Re: FW: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey
You silver toungued devil. you can make anything sound all Christmassey. --- On Thu, 12/18/08, dav...@aol.com wrote: From: dav...@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 1:42 PM Right on W. I really worry that info about how devastating and degrading an SCI can be might actually get out. How it kept from being the butt kicking super athelete, wall street guru, or all around good father I would have otherwise been. I dread thinking people might find out about catheters, bed pans, bowel programs, endless pains and aches, frustrations of inadequacy, dependence, shortened life spans, bed sores, deformed bodies and depression. I would just hate it if people stole these questionnaires and flooded the populace with our answers to "just exactly how screwed up is your life because of SCI". Excuse me while I go close my drapers - the sight of the sky falling really depresses me unnecessarily. AZDAVE Take the world in a love embrace Fire all of your guns at once And explode into space DAVEOCONNELL.COM In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:27:50 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, wheelchair writes: And what happened to your surveys after school? What assurance do you have that online surveys will be destroyed in the same fashion. Especially in today's secured and unsecured internet market. Just ask any bank, credit card company or retailer that had their system breached. Consider those Gov Agencies who had their computers stolen and lost records. In hospital studies, or clinical surveys offer a better safe support. The internet people can't warranty the same. Best Wishes In a message dated 12/17/2008 12:22:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, dav...@aol.com writes: ditto. I was in college once doing my own surveys. having 'real' people responses would have been great - I used other students. Take the world in a love embrace Fire all of your guns at once And explode into space DAVEOCONNELL.COM In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:10:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, merril...@cox.net writes: People I had done surveys for usually contacted me to thank me personally. Perhaps it is a college paper or other assignment that someone is working on, right, who knows, but they are done and people seem to really appreciate my time to help. What do I get out of it mentality is legitimate but look, someone has an interest and simply requesting help. mb From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:36 PM To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com ; jster...@ithaca.edu Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to actually take part in these type of surveys. Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have filled out one too many. Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the same manner for the same purpose. I DO understand that you, in your here and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca ) and it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. Or, more importantly, it made them feel like they were doing something "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my injury, and in rehab afterward - I had m
Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey
I just remembered something. About two or three years ago I was somehow contacted (can't remember the specifics) by someone doing a survey on the local hospitals here in Tucson. A *phone* survey. And everyone else taking the survey (there were about 5 others than myself - all women who had been in the hospital as an inpatient or outpatient within a certain timeframe) could all hear what everybody else was saying in response to the questions posed -- or one could make commentary on their personal experiences in the local hospitals. And we were all to be compensated (about $75 I think it was) to take part in this phone survey which took about two hours with six or seven women talking! LOL. Anyhow, it became clear that the surveyor was a representative of our "Northwest Hospitals" (and at the end of the survey she- *the surveyor* told us that) and therefore trying to get firsthand experience and answers about *their* 2 hospitals in the area compared to the other hospitals in the area (I think there are about seven or eight total hospitals in Tucson -- right Tod?). Beforehand, we were all mailed information packets about the survey and what to expect, etc.. Then we all got together for the Roundtable survey using conference calling. I can't remember what they were going to do with their results. But I DO remember that I waited weeks or longer to get a check in the mail from them. Ultimately,* I had to call them to get it to me (the money as promised for participating).* Something I just forgot. Lori On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:55 PM, wrote: > Amen, Amen, Amen Lori! LOL > > We have a very conservative Baptist College down the road from us. Each > Spring the graduating students are required to go out into the community and > go door to door and practice their beliefs and share it with others. Over > the years, we know our door will be knocked on several times and we are > always prepared. > After 30 years of this, nothing has changed. The students come and go and > we can always expect that knock on the door next spring. > > Now the "Monkey Survey" got to me too as I could not imagine any crip > falling for the "monkey thing." > But then I'm a big supporter of Pay for Play and Surveys. Some states have > right to work laws... Illinois has "Pay to Play" laws, if you get my drift. > Once you have been paid to do a survey, giving it away seems > senseless Or is that me again, lol. > > Best Wishes > > In a message dated 12/15/2008 5:36:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, > lorilivin...@gmail.com writes: > > Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. > Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to > actually take part in these type of surveys. > > Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" > surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. > The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the > questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of > them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of > the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like > "test rats." I have filled out one too many. > > Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the > same manner for the same purpose. I *DO* understand that you, in *your*here > and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there > on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. > Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca) and > it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything > surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding > it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, > it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. > Or, more importantly, it made them feel like *they* were doing something > "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. > > These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have > never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as > surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was > once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to > survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I > was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. > > OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than > those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my injury, and in rehab > afterward - I had many OTs. Of all the therapists out there - I have found > them to be narrowminded and "one-size-fits-all." PTs are great but single > OT I had -- thought that if one particular piece of adaptive equipment > worked for one disabled person - it would certainly work for others. And > they were all very "pushy."
