Not have the money to pay time and a half. This is
Really an important issue To contact your legislators about. These laws have 
been waived  in the past reguarding consumer directed care programs.
 Does this affect their anyone else on the Quad-list?
Dana

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 18, 2013, at 11:18 PM, RONALD L PRACHT  wrote:

> I agree, if you live to be 90 sitting in a nursing home, unable to get a 
> drink of waterwaiting to die, life can be worse than death itself. My 
> grandma just died in a nursing home at 89 yrs old of thirst. they wouldnt 
> even give her drinks of water throughout the day. Imagine the hell of that, 
> with a pitcher sitting on the table near you. People will save a rabies 
> infested dog quicker than they would help an old personthe 
> world is getting sick. There has to be a better way to deal with old and 
> disabled folks without family support. I told my mom, can you imagine if you 
> put a hidden camera in each room at nursing homes. She said that wouldnt work 
> because every attendent and nurse would be fired, lol.
>  
> Ron
> 
> From: "wheelch...@aol.com" 
> To: quad...@gmail.com; r.pra...@sbcglobal.net 
> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:09 PM
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Its Not About The Number Of Years...
> 
> Its Not About The Number Of Years you get.  Its all about how you spend those 
> hours, minutes and seconds.  Enjoy life to your fullest.
> Best Wishes
>  
> In a message dated 9/18/2013 5:03:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> quad...@gmail.com writes:
> I had no idea that Dave passed away. Now I'm bummed out. I'm glad he had a 
> wonderful life.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 


Re: [QUAD-L] Its Not About The Number Of Years...

2013-09-18 Thread RONALD L PRACHT
I agree, if you live to be 90 sitting in a nursing home, unable to get a drink 
of waterwaiting to die, life can be worse than death itself. My grandma 
just died in a nursing home at 89 yrs old of thirst. they wouldnt even give her 
drinks of water throughout the day. Imagine the hell of that, with a pitcher 
sitting on the table near you. People will save a rabies infested dog quicker 
than they would help an old personthe world is getting sick. 
There has to be a better way to deal with old and disabled folks without family 
support. I told my mom, can you imagine if you put a hidden camera in each room 
at nursing homes. She said that wouldnt work because every attendent and nurse 
would be fired, lol.
 
Ron
 


 From: "wheelch...@aol.com" 
To: quad...@gmail.com; r.pra...@sbcglobal.net 
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:09 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Its Not About The Number Of Years...
  


 
Its Not About The Number Of Years you get.  Its all about how you 
spend those hours, minutes and seconds.  Enjoy life to your fullest. 
Best Wishes 

In a message dated 9/18/2013 5:03:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
quad...@gmail.com writes: 
I had no idea that Dave passed away. Now I'm bummed out. I'm glad  he had a 
wonderful life.
>
> 
>
>
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today

2013-09-18 Thread Dana Wray
Thank you So much for the information it was so correct.
To remember our Quad-list members who have passed and appreciate their lives  
And what they shared with us .
Dana
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On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:37 AM, RONALD L PRACHT  wrote:

> I was told in 98 when I was 21 to expect to live 20 yrs past the point of 
> injury. They told me this was good considering b4 ww2 people with spinal 
> injuries lived about 2 yrs post. I realized this was probally bullshit at the 
> time. How long a quad lives depends on so many factors its unreal. 
> Realisticly, I believe if I do a good job with myself, I think for me being 
> 21 at injury, c6-7, taking pretty good care of myselfI should reach 
> 60 yrs old..40 yrs post injury b4 my death. There are so many things to 
> get you as a quad thoughskin breakdown, pnemonia, blood clots, 
> getting run over, caregiver abuse, depression, obesity, cancer, just plain 
> bad luck.and 1000 more. The main factor is at what age you receive 
> your injury, obviously if your 50 when you get paralyzed your chances at 
> living old are greater.I think Dave Occonnel was the poster child for 
> quadom.he got it at 17 on a balance beam showing off for some 
> girlshe was a teacher many years, then worked at some big company on 
> computers forever, had a family, kids, housemany cars. I remember him 
> telling me his first car was a 67 caddillac. He lived life, had plenty of 
> love and took pretty good care of himself. I think he was 64 upon his passing.
>  
> Ron  
> 
> From: Dana Wray 
> To: greg  
> Cc: ""  
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today
> 
> 
> Hi Greg,
> So you celebrate your anniversary as your birthday? I guess I like to 
> celebrate both occasions. Saw post on the Quad-list on Facebook about the 
> oldest living Quadriplegic, 86 years I think.
> Tried to click on it but there was no story about her.
> 
> Does anyone know her story?
> Dana
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:11 PM, greg  wrote:
> 
>> I'm 49 and 32 years post. I always feel like my birthday is my accident date 
>> now.
>> Greg
>> 
>> > Belated congratulations on your birthday. I myself am 49 and 18
>> > years post. I'm hoping to make it to 80.
> 
> 


[QUAD-L] Its Not About The Number Of Years...

