Re: [QUAD-L] sweating profusely when laying on my side at night

2024-01-12 Thread Jeffrey Gaede
 A lot of this sounds way too familiar for me. I would be thinking hip 
bones/heads of your femur pressure points or less likely your ischeal (butt) 
bone. You may want to have it checked out now because if it's started something 
inside that's yet to show itself, there may be something that can be done 
before more damage is caused.. Not trying to scare you but this all sounds way 
too familiar… Jeff
On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 09:52:44 AM PST, Eric Olson 
 wrote:  
 
 Wish I could help. You could just monitor it, but if it continues, I would 
assume something is going on. I don't have any sweating issues so I can't 
really relate.Regardless, sweating is probably not a good sign.  Sorry I 
couldn't be more helpful 

On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 10:37 PM Michelle Harkness 
 wrote:

Hey Greg!
I'm a C5 Quad, 30 years post.  It's always either a pressure point, bowel or 
UTI for me.  Bowel and UTI are usually not constant though, they come and go 
for sweats, like when I'm actually pooping.  I also use a magic bullet every 
other night and have been successful with it for 30 years!  The pressure point 
is the only one that will have the sweating immediately stop if I reposition.  
I don't usually even have a breakdown of skin with the "bed sweats", it's 
usually if my pillow between my knee and ankle points has shifted and I have 
bone to bone contact, if my top leg has somehow fell forward over my bottom and 
stayed there for a while, or if my heels are not on a pillow and are making 
contact with the bed.  I also use an alternating air pressure mattress, which 
works fairly good, but not always the best.
Weirdly, I'm wondering if it could just be a bone pushing against you inside 
that your body is not feeling comfortable with?  Especially if you're not 
seeing red marks anywhere.  I will usually have faint red marks if any of the 
above happen, which go away fairly quickly.  With internal stuff, like my 
galbladder and pancreas having an issue, they showed up in spasms, not sweats.  
The only other time the sweats were weird, was when I went into labor with my 
kiddo.  The contractions mimicked my pooping contractions and made me sweat 
with every one - I assume that's not an issue for you though.  ;)
I would say to pay extra special attention to your positioning and see if 
anything is pressing more firmly.  I usually sweat opposite - so if I'm 
sweating on the left, the right is most likely the problem and vice versa.  
I'm really wondering if one of your kidney stones just decided to present 
differently or get stuck somewhere else to provide your night sweats?  That 
could potentially be a pressure point your body doesn't like as well.  My hubby 
just had his first stone a few months ago and I legit thought he was dying!  A 
trip to the ER, lots of pain meds and a 5 mm stone later, he was okay!  Not 
gonna lie, I was not impressed with the stone - I always thought they were 
bigger!
I swear there should be a whole special book on how our body gives us different 
signs as quads!!  Best of luck figuring things out and I hope it's sooner 
rather than later!
Michelle
On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 10:13 PM Greg  wrote:

Hi all.

I'm a C5 quad since a diving accident in August 1987 when I was 23. I just 
turned 60, am(was) 5'10" and I weigh 182 lbs, down from 205 lbs this time last 
year. 
Amazingly enough I have used the same bowel program since leaving the hospital 
in 1988. Every other night I lay on my left side then use a suppository (Magic 
Bullet by Concepts in Confidence) the following morning. Most mornings my 
program is finished in 2 hours, sometimes 2.5. Yes, I have been very lucky in 
that regard. The following night I lay on my right side. In other words, I 
empty my bowels every 48 hours. Also, I usually spend about 8 hours on my side 
each night.
The last four nights I have started sweating profusely in the middle of the 
night. The sweating is usually limited to my neck, shoulder, side, and arm but 
only on the side that I'm not laying on. So when I'm laying on my left side, my 
right side sweats, then the following night while laying on my right side, I 
sweat on the left side. I have no sensation from the mid-shoulder down, but 
strangely enough I do feel the sweating. 
Re: pressure sores, occasionally I do have superficial pressure sores at the 
ischial tuberosity location, but nothing serious since 2004-2005 when I had a 
bad one that required surgery and sidelined me for almost 2 years. Since 2004 I 
have slept on an Invacare air mattress, and for the past 5 years it's been the 
Invacare MA600 system. Today my butt (and sides, hips, knees) looks good, and 
at 60 I don't spend a lot of time in my chair for fear of developing a pressure 
sore. My caregiver has been with me the entire time and knows as much about 
decubitus ulcers as I do. The sweating does not appear to be caused by pressure 
on my skin. Of course it could be something under the skin but I don't know. 
Another problem I have 