Re: FW: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey
Right on W. I really worry that info about how devastating and degrading an SCI can be might actually get out. How it kept from being the butt kicking super athelete, wall street guru, or all around good father I would have otherwise been. I dread thinking people might find out about catheters, bed pans, bowel programs, endless pains and aches, frustrations of inadequacy, dependence, shortened life spans, bed sores, deformed bodies and depression. I would just hate it if people stole these questionnaires and flooded the populace with our answers to "just exactly how screwed up is your life because of SCI". Excuse me while I go close my drapers - the sight of the sky falling really depresses me unnecessarily. AZDAVE Take the world in a love embrace Fire all of your guns at once And explode into space _DAVEOCONNELL.COM_ (http://daveoconnell.com/) In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:27:50 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, wheelchair writes: And what happened to your surveys after school? What assurance do you have that online surveys will be destroyed in the same fashion. Especially in today's secured and unsecured internet market. Just ask any bank, credit card company or retailer that had their system breached. Consider those Gov Agencies who had their computers stolen and lost records. In hospital studies, or clinical surveys offer a better safe support. The internet people can't warranty the same. Best Wishes In a message dated 12/17/2008 12:22:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, dav...@aol.com writes: ditto. I was in college once doing my own surveys. having 'real' people responses would have been great - I used other students. Take the world in a love embrace Fire all of your guns at once And explode into space _DAVEOCONNELL.COM_ (http://daveoconnell.com/) In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:10:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, merril...@cox.net writes: People I had done surveys for usually contacted me to thank me personally. Perhaps it is a college paper or other assignment that someone is working on, right, who knows, but they are done and people seem to really appreciate my time to help. What do I get out of it mentality is legitimate but look, someone has an interest and simply requesting help. mb From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:36 PM To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com; jster...@ithaca.edu Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to actually take part in these type of surveys. Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have filled out one too many. Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the same manner for the same purpose. I DO understand that you, in your here and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca) and it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. Or, more importantly, it made them feel like they were doing something "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my injury, and in rehab afterward - I had many OTs. Of all the therapists out there - I have found them to be narrowminded and "one-size-fits-
RE: FW: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey
A well done survey measures change over time so it may take several or many years before you see a trend. Dan At 02:14 PM 12/17/2008, Steve Oldaker said something that elicited my response: My take on the vast majority of these SCI/disability related surveys is they generally result in an extreme grasp of the obvious, i.e. people with SCIs/disabilities tend to have lower incomes, higher unemployment, more physical/pain/health issues, less sex, etc. How revealing not. Steve From: Dan [mailto:d...@unh.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 2:03 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey Surveys don't usually ask for any type of personal info (outside of the usual - age, geographical area, etc.). If they keep the results, who cares. I too went to college and did my share of surveys. It's a part of many disciplines. Those who are uncomfortable doing surveys, don't have to do them. But to think that somehow the results are going to be used in a negative way or will hurt us is silly. And why demonize those that send out these surveys? Dan At 01:27 PM 12/17/2008, wheelch...@aol.com said something that elicited my response: And what happened to your surveys after school? What assurance do you have that online surveys will be destroyed in the same fashion. Especially in today's secured and unsecured internet market. Just ask any bank, credit card company or retailer that had their system breached. Consider those Gov Agencies who had their computers stolen and lost records. In hospital studies, or clinical surveys offer a better safe support. The internet people can't warranty the same. Best Wishes In a message dated 12/17/2008 12:22:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, dav...@aol.com writes: ditto. I was in college once doing my own surveys. having 'real' people responses would have been great - I used other students. Take the world in a love embrace Fire all of your guns at once And explode into space <http://daveoconnell.com/>DAVEOCONNELL.COM In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:10:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, merril...@cox.net writes: People I had done surveys for usually contacted me to thank me personally. Perhaps it is a college paper or other assignment that someone is working on, right, who knows, but they are done and people seem to really appreciate my time to help. What do I get out of it mentality is legitimate but look, someone has an interest and simply requesting help. mb -- From: Lori Michaelson [ mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:36 PM To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com; jster...@ithaca.edu Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to actually take part in these type of surveys. Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have filled out one too many. Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the same manner for the same purpose. I DO understand that you, in your here and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca) and it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. Or, more importantly, it made them feel like they were doing something "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my i
Re: FW: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey
