Re: [QUAD-L] Worth believing & fighting for
Nope, not an A-THEIST. Just an investigator of/in 'how people think." Lor ---Original Message--- From: Silas Date: 11/18/05 14:17:31 To: Lori Michaelson; Quad Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Worth believing & fighting for Hello Lori, Just curious, are you a Atheist? Seem like anytime sombody sends a post about God or prayers you get your feathers ruffled. Silas - Original Message - From: Lori Michaelson To: Quad Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Worth believing & fighting for I really meant to quote this: "This I believe:That the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in the world. And this I would fight for: The freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: Any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys the individual." -- John Steinbeck Lori Michaelson Age - 41 C4/5 complete quad, 26 years post Tucson, AZ ---Original Message--- From: Aaron Mann Date: 11/17/05 06:44:40 To: Lori Michaelson; Quad Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Fw: Prayer-It's a good thing But, if we do not fight for the religious beliefs upon which your freedom of thought come from, then we'll die standing still. I'd rather have the long run with the possibility of doing good. I agree with most of the views in the chain-mail below. In other words, I fight for keeping us free through maintaining what set us free. And, for what allows you to stand for freedom of thought. From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:29 PMTo: QuadSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fw: Prayer-It's a good thing *I* stand for FREEDOM OF THOUGHT. If we keep fighting over religion and thought ... we're killing ourselves in the long run. "A man's ethical and moral behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is absolute and necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." -- Albert Einstein ---Original Message--- Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: Prayer-It's a good thing This Pastor has guts!!Thought you might enjoy this interesting prayer given in Kansas at theopening session of their Senate. It seems prayer still upsets some people.When Minister Joe Wright was asked to open the new session of the KansasSenate, everyone was expecting the usual generalities, but this is whatthey heard:"Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and toseek your direction and guidance.We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that isexactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium andreversed our values.We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.We have killed our unborn and called it choice.We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building selfesteem.We have abused power and called it politics.We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition.We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called itfreedom of _expression_.We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called itenlightenment.Search us, Oh, God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sinand set us free. Amen!"The response was immediate.A number of legislators walked out during the prayer in protest.In 6 short weeks, Central Christian Church, where Rev. Wright is pastor,logged more than 5,000 phone calls with only 47 of those calls respondingnegatively.The church is now receiving international requests for copies of thisprayer from India , Africa and Korea.Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his radio program, "The Restof the Story," and received a larger response to this program than anyother he has ever aired.With the LORD' s help, may this prayer sweep over our nation andwholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called "onenation under God."If possible, please pass this prayer on to your friends. "If you don'tstand for something, you will fall for everything."If you forward this prayer to everyone on your e-mail list, in less than 30days it would be heard by the world. How many people in your address bookwill not receive this prayer.do you have the COURAGE to pass it on?"If you hold to my teachings, you are really my disciples. Then you willknow the truth and the truth will set you free." John 8:31-32 Find e-mail, documents and more on your PC instantly with Windows Desktop Search–FREE!
Re: [QUAD-L] Worth believing & fighting for
"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are." ~ Anais NinLori Michaelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I really meant to quote this: "This I believe:That the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in the world. And this I would fight for: The freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: Any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys the individual." -- John Steinbeck Lori Michaelson Age - 41 C4/5 complete quad, 26 years post Tucson, AZ ---Original Message--- From: Aaron Mann Date: 11/17/05 06:44:40 To: Lori Michaelson; Quad Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Fw: Prayer-It's a good thing But, if we do not fight for the religious beliefs upon which your freedom of thought come from, then we'll die standing still. I'd rather have the long run with the possibility of doing good. I agree with most of the views in the chain-mail below. In other words, I fight for keeping us free through maintaining what set us free. And, for what allows you to stand for freedom of thought. From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:29 PMTo: QuadSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fw: Prayer-It's a good thing *I* stand for FREEDOM OF THOUGHT. If we keep fighting over religion and thought ... we're killing ourselves in the long run. "A man's ethical and moral behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is absolute and necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." -- Albert Einstein ---Original Message--- Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: Prayer-It's a good thing This Pastor has guts!!Thought you might enjoy this interesting prayer given in Kansas at theopening session of their Senate. It seems prayer still upsets some people.When Minister Joe Wright was asked to open the new session of the KansasSenate, everyone was expecting the usual generalities, but this is whatthey heard:"Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and toseek your direction and guidance.We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that isexactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium andreversed our values.We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.We have killed our unborn and called it choice.We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building selfesteem.We have abused power and called it politics.We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition.We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called itfreedom of _expression_.We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called itenlightenment.Search us, Oh, God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sinand set us free. Amen!"The response was immediate.A number of legislators walked out during the prayer in protest.In 6 short weeks, Central Christian Church, where Rev. Wright is pastor,logged more than 5,000 phone calls with only 47 of those calls respondingnegatively.The church is now receiving international requests for copies of thisprayer from India , Africa and Korea.Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his radio program, "The Restof the Story," and received a larger response to this program than anyother he has ever aired.With the LO! RD' s help, may this prayer sweep over our nation andwholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called "onenation under God."If possible, please pass this prayer on to your friends. "If you don'tstand for something, you will fall for everything."If you forward this prayer to everyone on your e-mail list, in less than 30days it would be heard by the world. How many people in your address bookwill not receive this prayer.do you have the COURAGE to pass it on?"If you hold to my teachings, you are really my disciples. Then you willknow the truth and the truth will set you free." John 8:31-32 Find e-mail, documents and more on your PC instantly with Windows Desktop SearchFREE!