2013-09-18 Thread wheelchair
Its Not About The Number Of Years you get.  Its all about how you  spend 
those hours, minutes and seconds.  Enjoy life to your fullest.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 9/18/2013 5:03:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
quad...@gmail.com writes:

I had no idea that Dave passed away. Now I'm bummed out. I'm glad  he had a 
wonderful life.








Re: [QUAD-L] new Ironside series

2013-09-18 Thread Quadius
It might make it, but I didn't really care for it too much.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Ben Mattlin  wrote:

> Any of you guys catch this?  It's the pilot episode of the new series
> about a paraplegic badass cop (the reboot of the 1960s-70s series), online
> before it airs on NBC.  Opinions?
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.nbc.com/ironside/video/pilot/n40076
>
> __
>
> Ben Mattlin
>
> www.BenMattlin.com
>
> www.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com
>
> ** **
>


Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today

2013-09-18 Thread Quadius
I had no idea that Dave passed away. Now I'm bummed out. I'm glad he had a
wonderful life.



On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:37 AM, RONALD L PRACHT wrote:

> I was told in 98 when I was 21 to expect to live 20 yrs past the point of
> injury. They told me this was good considering b4 ww2 people with spinal
> injuries lived about 2 yrs post. I realized this was probally bullshit at
> the time. How long a quad lives depends on so many factors its unreal.
> Realisticly, I believe if I do a good job with myself, I think for me being
> 21 at injury, c6-7, taking pretty good care of myselfI should reach
> 60 yrs old..40 yrs post injury b4 my death. There are so many things to
> get you as a quad thoughskin breakdown, pnemonia, blood clots,
> getting run over, caregiver abuse, depression, obesity, cancer, just plain
> bad luck.and 1000 more. The main factor is at what age you receive
> your injury, obviously if your 50 when you get paralyzed your chances at
> living old are greater.I think Dave Occonnel was the poster child for
> quadom.he got it at 17 on a balance beam showing off for some
> girlshe was a teacher many years, then worked at some big company
> on computers forever, had a family, kids, housemany cars. I
> remember him telling me his first car was a 67 caddillac. He lived life,
> had plenty of love and took pretty good care of himself. I think he was 64
> upon his passing.
>
> Ron
>
>*From:* Dana Wray 
> *To:* greg 
> *Cc:* "" 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:43 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today
>
>
> Hi Greg,
> So you celebrate your anniversary as your birthday? I guess I like to
> celebrate both occasions. Saw post on the Quad-list on Facebook about the
> oldest living Quadriplegic, 86 years I think.
> Tried to click on it but there was no story about her.
>
> Does anyone know her story?
> Dana
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:11 PM, greg  wrote:
>
> I'm 49 and 32 years post. I always feel like my birthday is my accident
> date now.
> Greg
>
> > Belated congratulations on your birthday. I myself am 49 and 18
> > years post. I'm hoping to make it to 80.
>
>
>
>


RE: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today

2013-09-18 Thread Joan Anglin
I also celebrate both, I figure that I have earned the right to have more
than one celebration per year. J I try very hard to live in a healthy manner
up to a point. There are certain things I'm not giving up, brandy, Rum,
wine, Margaritas, Irish whiskey, Kahlua,--oh, you guys were talking about
healthy living, let me see, darn, I can't think of anything. LOL.

I'm always reminded of the story of a little couple who were in their
nineties, really into organic food, working out, and generally living an
exemplary life with church and volunteering. On the way home from church one
day they were T-boned by a large truck and died on the scene. They
immediately found themselves in front of Saint Peter and the Pearly Gates,
who gave them a warm welcome an escorted them to their new home. He told the
husband that he knew he loved golf, so their new home was on a golf course.
The husband asks "what is this going to cost me" and Saint Peter replies
"nothing, you have earned this, you're in Heaven now".

The next morning the husband gets up, plays nine holes of golf and sits down
to a beautiful breakfast. Saint Peter comes to see how they are settling in,
and the husband asks "what is this going to cost me" and Saint Peter replies
"nothing, you have earned this, you're in Heaven now" the husband raises his
eyebrows but says nothing.