I would encourage anyone who wanted to complete a/the survey to do so. And if one chose not to, that was ok too. Best Wishes In a message dated 12/17/2008 1:03:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, d...@unh.edu writes: Surveys don't usually ask for any type of personal info (outside of the usual - age, geographical area, etc.). If they keep the results, who cares. I too went to college and did my share of surveys. It's a part of many disciplines. Those who are uncomfortable doing surveys, don't have to do them. But to think that somehow the results are going to be used in a negative way or will hurt us is silly. And why demonize those that send out these surveys? Dan At 01:27 PM 12/17/2008, wheelch...@aol.com said something that elicited my response: And what happened to your surveys after school? What assurance do you have that online surveys will be destroyed in the same fashion. Especially in today's secured and unsecured internet market. Just ask any bank, credit card company or retailer that had their system breached. Consider those Gov Agencies who had their computers stolen and lost records. In hospital studies, or clinical surveys offer a better safe support. The internet people can't warranty the same. Best Wishes In a message dated 12/17/2008 12:22:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, dav...@aol.com writes: ditto. I was in college once doing my own surveys. having 'real' people responses would have been great - I used other students. Take the world in a love embrace Fire all of your guns at once And explode into space _DAVEOCONNELL.COM_ (http://daveoconnell.com/) In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:10:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, merril...@cox.net writes: People I had done surveys for usually contacted me to thank me personally. Perhaps it is a college paper or other assignment that someone is working on, right, who knows, but they are done and people seem to really appreciate my time to help. What do I get out of it mentality is legitimate but look, someone has an interest and simply requesting help. mb From: Lori Michaelson [_ mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com_ (mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com) ] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:36 PM To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com; jster...@ithaca.edu Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to actually take part in these type of surveys. Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have filled out one too many. Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the same manner for the same purpose. I DO understand that you, in your here and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca) and it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. Or, more importantly, it made them feel like they were doing something "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my injury, and in rehab afterward - I had many OTs. Of all the therapists out there - I have found them to be narrowminded and "one-size-fits-all." PTs are great but single OT I had -- thought that if one particular piece of adaptive equipment worked for one disabled person - it would cer
Re: FW: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey
Surveys don't usually ask for any type of personal info (outside of the usual - age, geographical area, etc.). If they keep the results, who cares. I too went to college and did my share of surveys. It's a part of many disciplines. Those who are uncomfortable doing surveys, don't have to do them. But to think that somehow the results are going to be used in a negative way or will hurt us is silly. And why demonize those that send out these surveys? Dan At 01:27 PM 12/17/2008, wheelch...@aol.com said something that elicited my response: And what happened to your surveys after school? What assurance do you have that online surveys will be destroyed in the same fashion. Especially in today's secured and unsecured internet market. Just ask any bank, credit card company or retailer that had their system breached. Consider those Gov Agencies who had their computers stolen and lost records. In hospital studies, or clinical surveys offer a better safe support. The internet people can't warranty the same. Best Wishes In a message dated 12/17/2008 12:22:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, dav...@aol.com writes: ditto. I was in college once doing my own surveys. having 'real' people responses would have been great - I used other students. Take the world in a love embrace Fire all of your guns at once And explode into space <http://daveoconnell.com/>DAVEOCONNELL.COM In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:10:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, merril...@cox.net writes: People I had done surveys for usually contacted me to thank me personally. Perhaps it is a college paper or other assignment that someone is working on, right, who knows, but they are done and people seem to really appreciate my time to help. What do I get out of it mentality is legitimate but look, someone has an interest and simply requesting help. mb -- From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:36 PM To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com; jster...@ithaca.edu Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to actually take part in these type of surveys. Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have filled out one too many. Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the same manner for the same purpose. I DO understand that you, in your here and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca) and it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. Or, more importantly, it made them feel like they were doing something "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my injury, and in rehab afterward - I had many OTs. Of all the therapists out there - I have found them to be narrowminded and "one-size-fits-all." PTs are great but single OT I had -- thought that if one particular piece of adaptive equipment worked for one disabled person - it would certainly work for others. And they were all very "pushy." Also, I take offense (and I think others would as well) to have you telling us what to do if we feel we are uncomfortable at any point in filling out the survey. Now that takes the cake! As if we would not know what to do - which would be to just that - stop. But that is another co
Re: FW: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey
And what happened to your surveys after school? What assurance do you have that online surveys will be destroyed in the same fashion. Especially in today's secured and unsecured internet market. Just ask any bank, credit card company or retailer that had their system breached. Consider those Gov Agencies who had their computers stolen and lost records. In hospital studies, or clinical surveys offer a better safe support. The internet people can't warranty the same. Best Wishes In a message dated 12/17/2008 12:22:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, dav...@aol.com writes: ditto. I was in college once doing my own surveys. having 'real' people responses would have been great - I used other students. Take the world in a love embrace Fire all of your guns at once And explode into space _DAVEOCONNELL.COM_ (http://daveoconnell.com/) In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:10:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, merril...