Re: [QUAD-L] pseudomonas UTI
Ok, Thank you Lana, Dan
RE: [QUAD-L] pseudomonas UTI
Dan, My husband corrected me. Gabe had Pseudomonas in a Central line when he was hospitalized. It was treated by IV antibiotic. I do not know what that antibiotic was. The infection Gabe had that we treated with instillations was Klepsiella pneumonia. This is a bug that is usually found in the lungs, rarely in the bladder and a hard one to kill. It was treated with neosprin. Sounds strange – but it is true. We got glass capsules and the sterile water from the pharmacy. This is what we instilled in the bladder. Took forever. Sorry I couldn’t help. I still think you might want to talk to your doc about instillations. Best of luck. Lana Gabe’s Mom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] pseudomonas UTI Thanks, Lana-- Do you know what anti biotic type that it is you use for this ? Dan
Re: [QUAD-L] pseudomonas UTI
Thanks so much Tim ! also others that replied. I have been trying to learn more on the computer about this but could not find near as good of sites as you guy's have sent me. ! Dan
[QUAD-L] pseudomonas UTI
I had this (pseudomonas UTI) a couple of years ago. The first and only UTI I have been treated for in my 17 yrs. I did a dose of IV Levaquin at the ER, and then a script of the oral Levaquin. That knocked my infection out. I found an interesting link, tells about all pseudomonas. I didn't realize that most of the human body is susceptible. Tim www.geocities.com/onemofortom http://textbookofbacteriology.net/pseudomonas.html <- pseudomonas site Lori, I know you had quite a problem with a PROTEUS infection. I had a very serious PSEUDAMONAS infection that put in into the hospital for 1 week on IV drugs about a year and a half back, that my Urologist said he knew about but wanted to let it go, to see if I could get better on my own.Well it really messed me up and destroyed much of my white blood cells back then. NOW this Urologist say's I must go to my family Doc for all bladder infections. Well my family Doctor just told me I got Pseudamoas AGAIN Today ! He wants to try and treat it with ORAL anti-biotics -- Levequin. Do any of you know if the more serious types of bacteria can be treated like that or do they require IV Drugs ?? I'm Lost and confused on this...as my Doctors seem unsure themselves. I just gave blood today to see if my blood cells are messed up again Thanks, Dan Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: [QUAD-L] pseudomonas UTI
Thanks, Lana-- Do you know what anti biotic type that it is you use for this ? Dan
RE: [QUAD-L] pseudomonas UTI
50ml per procedure and you leave it in. I guess that’s why it’s called instillation or instilling. Pseudomonas UTI’s are hell to clear up and my experience is you can’t clear them up with oral medication. Gabe had the infection for months prior and it wouldn’t clear up. I think the last go around it was less time, maybe 2-3 weeks. It’s better than being in the hospital. Lana Gabe’s mom From: Ol' Man River [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:43 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] pseudomonas UTI WOW [It usually takes about a month- 4x day to heal completely ] How much solution per irrigation and how long do you let it sit in there to absorb? That's 120 procedures... Lana Baugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dan, When Gabe had his first pseudomonas UTI the doc tried treating it with oral meds and it didn’t work because pseudomonas is a bacteria that usually attacks the lungs it’s very hard to treat with oral meds. Our home nurse suggested instilling the antibiotic directly into the bladder. The doc said she hadn’t considered it because we didn’t have a regular nurse. We have done this on three occasions now with great success. Sometimes a compounding pharmacy will mix up the antibiotic fluid and sometimes not. The Doc orders sterile water by the liter (bottle) and ampules of antibiotics and I mix it. Keep it in the fridge. Gabe has to switch the cathing program from the sterile field kits to the old fashion cathing tray 4x day . We do a regular straight cath, then before you remove the cath you instill t! he antibiotic solution with a very large syringe through the cath into the bladder. Literally bathing the inside of the bladder with antibiotics. It usually takes about a month- 4x day to heal completely. But it is the only thing we’ve found that beats pseudomonas UTIs. It’s better than a hospital because Gabe can still do his thing- live life. It’s cheaper. Symptoms –bladder spasms ease up right away. Best of all he doesn’t get an award winning pressure sore or worse pneumonia from the hospital. We had a nurse help us at first, now I do it. I bet who ever covers your medical care would provide for a nurse to come in 4x a day to do this. Anyone can do this procedure. It is an accepted practice for treatment of hard to control UTIs. We handle everything over the phone with the exception of the UAs. Ask your doc about instilling antibiotics directly into the bladder. There are also