Re: [QUAD-L] sweating profusely when laying on my side at night

2024-01-12 Thread Eric Olson
Wish I could help. You could just monitor it, but if it continues, I would
assume something is going on. I don't have any sweating issues so I can't
really relate.Regardless, sweating is probably not a good sign.  Sorry I
couldn't be more helpful

On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 10:37 PM Michelle Harkness <
hotwheelsmiche...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Greg!
>
> I'm a C5 Quad, 30 years post.  It's always either a pressure point, bowel
> or UTI for me.  Bowel and UTI are usually not constant though, they come
> and go for sweats, like when I'm actually pooping.  I also use a magic
> bullet every other night and have been successful with it for 30 years!
> The pressure point is the only one that will have the sweating immediately
> stop if I reposition.  I don't usually even have a breakdown of skin with
> the "bed sweats", it's usually if my pillow between my knee and ankle
> points has shifted and I have bone to bone contact, if my top leg has
> somehow fell forward over my bottom and stayed there for a while, or if my
> heels are not on a pillow and are making contact with the bed.  I also use
> an alternating air pressure mattress, which works fairly good, but not
> always the best.
>
> Weirdly, I'm wondering if it could just be a bone pushing against you
> inside that your body is not feeling comfortable with?  Especially if
> you're not seeing red marks anywhere.  I will usually have faint red marks
> if any of the above happen, which go away fairly quickly.  With internal
> stuff, like my galbladder and pancreas having an issue, they showed up in
> spasms, not sweats.  The only other time the sweats were weird, was when I
> went into labor with my kiddo.  The contractions mimicked my pooping
> contractions and made me sweat with every one - I assume that's not an
> issue for you though.  ;)
>
> I would say to pay extra special attention to your positioning and see if
> anything is pressing more firmly.  I usually sweat opposite - so if I'm
> sweating on the left, the right is most likely the problem and vice versa.
>
> I'm really wondering if one of your kidney stones just decided to
> present differently or get stuck somewhere else to provide your night
> sweats?  That could potentially be a pressure point your body doesn't like
> as well.  My hubby just had his first stone a few months ago and I legit
> thought he was dying!  A trip to the ER, lots of pain meds and a 5 mm stone
> later, he was okay!  Not gonna lie, I was not impressed with the stone - I
> always thought they were bigger!
>
> I swear there should be a whole special book on how our body gives us
> different signs as quads!!  Best of luck figuring things out and I hope
> it's sooner rather than later!
>
> Michelle
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 10:13 PM Greg  wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I'm a C5 quad since a diving accident in August 1987 when I was 23. I
>> just turned 60, am(was) 5'10" and I weigh 182 lbs, down from 205 lbs this
>> time last year.
>>
>> Amazingly enough I have used the same bowel program since leaving the
>> hospital in 1988. Every other night I lay on my left side then use a
>> suppository (Magic Bullet by Concepts in Confidence) the following morning.
>> Most mornings my program is finished in 2 hours, sometimes 2.5. Yes, I have
>> been very lucky in that regard. The following night I lay on my right side.
>> In other words, I empty my bowels every 48 hours. Also, I usually spend
>> about 8 hours on my side each night.
>>
>> The last four nights I have started sweating profusely in the middle of
>> the night. The sweating is usually limited to my neck, shoulder, side, and
>> arm but only on the side that I'm not laying on. So when I'm laying on my
>> left side, my right side sweats, then the following night while laying on
>> my right side, I sweat on the left side. I have no sensation from the
>> mid-shoulder down, but strangely enough I do feel the sweating.
>>
>> Re: pressure sores, occasionally I do have superficial pressure sores at
>> the ischial tuberosity location, but nothing serious since 2004-2005 when I
>> had a bad one that required surgery and sidelined me for almost 2 years.
>> Since 2004 I have slept on an Invacare air mattress, and for the past 5
>> years it's been the Invacare MA600 system. Today my butt (and sides, hips,
>> knees) looks good, and at 60 I don't spend a lot of time in my chair for
>> fear of developing a pressure sore. My caregiver has been with me the
>> entire time and knows as much about decubitus ulcers as I do. The sweating
>> does not appear to be caused by pressure on my skin. Of course it could be
>> something under the skin but I don't know.
>>
>> Another problem I have dealt with for the past 30+ years is kidney
>> stones. Kidney stones have their own set of warning signs but sweating has
>> never been one of them for me. I mention this because it's possible I do
>> have kidney stones as I pretty much live with them all the time. Several
>> times over the years I have had lithotripsy to 