@cox.net writes: People I had done surveys for usually contacted me to thank me personally. Perhaps it is a college paper or other assignment that someone is working on, right, who knows, but they are done and people seem to really appreciate my time to help. What do I get out of it mentality is legitimate but look, someone has an interest and simply requesting help. mb From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:36 PM To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com; jster...@ithaca.edu Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to actually take part in these type of surveys. Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have filled out one too many. Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the same manner for the same purpose. I DO understand that you, in your here and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca) and it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. Or, more importantly, it made them feel like they were doing something "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my injury, and in rehab afterward - I had many OTs. Of all the therapists out there - I have found them to be narrowminded and "one-size-fits-all." PTs are great but single OT I had -- thought that if one particular piece of adaptive equipment worked for one disabled person - it would certainly work for others. And they were all very "pushy." Also, I take offense (and I think others would as well) to have you telling us what to do if we feel we are uncomfortable at any point in filling out the survey. Now that takes the cake! As if we would not know what to do - which would be to just that - stop. But that is another common character trait of OTs - TELL people how and when to do things. Sorry I sound so abrasive but it is really more than my opinion - it is fact from personal experience. Anyway, as an individual and not a surveyor -- have a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year! Lori On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:36 PM, <_wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) > wrote: Hi Julia, Not trying to be disrespectful, but what'
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ditto. I was in college once doing my own surveys. having 'real' people responses would have been great - I used other students. Take the world in a love embrace Fire all of your guns at once And explode into space _DAVEOCONNELL.COM_ (http://daveoconnell.com/) In a message dated 12/17/2008 11:10:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, merril...@cox.net writes: People I had done surveys for usually contacted me to thank me personally. Perhaps it is a college paper or other assignment that someone is working on, right, who knows, but they are done and people seem to really appreciate my time to help. What do I get out of it mentality is legitimate but look, someone has an interest and simply requesting help. mb From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:36 PM To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com; jster...@ithaca.edu Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to actually take part in these type of surveys. Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have filled out one too many. Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the same manner for the same purpose. I DO understand that you, in your here and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca) and it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. Or, more importantly, it made them feel like they were doing something "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my injury, and in rehab afterward - I had many OTs. Of all the therapists out there - I have found them to be narrowminded and "one-size-fits-all." PTs are great but single OT I had -- thought that if one particular piece of adaptive equipment worked for one disabled person - it would certainly work for others. And they were all very "pushy." Also, I take offense (and I think others would as well) to have you telling us what to do if we feel we are uncomfortable at any point in filling out the survey. Now that takes the cake! As if we would not know what to do - which would be to just that - stop. But that is another common character trait of OTs - TELL people how and when to do things. Sorry I sound so abrasive but it is really more than my opinion - it is fact from personal experience. Anyway, as an individual and not a surveyor -- have a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year! Lori On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:36 PM, <_wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) > wrote: Hi Julia, Not trying to be disrespectful, but what's in it for the members here? You want valuable info without compensation? You and those you represent will benefit with a grant or study money and those who complete the survey, receive nothing. Nada. Getting something in return like coupons for McDonalds or making a contribution to the host of the Quad List for his expenses. Its called, pay for play or.. credible facts. Best Wishes W In a message dated 12/13/2008 5:43:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, _jster...@ithaca.edu_ (mailto:jster...@ithaca.edu) writes: Hello, My name is Julia Sterman. I
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People I had done surveys for usually contacted me to thank me personally. Perhaps it is a college paper or other assignment that someone is working on, right, who knows, but they are done and people seem to really appreciate my time to help. What do I get out of it mentality is legitimate but look, someone has an interest and simply requesting help. mb _ From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:36 PM To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com; jster...@ithaca.edu Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to actually take part in these type of surveys. Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have filled out one too many. Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the same manner for the same purpose. I DO understand that you, in your here and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca) and it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. Or, more importantly, it made them feel like they were doing something "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my injury, and in rehab afterward - I had many OTs. Of all the therapists out there - I have found them to be narrowminded and "one-size-fits-all." PTs are great but single OT I had -- thought that if one particular piece of adaptive equipment worked for one disabled person - it would certainly work for others. And they were all very "pushy." Also, I take offense (and I think others would as well) to have you telling us what to do if we feel we are uncomfortable at any point in filling out the survey. Now that takes the cake! As if we would not know what to do - which would be to just that - stop. But that is another common character trait of OTs - TELL people how and when to do things. Sorry I sound so abrasive but it is really more than my opinion - it is fact from personal experience. Anyway, as an individual and not a surveyor -- have a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year! Lori On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:36 PM, wrote: Hi Julia, Not trying to be disrespectful, but what's in it for the members here? You want valuable info without compensation? You and those you represent will benefit with a grant or study money and those who complete the survey, receive nothing. Nada. Getting something in return like coupons for McDonalds or making a contribution to the host of the Quad List for his expenses. Its called, pay for play or.. credible facts. Best Wishes W In a message dated 12/13/2008 5:43:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, jster...