Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Jim Lubin
I agree Gail.

I remember when when WA passed the Death with Dignity Act, i.e.
assisted-suicide, I was contacted by a reporter who wanted my option as a
ventilator dependent quadriplegic and assumed I was against it.The reporter
said a person in my condition might be pressured to using it. I replied
that I was in favor of the Act. I think people should have the right to
decide. Also pointed out that the Act as signed into law in Washington
state would never apply to me in my condition. For one, you must be
suffering from a terminal disease and have less than six months to live,
which I am not. If I did ever end up suffering from a terminal disease, I
don't meet one of the other provisions that the patient must
self-administer the medication, which I am unable to do.

The reporter never replied to me.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Gail Overton  wrote:

> The decision to live is a personal one, and humans should not be
> criminalized for committing suicide if they choose. Everyone has different
> levels of disability and deals with them differently. In the wild, injured
> wolves are shunned by the pack. Humans say they are different, but should
> they be? Not everyone has a great support system and living can be more
> painful than dying in many cases. The right to death should be judged no
> more than the right to life.
>
>
>
> *From:* Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 5:53 PM
> *To:* Ben Mattlin; quad-list
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me
>
>
>
> The movie Whose Life Is It Anyway? [opened December 1981] starring Richard
> Dreyfuss is another movie. I watched it several years ago and still have
> it.  Plot below:
>
>
>
> *Whose Life Is It Anyway? *is a 1981 film adapted by Brian Clark
> 
>  and Reginald Rose
> 
>  from
> a 1972 television movie and Clark's play of the same title. The film is
> directed by John Badham
> 
>  and
> stars Richard Dreyfuss
> 
> .
> Plot
>
> After a car accident, sculptor Ken Harrison becomes a quadriplegic
> 
>  who
> sues for the right to end his life
> ,
> no longer able to create art, make love or have any semblance of a normal
> existence. He hires a lawyer (Bob Balaban
> )
> who, reluctantly at first, represents Harrison while knowing that he is
> trying to win his client a death sentence
> 
> .
>
> Staunchly opposed to euthanasia is a by-the-book hospital administrator (John
> Cassavetes
> ),
> who is determined to keep his patient alive even against his wishes, and
> sympathetic doctor (Christine

RE: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Gail Overton
The decision to live is a personal one, and humans should not be criminalized 
for committing suicide if they choose. Everyone has different levels of 
disability and deals with them differently. In the wild, injured wolves are 
shunned by the pack. Humans say they are different, but should they be? Not 
everyone has a great support system and living can be more painful than dying 
in many cases. The right to death should be judged no more than the right to 
life.

From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 5:53 PM
To: Ben Mattlin; quad-list
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

The movie Whose Life Is It Anyway? [opened December 1981] starring Richard 
Dreyfuss is another movie. I watched it several years ago and still have it.  
Plot below:


Whose Life Is It Anyway? is a 1981 film adapted by Brian 
Clark
 and Reginald 
Rose
 from a 1972 television movie and Clark's play of the same title. The film is 
directed by John 
Badham
 and stars Richard 
Dreyfuss.

Plot

After a car accident, sculptor Ken Harrison becomes a 
quadriplegic
 who sues for the right to end his 
life,
 no longer able to create art, make love or have any semblance of a normal 
existence. He hires a lawyer (Bob 
Balaban)
 who, reluctantly at first, represents Harrison while knowing that he is trying 
to win his client a death 
sentence.

Staunchly opposed to euthanasia is a by-the-book hospital administrator (John 
Cassavetes),
 who is determined to keep his patient alive even against his wishes, and 
sympathetic doctor (Christine 
Lahti),
 who develops personal feelings for Harrison. She wants to keep him alive, even 
though Harrison's girlfriend has accepted his decision.

A young orderly (Thomas 
Carter)
 and nurse (Kaki 
Hunter

RE: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Kay at Amplified Agility
Great question Ben!

 

 

From: Ben Mattlin [mailto:bmatt...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 3:27 PM
To: 'Jim Lubin'; 'Bobbie Humphreys'
Cc: 'Danny Hearn'; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

 

Yeah, but if you were sleeping with her, would you choose suicide?