no side effects like you get with oral meds. We have! a written protocol so everyone could do it the same way. We had to sit down and figure how we could keep all the steps sterile. We did and it works. Hope this helps. Lana Gabe’s mom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Lori, and others with indwelling type caths. Hi Dan, I don't know that leviquen will work with Pseudomonas as it did not with me. I was on 2 IV' s four over one month and another month of one of the same medications in my nebulizer at home that the visiting nurses taught my aid to do. It was a long ordeal. I was sick four over two months before they diagnosed. The whole time being suctioned a lot. I finally went to a lung Doctor to get diagnosed. I went to ER twice for diagnosis.. I found that you must get a tracheal culture anytime to be diagnosed, now I always do.. I guess you are talking about urinary Pseudomonas, and mine was lung, it seems like they would be similar in treatment although I don't know. . Dana (C-4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC) belong of In a message dated 9/15/2005 4:42:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Error! Cannot read or display file.Error! Cannot read or display file. Lori, I know you had quite a problem with a PROTEUS infection. I had a very serious PSEUDAMONAS infection that put in into the hospital for 1 week on IV drugs about a year and a half back, that my Urologist said he knew about but wanted to let it go, to see if I could get better on my own.Well it really messed me up and destroyed much of my white blood cells back then. NOW this Urologist say's I must go to my family Doc for all bladder infections. Well my family Doctor just told me I got Pseudamoas AGAIN Today ! He wants to try and treat it with ORAL anti-biotics -- Levequin. Do any of you know if the more serious types of bacteria can be treated like that or do they require IV Drugs ?? I'm Lost and confused on this...as my Doctors seem unsure themselves. I just gave blood today to see if my blood cells are messed up again Thanks, Dan . Dave - C3, 1967, Phoenix AZ Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: [QUAD-L] pseudomonas UTI
WOW [It usually takes about a month- 4x day to heal completely ] How much solution per irrigation and how long do you let it sit in there to absorb? That's 120 procedures... Lana Baugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dan, When Gabe had his first pseudomonas UTI the doc tried treating it with oral meds and it didnt work because pseudomonas is a bacteria that usually attacks the lungs its very hard to treat with oral meds. Our home nurse suggested instilling the antibiotic directly into the bladder. The doc said she hadnt considered it because we didnt have a regular nurse. We have done this on three occasions now with great success. Sometimes a compounding pharmacy will mix up the antibiotic fluid and sometimes not. The Doc orders sterile water by the liter (bottle) and ampules of antibiotics and I mix it. Keep it in the fridge. Gabe has to switch the cathing program from the sterile field kits to the old fashion cathing tray 4x day . We do a regular straight cath, then before you remove the cath you instill t! he antibiotic solution with a very large syringe through the cath into the bladder. Literally bathing the inside of the bladder with antibiotics. It usually takes about a month- 4x day to heal completely. But it is the only thing weve found that beats pseudomonas UTIs. Its better than a hospital because Gabe can still do his thing- live life. Its cheaper. Symptoms bladder spasms ease up right away. Best of all he doesnt get an award winning pressure sore or worse pneumonia from the hospital. We had a nurse help us at first, now I do it. I bet who ever covers your medical care would provide for a nurse to come in 4x a day to do this. Anyone can do this procedure. It is an accepted practice for treatment of hard to control UTIs. We handle everything over the phone with the exception of the UAs. Ask your doc about instilling antibiotics directly into the bladder. There are also no side effects like you get with oral meds. We have! a written protocol so everyone could do it the same way. We had to sit down and figure how we could keep all the steps sterile. We did and it works. Hope this helps. Lana Gabes mom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:21 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Lori, and others with indwelling type caths. Hi Dan, I don't know that leviquen will work with Pseudomonas as it did not with me. I was on 2 IV' s four over one month and another month of one of the same medications in my nebulizer at home that the visiting nurses taught my aid to do. It was a long ordeal. I was sick four over two months before they diagnosed. The whole time being suctioned a lot. I finally went to a lung Doctor to get diagnosed. I went to ER twice for diagnosis.. I found that you must get a tracheal culture anytime to be diagnosed, now I always do.. I guess you are talking about urinary