@ithaca.edu writes: Hello, My name is Julia Sterman. I am a graduate student in Occupational Therapy at Ithaca College in Ithaca, NY. I am currently working on my thesis project, which will investigate traumatic injury and its impact on meaningful activities. After reading this letter you will be given the opportunity to complete an online survey regarding your participation in meaningful activities following your injury. This survey should take approximately 10 minutes to complete. I am looking for individuals who are over the age of 18 and have had a traumatic physical injury between one (1) and five (5) years ago. Due to the support groups contacted, most participants will have amputations, burns, or spinal co
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Well you are not far from the truth either. Did you read recently that Alaska and North Dakota beat us out as more corrupt? So did DC, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana and Kentucky. Goes to prove that it ain't easy to be the bestest mostest corruptist state in the country. But we try harder! (lol) Best Wishes In a message dated 12/15/2008 8:21:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, sant...@cox.net writes: Ya know, W... anyone watching the news lately, or SNL for that matter, is beginning to understand Illinois "Pay to Play" situation. Best, Tod wheelch...@aol.com wrote: > Amen, Amen, Amen Lori! LOL > > But then I'm a big supporter of Pay for Play and Surveys. Some states have > right to work laws... Illinois has "Pay to Play" laws, if you get my drift. > Once you have been paid to do a survey, giving it away seems > senseless Or is that me again, lol. > > Best Wishes > > > In a message dated 12/15/2008 5:36:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, > lorilivin...@gmail.com writes: > > Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or > have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to > actually take part in these type of surveys. > > > Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys > of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The > results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions > posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The > questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most > surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have > filled out one too many. > > > Sorry I sound so abrasive but it is really more than my opinion - it is fact > from personal experience. > > Anyway, as an individual and not a surveyor -- have a Merry Christmas and a > prosperous new year! > > Lori > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:36 PM, <_wheelch...@aol.com_ > (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) > wrote: > > > Hi Julia, > Not trying to be disrespectful, but what's in it for the members here? You > want valuable info without > compensation? You and those you represent will benefit with a grant or > study money and those who complete the survey, receive nothing. Nada. > Getting something in return like coupons for McDonalds or making a > contribution to the host of the > Quad List for his expenses. Its called, pay for play or.. credible > facts. > > Best Wishes > W > > > > > > In a message dated 12/13/2008 5:43:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, > _jster...@ithaca.edu_ (mailto:jster...@ithaca.edu) writes: > > Hello, > > My name is Julia Sterman. I am a graduate student in Occupational > Therapy at Ithaca College in Ithaca, NY. I am currently working on my > thesis project, which will investigate traumatic injury and its > impact on meaningful activities. After reading this letter you will > be given the opportunity to complete an online survey regarding your > participation in meaningful activities following your injury. This > survey should take approximately 10 minutes to complete. > > I am looking for individuals who are over the age of 18 and have had > a traumatic physical injury between one (1) and five (5) years ago. > Due to the support groups contacted, most participants will have > amputations, burns, or spinal cord injuries, but you can still > participate if you have other types of traumatic injury. You do not > need to have received occupational therapy to participate. Those who > have been diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury or severe > intellectual disability are not included in this survey. > > The results of this project will be written and presented in a > professional format. I hope to share my results through publication > in a professional journal or presentation at an occupational therapy > conference so that more people may become aware of this issue. The > results may also be useful to guide how occupational therapists work > with individuals who have had similar injuries. > > There is little risk to completing the survey; however, if thinking > about your responses causes you to feel distress please contact a > source of support. If at any time a question causes you discomfort > you may choose to skip that question. You can stop completing the > survey at any time you choose. All of your answers will remain > anonymous and confidential. If you continue to feel distress I would > encourage you to seek assistance through local counseling or > psychological services. > > If you have any questions about the survey or being a participant, > please contact me at _jster...@ithaca.edu_ (mailto:jster...@ithaca.edu) . or > contact Dr. Judy Gonyea, > my thesis adviser, at (607) 2