Re: [QUAD-L] sweating profusely when laying on my side at night

2024-01-11 Thread Michelle Harkness
Hey Greg!

I'm a C5 Quad, 30 years post.  It's always either a pressure point, bowel
or UTI for me.  Bowel and UTI are usually not constant though, they come
and go for sweats, like when I'm actually pooping.  I also use a magic
bullet every other night and have been successful with it for 30 years!
The pressure point is the only one that will have the sweating immediately
stop if I reposition.  I don't usually even have a breakdown of skin with
the "bed sweats", it's usually if my pillow between my knee and ankle
points has shifted and I have bone to bone contact, if my top leg has
somehow fell forward over my bottom and stayed there for a while, or if my
heels are not on a pillow and are making contact with the bed.  I also use
an alternating air pressure mattress, which works fairly good, but not
always the best.

Weirdly, I'm wondering if it could just be a bone pushing against you
inside that your body is not feeling comfortable with?  Especially if
you're not seeing red marks anywhere.  I will usually have faint red marks
if any of the above happen, which go away fairly quickly.  With internal
stuff, like my galbladder and pancreas having an issue, they showed up in
spasms, not sweats.  The only other time the sweats were weird, was when I
went into labor with my kiddo.  The contractions mimicked my pooping
contractions and made me sweat with every one - I assume that's not an
issue for you though.  ;)

I would say to pay extra special attention to your positioning and see if
anything is pressing more firmly.  I usually sweat opposite - so if I'm
sweating on the left, the right is most likely the problem and vice versa.

I'm really wondering if one of your kidney stones just decided to
present differently or get stuck somewhere else to provide your night
sweats?  That could potentially be a pressure point your body doesn't like
as well.  My hubby just had his first stone a few months ago and I legit
thought he was dying!  A trip to the ER, lots of pain meds and a 5 mm stone
later, he was okay!  Not gonna lie, I was not impressed with the stone - I
always thought they were bigger!

I swear there should be a whole special book on how our body gives us
different signs as quads!!  Best of luck figuring things out and I hope
it's sooner rather than later!