Re: [QUAD-L] Worth believing & fighting for
Hello Lori, Just curious, are you a Atheist? Seem like anytime sombody sends a post about God or prayers you get your feathers ruffled. Silas - Original Message - From: Lori Michaelson To: Quad Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Worth believing & fighting for I really meant to quote this: "This I believe:That the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in the world. And this I would fight for: The freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: Any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys the individual." -- John Steinbeck Lori Michaelson Age - 41 C4/5 complete quad, 26 years post Tucson, AZ ---Original Message--- From: Aaron Mann Date: 11/17/05 06:44:40 To: Lori Michaelson; Quad Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Fw: Prayer-It's a good thing But, if we do not fight for the religious beliefs upon which your freedom of thought come from, then we'll die standing still. I'd rather have the long run with the possibility of doing good. I agree with most of the views in the chain-mail below. In other words, I fight for keeping us free through maintaining what set us free. And, for what allows you to stand for freedom of thought. From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:29 PMTo: QuadSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fw: Prayer-It's a good thing *I* stand for FREEDOM OF THOUGHT. If we keep fighting over religion and thought ... we're killing ourselves in the long run. "A man's ethical and moral behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is absolute and necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." -- Albert Einstein ---Original Message--- Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: Prayer-It's a good thing This Pastor has guts!!Thought you might enjoy this interesting prayer given in Kansas at theopening session of their Senate. It seems prayer still upsets some people.When Minister Joe Wright was asked to open the new session of the KansasSenate, everyone was expecting the usual generalities, but this is whatthey heard:"Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and toseek your direction and guidance.We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that isexactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium andreversed our values.We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.We have killed our unborn and called it choice.We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building selfesteem.We have abused power and called it politics.We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition.We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called itfreedom of _expression_.We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called itenlightenment.Search us, Oh, God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sinand set us free. Amen!"The response was immediate.A number of legislators walked out during the prayer in protest.In 6 short weeks, Central Christian Church, where Rev. Wright is pastor,logged more than 5,000 phone calls with only 47 of those calls respondingnegatively.The church is now receiving international requests for copies of thisprayer from India , Af
[QUAD-L] Worth believing & fighting for
I really meant to quote this: "This I believe:That the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in the world. And this I would fight for: The freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: Any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys the individual." -- John Steinbeck Lori Michaelson Age - 41 C4/5 complete quad, 26 years post Tucson, AZ ---Original Message--- From: Aaron Mann Date: 11/17/05 06:44:40 To: Lori Michaelson; Quad Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Fw: Prayer-It's a good thing But, if we do not fight for the religious beliefs upon which your freedom of thought come from, then we'll die standing still. I'd rather have the long run with the possibility of doing good. I agree with most of the views in the chain-mail below. In other words, I fight for keeping us free through maintaining what set us free. And, for what allows you to stand for freedom of thought. From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:29 PMTo: QuadSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fw: Prayer-It's a good thing *I* stand for FREEDOM OF THOUGHT. If we keep fighting over religion and thought ... we're killing ourselves in the long run. "A man's ethical and moral behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is absolute and necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." -- Albert Einstein ---Original Message--- Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: Prayer-It's a good thing This Pastor has guts!!Thought you might enjoy this interesting prayer given in Kansas at theopening session of their Senate. It seems prayer still upsets some people.When Minister Joe Wright was asked to open the new session of the KansasSenate, everyone was expecting the usual generalities, but this is whatthey heard:"Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and toseek your direction and guidance.We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that isexactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium andreversed our values.We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.We have killed our unborn and called it choice.We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building selfesteem.We have abused power and called it politics.We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition.We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called itfreedom of _expression_.We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called itenlightenment.Search us, Oh, God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sinand set us free. Amen!"The response was immediate.A number of legislators walked out during the prayer in protest.In 6 short weeks, Central Christian Church, where Rev. Wright is pastor,logged more than 5,000 phone calls with only 47 of those calls respondingnegatively.The church is now receiving international requests for copies of thisprayer from India , Africa and Korea.Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his radio program, "The Restof the Story," and received a larger response to this program than anyother he has ever aired.With the LORD' s help, may this prayer sweep over our nation andwholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called "onenation under God."If possible, please pass this prayer on to your friends. "If you don'tstand for something, you will fall for everything."If you forward this prayer to everyone on your e-mail list, in less than 30days it would be heard by the world. How many people in your address bookwill not receive this prayer.do you have the COURAGE to pass it on?"If you hold to my teachings, you are really my disciples. Then you willknow the truth and the truth will set you free." John 8:31-32 Find e-mail, documents and more on your PC instantly with Windows Desktop Search–FREE!