 

 

From: jlu...@makoa.org [mailto:jlu...@makoa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Lubin
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:08 PM
To: Bobbie Humphreys
Cc: Ben Mattlin; Danny Hearn; Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

 

Looking forward to seeing "You Before Me". Love Emilia Clarke. :)

 

 

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Bobbie Humphreys  
wrote:

"You Before Me" opens June 3rd

Smile Everyday


On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ben Mattlin  wrote:

You all are aware of the controversy around "Me Before You," right?  It's no 
spoiler to say the quad decides he's too much of a burden on his girlfriend and 
"nobly" commits suicide.  The movie portrays this as a righteous and romantic 
sacrifice, a bold and loving choice.  Pretty offensive and potentially 
dangerous, if you ask me (which no one did).

 

__

BEN MATTLIN
www.BenMattlin.com

www.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com

 

From: Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 9:57 AM
To: Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie- Who's Driving Doug

 

Sounds like it may be a good movie Jim, have you guy's heard of the coming 
movie about a guy in a wheelchairI think it's called - You Before ME, the 
Band X Ambassadors do some  of the music for it, Anyhow I think it may be a 
good one also.   Dan H***

 

 

 



Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Lori Michaelson
The movie Whose Life Is It Anyway? [opened December 1981] starring Richard
Dreyfuss is another movie. I watched it several years ago and still have
it.  Plot below:

*Whose Life Is It Anyway? *is a 1981 film adapted by Brian Clark
 and Reginald Rose
 from a 1972 television movie
and Clark's play of the same title. The film is directed by John Badham
 and stars Richard Dreyfuss
.
Plot

After a car accident, sculptor Ken Harrison becomes a quadriplegic
 who sues for the right to end
his life , no longer able to
create art, make love or have any semblance of a normal existence. He hires
a lawyer (Bob Balaban ) who,
reluctantly at first, represents Harrison while knowing that he is trying
to win his client a death sentence
.

Staunchly opposed to euthanasia is a by-the-book hospital administrator (John
Cassavetes ), who is
determined to keep his patient alive even against his wishes, and
sympathetic doctor (Christine Lahti
), who develops personal
feelings for Harrison. She wants to keep him alive, even though Harrison's
girlfriend has accepted his decision.

A young orderly (Thomas Carter
) and nurse (Kaki
Hunter ) do what they can to
keep Harrison's spirits up, even wheeling him to a hospital basement where
they treat him to reggae music and marijuana. In the end, though, it is up
to a judge (Kenneth McMillan
) whether the
patient has a moral, ethical and legal right to choose to die.


Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Jim Lubin
Suicide would not be my choice. Just because the character in a fictional
story chooses to do so isn't going to change that.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Ben Mattlin  wrote:

> Yeah, but if you were sleeping with her, would you choose suicide?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* jlu...@makoa.org [mailto:jlu...@makoa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Lubin
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:08 PM
> *To:* Bobbie Humphreys
> *Cc:* Ben Mattlin; Danny Hearn; Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me
>
>
>
> Looking forward to seeing "You Before Me". Love Emilia Clarke. :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Bobbie Humphreys <
> bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "You Before Me" opens June 3rd
>
> Smile Everyday
>
>
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ben Mattlin  wrote:
>
> You all are aware of the controversy around "Me Before You," right?  It's
> no spoiler to say the quad decides he's too much of a burden on his
> girlfriend and "nobly" commits suicide.  The movie portrays this as a
> righteous and romantic sacrifice, a bold and loving choice.  Pretty
> offensive and potentially dangerous, if you ask me (which no one did).
>
>
>
> *__*
>
> *BEN MATTLIN*
> *www.BenMattlin.com *
>
> *www.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com *
>
>
>
> *From:* Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 9:57 AM
> *To:* Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie- Who's Driving Doug
>
>
>
> Sounds like it may be a good movie Jim, have you guy's heard of the coming
> movie about a guy in a wheelchairI think it's called - You Before ME,
> the Band X Ambassadors do some  of the music for it, Anyhow I think it may
> be a good one also.   Dan H***
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


RE: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Ben Mattlin
Yeah, but if you were sleeping with her, would you choose suicide?

