[QUAD-L] taking down website

2007-10-02 Thread Elizabeth Treston
I would check into thatseems odd.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:27 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower


Speaking of things legal. I was asked by the city 'fathers' to take down
my website  (  old Glendale Commission on
http://ocgrands.com/gcopd/index-old.html Persons With Disabilities (GCOPD)
)  where I had pictures of local voting places and described the shortfalls
in regards to handicapped accessibility that we the mayor's commission on
persons with disabilities were chartered to inspect.  They claimed it was
'improper' to put city oriented research and info on a private website and
could possibly lead to legal implications.  When my district representative
called, she wondered why we were doing that activity anyway.  Talk about the
left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing then cloaking it all
in legaleeze mumbo jumbo.
Dave
 
 
In a message dated 10/1/2007 10:08:17 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I've been on two commitees to design and build housing locally for
handicapped people. One thing I learned was handicapped people are hard on
bathroom floors. If you treat the entire bathroom like its the floor of the
shower, cleanups and mildew are much simpler to handle. It's expensive at
1st, but you save big on disasters that you don't have. 
 
Extreme home makeovers have products they want to sell. Disability products
are such a small part of the remodeling market, I'd rather bet on getting
struck by lightening on a sunny day. I'd be happy to live in an apartment
that I helped get built but somehow, being on the commitee would make my
living there a conflict of interest. 
 
The first handicapped accesible section 8 apartments I worked on are now
filthy slums where the term disability was twisted to mean alcoholic and
drug addict. On my last visit there were no machines in the laundry room.
they had been sold by a tennant that was mentally ill. The building security
system no longer existed and the entire first floor was being run by a pimp.
The city claimed they spent 20g a year on security. You guessed it, the pimp
got 20g a year. The city has since sold it to a judge. (the uncle of the
pimp)
 
The second building I worked on was to be run by local presbytery under
Bush's plan to let charities take over things the gov't sucks at. That is
suspended untill the federal gov't finds money it isn't sending to Iraq.
Sure feel bad for the crippled soldiers coming back.

I'm trying to get the city interested in a building strictly for spinal cord
injuries that require wheelchairs but no takers yet. As one councilman said,
we already have all the good parking places!
 
Where ever you're at, don't give up. Remember, Only lawyers believe lawyers
are needed. Keep them out. They are put on earth to make sure we all believe
in hell.
 
good luck,
john 
 
 
- Original Message 
From: Nichole Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 12:05:51 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower


DO YOU LIVE ON SOCIAL SECURITY? MAYBE THEY WOULD DO THIS ON EXTREME HOME
MAKEOVER.

- Original Message - 
From: John S. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: Tim Thompson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ; Nichole
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rohling 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower

You really do need a shower chair, but I found these bathrooms need a copper
subfloor with a special tile that drains to a universal drain in the
bathroom. The tile has microgrooves to direct the water to the drain and
theres very little tilt. The copper subfloor is needed because anything  you
do may fail in one or more places and the copper can also be designed to
drain. I like putting a heated cement subfloor below the copper. Along with
a vent fan the bathroom needs a small fan stirring the air for about 10
minutes after you leave it. It should be set to turn on every 12 hours if
its not used. This helps stop mold and mildew from forming.
 
john


- Original Message 
From: Tim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nichole Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:16:11 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower


Ha ha,
You need a SHOWER CHAIR.
And no, they're not elec.
stunt


 
On 9/30/07, Nichole Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

The only problem is me and my electric chair together weigh over 400 lbs. I
have mirrors in my corner shower so I can wheel in at an angle and fix my
hair and I turn sideways to put on my make-up - I don't think fiberglass or
pre-fab could hold the weight without it eventually cracking. i'd like to
pour concrete and have my entire bathroom concrete 


- Original Message - 
From: RONALD L PRACHT  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:40 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] 

Re: [QUAD-L] taking down website

2007-10-02 Thread John S.
picky, picky, pickynext thing you'll want is a ballot. If you are on his 
commitee then hes right. You can't make the findings public untill the city has 
had time to address them. You are suppose to spot them, point them out and then 
wait for a bribe to shut up.
If your not on his commitee you can do as you please in finding violations and 
pointing them out. The ADA has provisions for negotiating the remedies to the 
problem. 