Michelle

On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 10:13 PM Greg  wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I'm a C5 quad since a diving accident in August 1987 when I was 23. I just
> turned 60, am(was) 5'10" and I weigh 182 lbs, down from 205 lbs this time
> last year.
>
> Amazingly enough I have used the same bowel program since leaving the
> hospital in 1988. Every other night I lay on my left side then use a
> suppository (Magic Bullet by Concepts in Confidence) the following morning.
> Most mornings my program is finished in 2 hours, sometimes 2.5. Yes, I have
> been very lucky in that regard. The following night I lay on my right side.
> In other words, I empty my bowels every 48 hours. Also, I usually spend
> about 8 hours on my side each night.
>
> The last four nights I have started sweating profusely in the middle of
> the night. The sweating is usually limited to my neck, shoulder, side, and
> arm but only on the side that I'm not laying on. So when I'm laying on my
> left side, my right side sweats, then the following night while laying on
> my right side, I sweat on the left side. I have no sensation from the
> mid-shoulder down, but strangely enough I do feel the sweating.
>
> Re: pressure sores, occasionally I do have superficial pressure sores at
> the ischial tuberosity location, but nothing serious since 2004-2005 when I
> had a bad one that required surgery and sidelined me for almost 2 years.
> Since 2004 I have slept on an Invacare air mattress, and for the past 5
> years it's been the Invacare MA600 system. Today my butt (and sides, hips,
> knees) looks good, and at 60 I don't spend a lot of time in my chair for
> fear of developing a pressure sore. My caregiver has been with me the
> entire time and knows as much about decubitus ulcers as I do. The sweating
> does not appear to be caused by pressure on my skin. Of course it could be
> something under the skin but I don't know.
>
> Another problem I have dealt with for the past 30+ years is kidney stones.
> Kidney stones have their own set of warning signs but sweating has never
> been one of them for me. I mention this because it's possible I do have
> kidney stones as I pretty much live with them all the time. Several times
> over the years I have had lithotripsy to remove large stubborn kidney
> stones that caused persistent UTIs, but it's not surprising for me to pass
> several kidney stones, sometimes quite large, over the course of a few
> weeks and I can usually tell when it's about to happen. Headaches, chills,
> and muscle spasms in certain areas of my side and lower back, almost always
> accompany kidney stones, and I am not experiencing any of these at the
> moment. No UTI symptoms at the moment either.
>

[QUAD-L] sweating profusely when laying on my side at night

2024-01-11 Thread Greg
Hi all.

I'm a C5 quad since a diving accident in August 1987 when I was 23. I just
turned 60, am(was) 5'10" and I weigh 182 lbs, down from 205 lbs this time
last year.

Amazingly enough I have used the same bowel program since leaving the
hospital in 1988. Every other night I lay on my left side then use a
suppository (Magic Bullet by Concepts in Confidence) the following morning.
Most mornings my program is finished in 2 hours, sometimes 2.5. Yes, I have
been very lucky in that regard. The following night I lay on my right side.
In other words, I empty my bowels every 48 hours. Also, I usually spend
about 8 hours on my side each night.

The last four nights I have started sweating profusely in the middle of the
night. The sweating is usually limited to my neck, shoulder, side, and arm
but only on the side that I'm not laying on. So when I'm laying on my left
side, my right side sweats, then the following night while laying on my
right side, I sweat on the left side. I have no sensation from the
mid-shoulder down, but strangely enough I do feel the sweating.

Re: pressure sores, occasionally I do have superficial pressure sores at
the ischial tuberosity location, but nothing serious since 2004-2005 when I
had a bad one that required surgery and sidelined me for almost 2 years.
Since 2004 I have slept on an Invacare air mattress, and for the past 5
years it's been the Invacare MA600 system. Today my butt (and sides, hips,
knees) looks good, and at 60 I don't spend a lot of time in my chair for
fear of developing a pressure sore. My caregiver has been with me the
entire time and knows as much about decubitus ulcers as I do. The sweating
does not appear to be caused by pressure on my skin. Of course it could be
something under the skin but I don't know.

Another problem I have dealt with for the past 30+ years is kidney stones.
Kidney stones have their own set of warning signs but sweating has never
been one of them for me. I mention this because it's possible I do have
kidney stones as I pretty much live with them all the time. Several times
over the years I have had lithotripsy to remove large stubborn kidney
stones that caused persistent UTIs, but it's not surprising for me to pass
several kidney stones, sometimes quite large, over the course of a few
weeks and I can usually tell when it's about to happen. Headaches, chills,
and muscle spasms in certain areas of my side and lower back, almost always
accompany kidney stones, and I am not experiencing any of these at the
moment. No UTI symptoms at the moment either.

So, my question is what could be causing these cold clammy sweats? Have any
of you old timers experienced this and figured it out? Is it always a
pressure situation? I do remember sweating profusely on my head and face
whenever I was up in my chair right before finding the bad open pressure
sore on my butt back in 2004, But back then neither of us knew what a
pressure sore was so we didn't know to look for something like that. We do
now but again my caregiver sees no evidence of pressure on my skin anywhere.

Any suggestions or help would be very much appreciated.  Thanks to all of
you who contribute here on the quad-list, and especially Jim Lubin for
providing us with this forum all these years.

Best, Greg