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Ya know, W... anyone watching the news lately, or SNL for that matter, is beginning to understand Illinois "Pay to Play" situation. Best, Tod wheelch...@aol.com wrote: > Amen, Amen, Amen Lori! LOL > > But then I'm a big supporter of Pay for Play and Surveys. Some states have > right to work laws... Illinois has "Pay to Play" laws, if you get my drift. > Once you have been paid to do a survey, giving it away seems > senseless Or is that me again, lol. > > Best Wishes > > > In a message dated 12/15/2008 5:36:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, > lorilivin...@gmail.com writes: > > Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or > have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to > actually take part in these type of surveys. > > > Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys > of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The > results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the > questions > posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The > questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey > and most > surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have > filled out one too many. > > > Sorry I sound so abrasive but it is really more than my opinion - it is fact > from personal experience. > > Anyway, as an individual and not a surveyor -- have a Merry Christmas and a > prosperous new year! > > Lori > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:36 PM, <_wheelch...@aol.com_ > (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) > wrote: > > > Hi Julia, > Not trying to be disrespectful, but what's in it for the members here? You > want valuable info without > compensation? You and those you represent will benefit with a grant or > study money and those who complete the survey, receive nothing. Nada. > Getting something in return like coupons for McDonalds or making a > contribution to the host of the > Quad List for his expenses. Its called, pay for play or.. credible > facts. > > Best Wishes > W > > > > > > In a message dated 12/13/2008 5:43:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, > _jster...@ithaca.edu_ (mailto:jster...@ithaca.edu) writes: > > Hello, > > My name is Julia Sterman. I am a graduate student in Occupational > Therapy at Ithaca College in Ithaca, NY. I am currently working on my > thesis project, which will investigate traumatic injury and its > impact on meaningful activities. After reading this letter you will > be given the opportunity to complete an online survey regarding your > participation in meaningful activities following your injury. This > survey should take approximately 10 minutes to complete. > > I am looking for individuals who are over the age of 18 and have had > a traumatic physical injury between one (1) and five (5) years ago. > Due to the support groups contacted, most participants will have > amputations, burns, or spinal cord injuries, but you can still > participate if you have other types of traumatic injury. You do not > need to have received occupational therapy to participate. Those who > have been diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury or severe > intellectual disability are not included in this survey. > > The results of this project will be written and presented in a > professional format. I hope to share my results through publication > in a professional journal or presentation at an occupational therapy > conference so that more people may become aware of this issue. The > results may also be useful to guide how occupational therapists work > with individuals who have had similar injuries. > > There is little risk to completing the survey; however, if thinking > about your responses causes you to feel distress please contact a > source of support. If at any time a question causes you discomfort > you may choose to skip that question. You can stop completing the > survey at any time you choose. All of your answers will remain > anonymous and confidential. If you continue to feel distress I would > encourage you to seek assistance through local counseling or > psychological services. > > If you have any questions about the survey or being a participant, > please contact me at _jster...@ithaca.edu_ (mailto:jster...@ithaca.edu) . or > contact Dr. Judy Gonyea, > my thesis adviser, at (607) 274-1737 or _jgon...@ithaca.edu_ > (mailto:jgon...@ithaca.edu) . The survey > tool is encrypted and secure so all information can only be accessed > by the researchers. The Institutional Review Board (IRB) at Ithaca > College has approved this study. > > Thank you for taking the time to complete my survey. > > Sincerely, > > Julia Sterman > > By following the link below you confirm that you agree to participate > in this study, although you may discontinue participation at any
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Amen, Amen, Amen Lori! LOL We have a very conservative Baptist College down the road from us. Each Spring the graduating students are required to go out into the community and go door to door and practice their beliefs and share it with others. Over the years, we know our door will be knocked on several times and we are always prepared. After 30 years of this, nothing has changed. The students come and go and we can always expect that knock on the door next spring. Now the "Monkey Survey" got to me too as I could not imagine any crip falling for the "monkey thing." But then I'm a big supporter of Pay for Play and Surveys. Some states have right to work laws... Illinois has "Pay to Play" laws, if you get my drift. Once you have been paid to do a survey, giving it away seems senseless Or is that me again, lol. Best Wishes In a message dated 12/15/2008 5:36:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, lorilivin...@gmail.com writes: Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to actually take part in these type of surveys. Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have filled out one too many. Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the same manner for the same purpose. I DO understand that you, in your here and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca) and it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. Or, more importantly, it made them feel like they were doing something "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my injury, and in rehab afterward - I had many OTs. Of all the therapists out there - I have found them to be narrowminded and "one-size-fits-all." PTs are great but single OT I had -- thought that if one particular piece of adaptive equipment worked for one disabled person - it would certainly work for others. And they were all very "pushy." Also, I take offense (and I think others would as well) to have you telling us what to do if we feel we are uncomfortable at any point in filling out the survey. Now that takes the cake! As if we would not know what to do - which would be to just that - stop. But that is another common character trait of OTs - TELL people how and when to do things. Sorry I sound so abrasive but it is really more than my opinion - it is fact from personal experience. Anyway, as an individual and not a surveyor -- have a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year! Lori On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:36 PM, <_wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) > wrote: Hi Julia, Not trying to be disrespectful, but what's in it for the members here? You want valuable info without compensation? You and those you represent will benefit with a grant or study money and those who complete the survey, receive nothing. Nada. Getting something in return like coupons for McDonalds or making a contribution to the host of the Quad List for his expenses. Its called, pay for play or.. credible facts. Best Wishes W In a message dated 12/13/2008 5:43:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, _jster...@ithaca.edu_ (mailto:jster...@ithaca.edu) writes: Hello, My name is Julia Sterman. I am a graduate student in Occupational Therapy at Ithaca College in Ithaca, NY. I am currently working on my thesis project, which will investigate traumatic injury and its impact on meaningful activities. After reading this letter you will be given the oppor