Later in the afternoon after a nice long nap, Saint Peter appears and asks
if they would like to go visit those who had gone before them. They eagerly
agreed and went outside to find a beautiful Mercedes convertible, lovely
sunshine, and of course the perfect amount of breeze to keep it cool. The
old man goes over to the car, checks out the leather seats, turns and asks
Saint Peter "what is this going to cost me"? Saint Peter replies "nothing,
you have earned this, you're in Heaven now". The old man turns to his wife,
kicks her in the butt and she falls down to her knees. She looks up at him
and says "what was that for?" The old man replies "If it wasn't for your
damn healthy food, and perfect life we could've been here many years ago".

Like others have said I'm going through those pearly gates yelling "WOW,
what a ride that was"!

I hope you all have a great day, and make somebody laugh as it's contagious.
Joan



Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today

2013-09-18 Thread Nan
I've been a quad since 1968 - 45 years and I am 61 years old.  Don't limit 
yourself ... take it day by day.  You might be surprised
at the number of years you have left!!

Dave Oc was a wonderful man.  I miss him!


 From: RONALD L PRACHT 
To: "quad-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today
 


I was told in 98 when I was 21 to expect to live 20 yrs past the point of 
injury. They told me this was good considering b4 ww2 people with spinal 
injuries lived about 2 yrs post. I realized this was probally bullshit at the 
time. How long a quad lives depends on so many factors its unreal. Realisticly, 
I believe if I do a good job with myself, I think for me being 21 at injury, 
c6-7, taking pretty good care of myselfI should reach 60 yrs 
old..40 yrs post injury b4 my death. There are so many things to get you as 
a quad thoughskin breakdown, pnemonia, blood clots, getting run over, 
caregiver abuse, depression, obesity, cancer, just plain bad luck.and 
1000 more. The main factor is at what age you receive your injury, obviously if 
your 50 when you get paralyzed your chances at living old are greater.I think 
Dave Occonnel was the poster child for quadom.he got it at 17 on a 
balance beam showing off for some
 girlshe was a teacher many years, then worked at some big company on 
computers forever, had a family, kids, housemany cars. I remember him 
telling me his first car was a 67 caddillac. He lived life, had plenty of love 
and took pretty good care of himself. I think he was 64 upon his passing.
 
Ron  

From: Dana Wray 
To: greg  
Cc: ""  
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today
 



Hi Greg,
So you celebrate your anniversary as your birthday? I guess I like to celebrate 
both occasions. Saw post on the Quad-list on Facebook about the oldest living 
Quadriplegic, 86 years I think.
Tried to click on it but there was no story about her.

Does anyone know her story?
Dana
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:11 PM, greg  wrote:


I'm 49 and 32 years post. I always feel like my birthday is my accident date 
now.
>Greg
>
>
>> Belated congratulations on your birthday. I myself am 49 and 18
>> years post. I'm hoping to make it to 80.

[QUAD-L] Non-UTI Problems Common with Urethral Catheters

2013-09-18 Thread KK Batte
http://www.renalandurologynews.com/non-uti-problems-common-with-urethral-catheters/article/311531/#

May cause bladder stones if  improperly inserted.

  

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today

2013-09-18 Thread Nan
I also celebrate both.

I saw that on Facebook too ... had to google it:  
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/a/165418/longest-living-quadriplegic-dies-one-month-before-85th-birthday/

Nan



 From: Dana Wray 
To: greg  
Cc: ""  
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today
 



Hi Greg,
So you celebrate your anniversary as your birthday? I guess I like to celebrate 
both occasions. Saw post on the Quad-list on Facebook about the oldest living 
Quadriplegic, 86 years I think.
Tried to click on it but there was no story about her.

Does anyone know her story?
Dana
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:11 PM, greg  wrote:


I'm 49 and 32 years post. I always feel like my birthday is my accident date 
now.
>Greg
>
>
>> Belated congratulations on your birthday. I myself am 49 and 18
>> years post. I'm hoping to make it to 80.

Re: [QUAD-L] Tilt Squeal

2013-09-18 Thread Nan
  Sounds like the actuator to me.  I've replaced 2 on my old, comfortable 
chair.  If your chair is still under warranty having it replaced shouldn't be 
an issue. 