 

 

From: jlu...@makoa.org [mailto:jlu...@makoa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Lubin
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:08 PM
To: Bobbie Humphreys
Cc: Ben Mattlin; Danny Hearn; Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

 

Looking forward to seeing "You Before Me". Love Emilia Clarke. :)

 

 

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Bobbie Humphreys  
wrote:

"You Before Me" opens June 3rd

Smile Everyday


On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ben Mattlin  wrote:

You all are aware of the controversy around "Me Before You," right?  It's no 
spoiler to say the quad decides he's too much of a burden on his girlfriend and 
"nobly" commits suicide.  The movie portrays this as a righteous and romantic 
sacrifice, a bold and loving choice.  Pretty offensive and potentially 
dangerous, if you ask me (which no one did).

 

__

BEN MATTLIN
www.BenMattlin.com

www.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com

 

From: Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 9:57 AM
To: Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie- Who's Driving Doug

 

Sounds like it may be a good movie Jim, have you guy's heard of the coming 
movie about a guy in a wheelchairI think it's called - You Before ME, the 
Band X Ambassadors do some  of the music for it, Anyhow I think it may be a 
good one also.   Dan H***

 

 

 



Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Jim Lubin
Looking forward to seeing "You Before Me". Love Emilia Clarke. :)


On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Bobbie Humphreys <
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "You Before Me" opens June 3rd
>
> Smile Everyday
>
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ben Mattlin  wrote:
>
> You all are aware of the controversy around "Me Before You," right?  It's
> no spoiler to say the quad decides he's too much of a burden on his
> girlfriend and "nobly" commits suicide.  The movie portrays this as a
> righteous and romantic sacrifice, a bold and loving choice.  Pretty
> offensive and potentially dangerous, if you ask me (which no one did).
>
>
>
> *__*
>
> *BEN MATTLIN*
> *www.BenMattlin.com *
>
> *www.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com *
>
>
>
> *From:* Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 9:57 AM
> *To:* Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie- Who's Driving Doug
>
>
>
> Sounds like it may be a good movie Jim, have you guy's heard of the coming
> movie about a guy in a wheelchairI think it's called - You Before ME,
> the Band X Ambassadors do some  of the music for it, Anyhow I think it may
> be a good one also.   Dan H***
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Bobbie Humphreys
"You Before Me" opens June 3rd

Smile Everyday

> On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Ben Mattlin  wrote:
> 
> You all are aware of the controversy around "Me Before You," right?  It's no 
> spoiler to say the quad decides he's too much of a burden on his girlfriend 
> and "nobly" commits suicide.  The movie portrays this as a righteous and 
> romantic sacrifice, a bold and loving choice.  Pretty offensive and 
> potentially dangerous, if you ask me (which no one did).
>  
> __
> BEN MATTLIN
> www.BenMattlin.com
> www.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com
>  
> From: Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 9:57 AM
> To: Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie- Who's Driving Doug
>  
> Sounds like it may be a good movie Jim, have you guy's heard of the coming 
> movie about a guy in a wheelchairI think it's called - You Before ME, the 
> Band X Ambassadors do some  of the music for it, Anyhow I think it may be a 
> good one also.   Dan H***
>  
> 
>  


Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread RONALD L PRACHT
I watched another quad movie called "The Sea Inside Me", where the guy gets 
paralyzed diving I believe and lives for 20years and its clearly seen as a 
burden to at least his brother, then he meets a woman that becomes his friend 
and eventually helps him commit suicide. Another movie that follows the same 
problem was "Million Dollar Baby", where Clint Eastwood pulls the plug on a 
girl that he trained to fight, her family was to worried about going to 
Disneyland to care.
Ron 

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 1:44 PM, Danny Hearn  wrote:
 

 No, I did not know much details about the movie Ben, thanks for the info.  Dan 
H** 

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 1:34 PM, Ben Mattlin  
wrote:
 