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Yes, W, I most certainly agree regarding these surveys and always have. Or have leaned - the hard way. I was once young and green and naïve to actually take part in these type of surveys. Over the last 29 yrs of acquiring an SCI - I have done a "several" surveys of this sort. Even via mail. The last one I did was 11 years ago. The results of all the surveys I've filled out? Who knows. But with the questions posed as they were - there was nothing they could get out of them. The questions are so objective that no one could get anything out of the survey and most surveys are like that. Those being surveyed are like "test rats." I have filled out one too many. Julia, you are abouth the 20th person who has come to this list in the same manner for the same purpose. I *DO* understand that you, in *your* here and now, think the survey willl do something helpful. I've been there on your end (even as a person who acquired a severe disability) so I know. Actually, I am from your neck of the woods (45 Minute Drive to Ithaca) and it was once "my job" to attend a two-day seminar/workshop on everything surrounding people with disabilities and education and the laws surrounding it. What a waste of two days! BUT, to the people conducting the seminar, it was supposedly meaningful. But, they thought they had all the answers. Or, more importantly, it made them feel like *they* were doing something "meaningful." All able-bodied folks don't you know. These "surveys" for people with disabilities or spinal cord injuries have never done anything but give the students, universities, organizations (as surveyors) to do nothing more than a "project." Again, in my naïveté, I was once in your position as a surveyor as a person with a disability trying to survey "others" for myself and to the organization or school, etc, that I was affiliated with. To what end? Nada. OUR participation in "meaningful activities" is no more different than those who are able bodied. Think about it. After my injury, and in rehab afterward - I had many OTs. Of all the therapists out there - I have found them to be narrowminded and "one-size-fits-all." PTs are great but single OT I had -- thought that if one particular piece of adaptive equipment worked for one disabled person - it would certainly work for others. And they were all very "pushy." Also, I take offense (and I think others would as well) to have you *telling us what to* *do* if we feel we are uncomfortable at any point in filling out the survey. Now that takes the cake! As if we would not know what to do - which would be to just that - stop. But that is another common character trait of OTs - TELL people how and when to do things. Sorry I sound so abrasive but it is really more than my opinion - it is fact from personal experience. Anyway, as an individual and not a surveyor -- have a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year! Lori On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:36 PM, wrote: > Hi Julia, > Not trying to be disrespectful, but what's in it for the members here? You > want valuable info without > compensation? You and those you represent will benefit with a grant or > study money and those who complete the survey, receive nothing. Nada. > Getting something in return like coupons for McDonalds or making a > contribution to the host of the > Quad List for his expenses. Its called, pay for play or.. credible > facts. > > Best Wishes > W > > In a message dated 12/13/2008 5:43:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, > jster...@ithaca.edu writes: > > Hello, > > My name is Julia Sterman. I am a graduate student in Occupational > Therapy at Ithaca College in Ithaca, NY. I am currently working on my > thesis project, which will investigate traumatic injury and its > impact on meaningful activities. After reading this letter you will > be given the opportunity to complete an online survey regarding your > participation in meaningful activities following your injury. This > survey should take approximately 10 minutes to complete. > > I am looking for individuals who are over the age of 18 and have had > a traumatic physical injury between one (1) and five (5) years ago. > Due to the support groups contacted, most participants will have > amputations, burns, or spinal cord injuries, but you can still > participate if you have other types of traumatic injury. You do not > need to have received occupational therapy to participate. Those who > have been diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury or severe > intellectual disability are not included in this survey. > > The results of this project will be written and presented in a > professional format. I hope to share my results through publication > in a professional journal or presentation at an occupational therapy > conference so that more people may become aware of this issue. The > results may also be useful to guide how occupational therapists work > with individuals who have had similar injuries. > > There is little risk
Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey
Dear Julia, If you continue to write such sterile letters you will surely manage your way into law. I'm ok with being asked to do a meaningful survey in ten minutes. john --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Julia Sterman wrote: From: Julia Sterman Subject: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 6:43 PM Hello, My name is Julia Sterman. I am a graduate student in Occupational Therapy at Ithaca College in Ithaca, NY. I am currently working on my thesis project, which will investigate traumatic injury and its impact on meaningful activities. After reading this letter you will be given the opportunity to complete an online survey regarding your participation in meaningful activities following your injury. This survey should take approximately 10 minutes to complete. I am looking for individuals who are over the age of 18 and have had a traumatic physical injury between one (1) and five (5) years ago. Due to the support groups contacted, most participants will have amputations, burns, or spinal cord injuries, but you can still participate if you have other types of traumatic injury. You do not need to have received occupational therapy to participate. Those who have been diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury or severe intellectual disability are not included in this survey. The results of this project will be written and presented in a professional format. I hope to share my results through publication in a professional journal or presentation at an occupational therapy conference so that more people may become aware of this issue. The results may also be useful to guide how occupational therapists work with individuals who have had similar injuries. There is little risk to completing the survey; however, if thinking about your responses causes you to feel distress please contact a source of support. If at any time a question causes you discomfort you may choose to skip that question. You can stop completing the survey at any time you choose. All of your answers will remain anonymous and confidential. If you continue to feel distress I would encourage you to seek assistance through local counseling or psychological services. If you have any questions about the survey or being a participant, please contact me at jster...