Nan            



 From: greg 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:08 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Tilt Squeal
 


 
After I tilt back, as I am coming back up, my chair just squeals loudly. My 
helper tried spraying all the moving areas with WD40, but it made no 
difference. She said the noise was coming from the tilt motor. There is no way 
to get inside it to spray. Do you think it needs lubed some how, or could it be 
battery related? I know my ceiling lift squeals just like that when it's 
battery is going dead. But my chair is not dead. Though I know the chair has 2 
batteries. Not sure if 1 battery is for the driving and 1 for the tilt and 
reclining system. Or if they drain from both batteries together at the same 
time.
 
Do you think I need a new tilt motor or new batteries?
If it's batteries, it would probably cost me less to buy them myself at he 
battery store.
 
 
Thanks, Greg

Dave (was Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today)

2013-09-18 Thread Eric W Rudd
Dave worked at Honeywell.  Patty, his wife, was a sweetie, too.  
https://www.facebook.com/davegmail.oconnell

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: RONALD L PRACHT 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today


  I was told in 98 when I was 21 to expect to live 20 yrs past the point of 
injury. They told me this was good considering b4 ww2 people with spinal 
injuries lived about 2 yrs post. I realized this was probally bullshit at the 
time. How long a quad lives depends on so many factors its unreal. Realisticly, 
I believe if I do a good job with myself, I think for me being 21 at injury, 
c6-7, taking pretty good care of myselfI should reach 60 yrs 
old..40 yrs post injury b4 my death. There are so many things to get you as 
a quad thoughskin breakdown, pnemonia, blood clots, getting run over, 
caregiver abuse, depression, obesity, cancer, just plain bad luck.and 
1000 more. The main factor is at what age you receive your injury, obviously if 
your 50 when you get paralyzed your chances at living old are greater.I think 
Dave Occonnel was the poster child for quadom.he got it at 17 on a 
balance beam showing off for some girlshe was a teacher many years, 
then worked at some big company on computers forever, had a family, kids, 
housemany cars. I remember him telling me his first car was a 67 
caddillac. He lived life, had plenty of love and took pretty good care of 
himself. I think he was 64 upon his passing.

  Ron  


  From: Dana Wray 
  To: greg  
  Cc: ""  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today




  Hi Greg,
  So you celebrate your anniversary as your birthday? I guess I like to 
celebrate both occasions. Saw post on the Quad-list on Facebook about the 
oldest living Quadriplegic, 86 years I think.
  Tried to click on it but there was no story about her.


  Does anyone know her story?
  Dana
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:11 PM, greg  wrote:


I'm 49 and 32 years post. I always feel like my birthday is my accident 
date now.
Greg


> Belated congratulations on your birthday. I myself am 49 and 18
> years post. I'm hoping to make it to 80.




Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today

2013-09-18 Thread RONALD L PRACHT
I was told in 98 when I was 21 to expect to live 20 yrs past the point of 
injury. They told me this was good considering b4 ww2 people with spinal 
injuries lived about 2 yrs post. I realized this was probally bullshit at the 
time. How long a quad lives depends on so many factors its unreal. Realisticly, 
I believe if I do a good job with myself, I think for me being 21 at injury, 
c6-7, taking pretty good care of myselfI should reach 60 yrs 
old..40 yrs post injury b4 my death. There are so many things to get you as 
a quad thoughskin breakdown, pnemonia, blood clots, getting run over, 
caregiver abuse, depression, obesity, cancer, just plain bad luck.and 
1000 more. The main factor is at what age you receive your injury, obviously if 
your 50 when you get paralyzed your chances at living old are greater.I think 
Dave Occonnel was the poster child for quadom.he got it at 17 on a 
balance beam showing off for some
 girlshe was a teacher many years, then worked at some big company on 
computers forever, had a family, kids, housemany cars. I remember him 
telling me his first car was a 67 caddillac. He lived life, had plenty of love 
and took pretty good care of himself. I think he was 64 upon his passing.
 
Ron  
 


 From: Dana Wray 
To: greg  
Cc: ""  
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm 60 years old today
  



Hi Greg,
So you celebrate your anniversary as your birthday? I guess I like to celebrate 
both occasions. Saw post on the Quad-list on Facebook about the oldest living 
Quadriplegic, 86 years I think.
Tried to click on it but there was no story about her.

Does anyone know her story?
Dana
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:11 PM, greg  wrote:


I'm 49 and 32 years post. I always feel like my birthday is my accident date 
now. 
>Greg
>
> 
>> Belated congratulations on your birthday. I myself am 49 and 18 
>> years post. I'm hoping to make it to 80.