Pseudomonas, and mine was lung, it seems like they would be similar in treatment although I don't know. . Dana (C-4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC) belong of In a message dated 9/15/2005 4:42:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Error! Cannot read or display file.Error! Cannot read or display file. Lori, I know you had quite a problem with a PROTEUS infection. I had a very serious PSEUDAMONAS infection that put in into the hospital for 1 week on IV drugs about a year and a half back, that my Urologist said he knew about but wanted to let it go, to see if I could get better on my own.Well it really messed me up and destroyed much of my white blood cells back then. NOW this Urologist say's I must go to my family Doc for all bladder infections. Well my family Doctor just told me I got Pseudamoas AGAIN Today ! He wants to try and treat it with ORAL anti-biotics -- Levequin. Do any of you know if the more serious types of bacteria can be treated like that or do they require IV Drugs ?? I'm Lost and confused on this...as my Doctors seem unsure themselves. I just gave blood today to see if my blood cells are messed up again Thanks, Dan . Dave - C3, 1967, Phoenix AZ Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
[QUAD-L] pseudomonas UTI
Dan, When Gabe had his first pseudomonas UTI the doc tried treating it with oral meds and it didn’t work because pseudomonas is a bacteria that usually attacks the lungs it’s very hard to treat with oral meds. Our home nurse suggested instilling the antibiotic directly into the bladder. The doc said she hadn’t considered it because we didn’t have a regular nurse. We have done this on three occasions now with great success. Sometimes a compounding pharmacy will mix up the antibiotic fluid and sometimes not. The Doc orders sterile water by the liter (bottle) and ampules of antibiotics and I mix it. Keep it in the fridge. Gabe has to switch the cathing program from the sterile field kits to the old fashion cathing tray 4x day . We do a regular straight cath, then before you remove the cath you instill the antibiotic solution with a very large syringe through the cath into the bladder. Literally bathing the inside of the bladder with antibiotics. It usually takes about a month- 4x day to heal completely. But it is the only thing we’ve found that beats pseudomonas UTIs. It’s better than a hospital because Gabe can still do his thing- live life. It’s cheaper. Symptoms –bladder spasms ease up right away. Best of all he doesn’t get an award winning pressure sore or worse pneumonia from the hospital. We had a nurse help us at first, now I do it. I bet who ever covers your medical care would provide for a nurse to come in 4x a day to do this. Anyone can do this procedure. It is an accepted practice for treatment of hard to control UTIs. We handle everything over the phone with the exception of the UAs. Ask your doc about instilling antibiotics directly into the bladder. There are also no side effects like you get with oral meds. We have a written protocol so everyone could do it the same way. We had to sit down and figure how we could keep all the steps sterile. We did and it works. Hope this helps. Lana Gabe’s mom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Lori, and others with indwelling type caths. Hi Dan, I don't know that leviquen will work with Pseudomonas as it did not with me. I was on 2 IV' s four over one month and another month of one of the same medications in my nebulizer at home that the visiting nurses taught my aid to do. It was a long ordeal. I was sick four over two months before they diagnosed. The whole time being suctioned a lot. I finally went to a lung Doctor to get diagnosed. I went to ER twice for diagnosis.. I found that you must get a tracheal culture anytime to be diagnosed, now I always do.. I guess you are talking about urinary Pseudomonas, and mine was lung, it seems like they would be similar in treatment although I don't know. . Dana (C-4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC) belong of In a message dated 9/15/2005 4:42:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Error! Cannot read or display file.Error! Cannot read or display file. Lori, I know you had quite a problem with a PROTEUS infection. I had a very serious PSEUDAMONAS infection that put in into the hospital for 1 week on IV drugs about a year and a half back, that my Urologist said he knew about but wanted to let it go, to see if I could get better on my own.Well it really messed me up and destroyed much of my white blood cells back then. NOW this Urologist say's I must go to my family Doc for all bladder infections. Well my family Doctor just told me I got Pseudamoas AGAIN Today ! He wants to try and treat it with ORAL anti-biotics -- Levequin. Do any of you know if the more serious types of bacteria can be treated like that or do they require IV Drugs ?? I'm Lost and confused on this...as my Doctors seem unsure themselves. I just gave blood today to see if my blood cells are messed up again Thanks, Dan .