On the other hand, It took them six years to remedy the polling place I went 
to. It had 3 steps up to get inside where you imediately walked down three 
steps. Obviously built by an architech that believed in making things hard on 
everyone.

Have you tried your local public buildings, such as town halls, schools, 
theaters, restaurants, hotels, motels, etc. I have found buildings 5 years old 
that are grandfathered in. TGIFridays are about the worst as a restaurant 
chain. Amuzement parks, no freakin way do they want crips on the property.
The city hall in my city is on the second floor with 14 steps and no elevator 
or plans to correct any shortcomings. If I were elected to city counsel I 
couldn't take part in a single meeting. I am welcome to protest as long as I 
don't block the door. 
I was fined $35 for running my chair in the street. The mayor brought his desk 
to the firestation to levy the fine and when I told them I'd rather goto jail 
it was revoked. Can't get a wheelchair in the jail and frankly, nobody cares 
that much. welcome to America and the ADA.

john 


- Original Message 
From: Elizabeth Treston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:37:09 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] taking down website


I would check into thatseems odd.




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:27 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower


Speaking of things legal. I was asked by the city 'fathers' to take down my 
website  (  old Glendale Commission on Persons With Disabilities (GCOPD) )  
where I had pictures of local voting places and described the shortfalls in 
regards to handicapped accessibility that we the mayor's commission on persons 
with disabilities were chartered to inspect.  They claimed it was 'improper' to 
put city oriented research and info on a private website and could possibly 
lead to legal implications.  When my district representative called, she 
wondered why we were doing that activity anyway.  Talk about the left hand not 
knowing what the right hand is doing then cloaking it all in legaleeze 
mumbo jumbo.
Dave
 
 
In a message dated 10/1/2007 10:08:17 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
I've been on two commitees to design and build housing locally for handicapped 
people. One thing I learned was handicapped people are hard on bathroom floors. 
If you treat the entire bathroom like its the floor of the shower, cleanups and 
mildew are much simpler to handle. It's expensive at 1st, but you save big on 
disasters that you don't have. 
 
Extreme home makeovers have products they want to sell. Disability products are 
such a small part of the remodeling market, I'd rather bet on getting struck by 
lightening on a sunny day. I'd be happy to live in an apartment that I helped 
get built but somehow, being on the commitee would make my living there a 
conflict of interest. 
 
The first handicapped accesible section 8 apartments I worked on are now filthy 
slums where the term disability was twisted to mean alcoholic and drug addict. 
On my last visit there were no machines in the laundry room. they had been sold 
by a tennant that was mentally ill. The building security system no longer 
existed and the entire first floor was being run by a pimp. The city claimed 
they spent 20g a year on security. You guessed it, the pimp got 20g a year. The 
city has since sold it to a judge. (the uncle of the pimp)
 
The second building I worked on was to be run by local presbytery under Bush's 
plan to let charities take over things the gov't sucks at. That is suspended 
untill the federal gov't finds money it isn't sending to Iraq. Sure feel bad 
for the crippled soldiers coming back.

I'm trying to get the city interested in a building strictly for spinal cord 
injuries that require wheelchairs but no takers yet. As one councilman said, 
we already have all the good parking places!
 
Where ever you're at, don't give up. Remember, Only lawyers believe lawyers are 
needed. Keep them out. They are put on earth to make sure we all believe in 
hell.
 
good luck,
john 
 
 
- Original Message 
From: Nichole Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 12:05:51 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower


DO YOU LIVE ON SOCIAL SECURITY? MAYBE THEY WOULD DO THIS ON EXTREME HOME 
MAKEOVER.
- Original Message - 
From: John S. 
To: Tim