@ithaca.edu. or contact Dr. Judy Gonyea, my thesis adviser, at (607) 274-1737 or jgon...@ithaca.edu. The survey tool is encrypted and secure so all information can only be accessed by the researchers. The Institutional Review Board (IRB) at Ithaca College has approved this study. Thank you for taking the time to complete my survey. Sincerely, Julia Sterman By following the link below you confirm that you agree to participate in this study, although you may discontinue participation at any time. You also acknowledge that 18 years or older. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=qv_2bl3EDxw_2fawV6ZcWnW 52A_3d_3d
Re: [QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey
Hi Julia, Not trying to be disrespectful, but what's in it for the members here? You want valuable info without compensation? You and those you represent will benefit with a grant or study money and those who complete the survey, receive nothing. Nada. Getting something in return like coupons for McDonalds or making a contribution to the host of the Quad List for his expenses. Its called, pay for play or.. credible facts. Best Wishes W In a message dated 12/13/2008 5:43:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, jster...@ithaca.edu writes: Hello, My name is Julia Sterman. I am a graduate student in Occupational Therapy at Ithaca College in Ithaca, NY. I am currently working on my thesis project, which will investigate traumatic injury and its impact on meaningful activities. After reading this letter you will be given the opportunity to complete an online survey regarding your participation in meaningful activities following your injury. This survey should take approximately 10 minutes to complete. I am looking for individuals who are over the age of 18 and have had a traumatic physical injury between one (1) and five (5) years ago. Due to the support groups contacted, most participants will have amputations, burns, or spinal cord injuries, but you can still participate if you have other types of traumatic injury. You do not need to have received occupational therapy to participate. Those who have been diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury or severe intellectual disability are not included in this survey. The results of this project will be written and presented in a professional format. I hope to share my results through publication in a professional journal or presentation at an occupational therapy conference so that more people may become aware of this issue. The results may also be useful to guide how occupational therapists work with individuals who have had similar injuries. There is little risk to completing the survey; however, if thinking about your responses causes you to feel distress please contact a source of support. If at any time a question causes you discomfort you may choose to skip that question. You can stop completing the survey at any time you choose. All of your answers will remain anonymous and confidential. If you continue to feel distress I would encourage you to seek assistance through local counseling or psychological services. If you have any questions about the survey or being a participant, please contact me at _jster...@ithaca.edu_ (mailto:jster...@ithaca.edu) . or contact Dr. Judy Gonyea, my thesis adviser, at (607) 274-1737 or _jgon...@ithaca.edu_ (mailto:jgon...@ithaca.edu) . The survey tool is encrypted and secure so all information can only be accessed by the researchers. The Institutional Review Board (IRB) at Ithaca College has approved this study. Thank you for taking the time to complete my survey. Sincerely, Julia Sterman By following the link below you confirm that you agree to participate in this study, although you may discontinue participation at any time. You also acknowledge that 18 years or older. _https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx_ (https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx) ?sm=qv_2bl3EDxw_2fawV6ZcWnW 52A_3d_3d **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0010)
[QUAD-L] occupational identity following traumatic injury survey
Hello, My name is Julia Sterman. I am a graduate student in Occupational Therapy at Ithaca College in Ithaca, NY. I am currently working on my thesis project, which will investigate traumatic injury and its impact on meaningful activities. After reading this letter you will be given the opportunity to complete an online survey regarding your participation in meaningful activities following your injury. This survey should take approximately 10 minutes to complete. I am looking for individuals who are over the age of 18 and have had a traumatic physical injury between one (1) and five (5) years ago. Due to the support groups contacted, most participants will have amputations, burns, or spinal cord injuries, but you can still participate if you have other types of traumatic injury. You do not need to have received occupational therapy to participate. Those who have been diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury or severe intellectual disability are not included in this survey. The results of this project will be written and presented in a professional format. I hope to share my results through publication in a professional journal or presentation at an occupational therapy conference so that more people may become aware of this issue. The results may also be useful to guide how occupational therapists work with individuals who have had similar injuries. There is little risk to completing the survey; however, if thinking about your responses causes you to feel distress please contact a source of support. If at any time a question causes you discomfort you may choose to skip that question. You can stop completing the survey at any time you choose. All of your answers will remain anonymous and confidential. If you continue to feel distress I would encourage you to seek assistance through local counseling or psychological services. If you have any questions about the survey or being a participant, please contact me at jster...@ithaca.edu. or contact Dr. Judy Gonyea, my thesis adviser, at (607) 274-1737 or jgon...@ithaca.edu. The survey tool is encrypted and secure so all information can only be accessed by the researchers. The Institutional Review Board (IRB) at Ithaca College has approved this study. Thank you for taking the time to complete my survey. Sincerely, Julia Sterman By following the link below you confirm that you agree to participate in this study, although you may discontinue participation at any time. You also acknowledge that 18 years or older. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=qv_2bl3EDxw_2fawV6ZcWnW52A_3d_3d