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{}#yiv8436753723 You all are aware of the controversy around "Me Before You," 
right?  It's no spoiler to say the quad decides he's too much of a burden on 
his girlfriend and "nobly" commits suicide.  The movie portrays this as a 
righteous and romantic sacrifice, a bold and loving choice.  Pretty offensive 
and potentially dangerous, if you ask me (which no one did).  
__BEN MATTLIN
www.BenMattlin.comwww.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com  From: Danny Hearn 
[mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 9:57 AM
To: Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie- Who's Driving Doug  Sounds like it may be a 
good movie Jim, have you guy's heard of the coming movie about a guy in a 
wheelchairI think it's called - You Before ME, the Band X Ambassadors do 
some  of the music for it, Anyhow I think it may be a good one also.   Dan H*** 
   

   

  

Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Johnny Cammon
Wow,,,That's what you before Me is about? I don't want
die..sterotype,,we are gonna hear backlash from this i
bet

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Danny Hearn  wrote:

> No, I did not know much details about the movie Ben, thanks for the info.
> Dan H**
>
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2016 1:34 PM, Ben Mattlin 
> wrote:
>
>
> You all are aware of the controversy around "Me Before You," right?  It's
> no spoiler to say the quad decides he's too much of a burden on his
> girlfriend and "nobly" commits suicide.  The movie portrays this as a
> righteous and romantic sacrifice, a bold and loving choice.  Pretty
> offensive and potentially dangerous, if you ask me (which no one did).
>
> *__*
> *BEN MATTLIN*
> *www.BenMattlin.com *
> *www.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com *
>
> *From:* Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 9:57 AM
> *To:* Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie- Who's Driving Doug
>
> Sounds like it may be a good movie Jim, have you guy's heard of the coming
> movie about a guy in a wheelchairI think it's called - You Before ME,
> the Band X Ambassadors do some  of the music for it, Anyhow I think it may
> be a good one also.   Dan H***
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Danny Hearn
No, I did not know much details about the movie Ben, thanks for the info.  Dan 
H** 

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 1:34 PM, Ben Mattlin  
wrote:
 

 You all are aware of 
the controversy around "Me Before You," right?  It's no spoiler to say the quad 
decides he's too much of a burden on his girlfriend and "nobly" commits 
suicide.  The movie portrays this as a righteous and romantic sacrifice, a bold 
and loving choice.  Pretty offensive and potentially dangerous, if you ask me 
(which no one did).  __BEN MATTLIN
www.BenMattlin.comwww.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com  From: Danny Hearn 
[mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 9:57 AM
To: Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie- Who's Driving Doug  Sounds like it may be a 
good movie Jim, have you guy's heard of the coming movie about a guy in a 
wheelchairI think it's called - You Before ME, the Band X Ambassadors do 
some  of the music for it, Anyhow I think it may be a good one also.   Dan H*** 
   

  

RE: [QUAD-L] quad movie-You Before Me

2016-06-02 Thread Ben Mattlin
You all are aware of the controversy around "Me Before You," right?  It's no 
spoiler to say the quad decides he's too much of a burden on his girlfriend and 
"nobly" commits suicide.  The movie portrays this as a righteous and romantic 
sacrifice, a bold and loving choice.  Pretty offensive and potentially 
dangerous, if you ask me (which no one did).

 

__

BEN MATTLIN
www.BenMattlin.com

www.MiracleBoyGrowsUp.com

 

From: Danny Hearn [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 9:57 AM
To: Jim Lubin; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie- Who's Driving Doug

 

Sounds like it may be a good movie Jim, have you guy's heard of the coming 
movie about a guy in a wheelchairI think it's called - You Before ME, the 
Band X Ambassadors do some  of the music for it, Anyhow I think it may be a 
good one also.   Dan H***

 

 



Re: [QUAD-L] quad movie- Who's Driving Doug

2016-06-02 Thread Danny Hearn
Sounds like it may be a good movie Jim, have you guy's heard of the coming 
movie about a guy in a wheelchairI think it's called - You Before ME, the 
Band X Ambassadors do some  of the music for it, Anyhow I think it may be a 
good one also.   Dan H*** 

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 12:15 AM, Jim Lubin  wrote:
 

 I thought it was good. It's on netflix
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3733606/?ref_=nv_sr_1