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[Bryce Willis]

How about this. I got my new Invacare storm last November. About a month ago it 
started messing up. When you turn the power off it won't come back on. You have 
to disconnect the batteries. I think I described this earlier. Well the repair 
guy came by a couple of weeks ago and determined that the problem was in the 
joystick/control. I called them yesterday and they said they will not recognize 
the warranty because the unit had apparently been wet. This thing has never 
felt even a sprinkle! I have a strong desire to strike somebody with great 
force. What a bunch of crooks and liars! Any suggestions? Invacare wants my 
insurance to pay for it. Well of course they do. Bunch of greedy $);&:@! 
Any words of wisdom out there?

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From: greg mailto:g...@eskimo.com>>
Date: August 15, 2017 at 8:48:51 PM EDT
To: mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com>>
Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair

Been trying 6 months to get a new chair. First few months was mis 
communication. I was waiting for them to send me info, the rep thought he had 
and was waiting for me. Then arguing over what type of chair they could order. 
Now I get prescription to fix my old chair. They called and said they no longer 
work with my insurance group. I asked about the new chair we were working on. 
They said, Sorry, we didn't realize it was a different group name. So its 
starting all over.

The name of the chair place I get from my insurance.1 star rated, very bad BBB 
rating, 4 brands of chairs I've never heard of. I'm appealing to see if I can 
buy out of network. Can take another 15 days. What hassles.

Greg

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[Bryce Willis]

I have never had one but I have read several good reviews of them over the 
years.

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What is the quality like on bounder (21st-century) power wheelchairs? Has 
anybody had any luck getting coverage for one through Medicaid?

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Jeffrey Gaede 
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From: greg mailto:g...@eskimo.com>>
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Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair Prob

Just heard from my chair rep.
They said you can not get seat raiser, legrest raiser, tilt, recline, and speed 
package all together.
They said speed package or seat raiser, not both.
Quantum Edge Z

Anyone know of a chair that goes 7.5+, and seat raiser?


Thx
Greg

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[Larry Willis]

I think the dealer settled with insurance for about $13,000 on my chair. 
Fortunately, I owe nothing on it. This is because I met my maximum out of 
pocket limit through a hospital stay back in September. I get so sick and tired 
of this I would like to drive off a cliff. It seems there is a new ailment, 
breakdown, ungodly expense, family issue, everyday. And the health issues are 
NEVER small. They always life-threatening for both my wife and me. I am having 
spasms in my legs and stomach right now so bad I struggle to write this. It 
seems so damn pointless. Suffer today, suffer tomorrow, next week, next 
month,next year, until theLordfinally has some mercy and releases me from this 
misery. Ok, I'm done. God bless you guys for listening..and for 
understanding. Larry
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> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: Lori Michaelson 
> Date: December 27, 2016 at 10:35:14 PM EST
> To: da...@immortaldesigns.co, quad-list 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair
> 
> Ditto as Danny as far as the reclining option on my Permobil M 300 in 
> September 2011 and the price of the entire chair was $32,000 I think. 
> Medicare covered that but I had to pay the 20% that Medicare did not pay and 
> had to pay the full $5000 for the recline option.
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Danny Espinoza  
>> wrote:
>> I had to pay out of pocket for mine on my Permobil m300.
>> -Danny
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 4:51 PM
>> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I finely started the new chair process. I just kept putting it off. Cost to 
>> darn much, I owe 20%. They told me Medicare no longer pays for seat elevator 
>> or faster motors. So that's even more for me. I have AARP Medicare 
>> Replacement. Covers a bit more, but same rules for durable medical.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Was anyone able to get seat elevator or faster motors covered? If so, what 
>> need did you use?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I never tie down, I sit sideways behind the seat. Now my motors auto break 
>> is so warn out, I roll a lot. We had to hit the breaks hard coming home. I 
>> was too much at an angle and rolled into the back of the seat. Snapped my 
>> joystick right off. All the screws just snapped. Luckily I had 1 extra screw 
>> at home. Supposed to use 4.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The new chairs sound pretty good. Said it could have a USB, and the joystick 
>> can operate remote controls. Very cool.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and 
> heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean 
> Koontz

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[Larry Willis]

I got aa new Invacare storm this week. It doesn't have lift or speed either. 
$27,350.
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> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: greg 
> Date: December 27, 2016 at 7:50:57 PM EST
> To: 
> Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair
> 
> I finely started the new chair process. I just kept putting it off. Cost to 
> darn much, I owe 20%. They told me Medicare no longer pays for seat elevator 
> or faster motors. So that's even more for me. I have AARP Medicare 
> Replacement. Covers a bit more, but same rules for durable medical.
>  
> Was anyone able to get seat elevator or faster motors covered? If so, what 
> need did you use?
>  
> I never tie down, I sit sideways behind the seat. Now my motors auto break is 
> so warn out, I roll a lot. We had to hit the breaks hard coming home. I was 
> too much at an angle and rolled into the back of the seat. Snapped my 
> joystick right off. All the screws just snapped. Luckily I had 1 extra screw 
> at home. Supposed to use 4.
>  
> The new chairs sound pretty good. Said it could have a USB, and the joystick 
> can operate remote controls. Very cool.
>  
> Greg

Fwd: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Larry Willis]

My bud has a new Quantum on the way. Medicare would not go for the 8mph 
version. His is 6mph.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


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> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: greg 
> Date: May 12, 2015 at 8:29:13 PM EDT
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair
> 
> Hmm, the Q600Z web page lists 8mph. Could 5mph be a Medicare rule, not FDA?
> I know if there were things uncovered before, that I could pay the difference.
> My TDX5 clocks in at 6.5mph, but was listed at 7.5mph. Never as fast as 
> listed though.
> Thanks, Greg
> 
> 
>> hi greg,
>> i don't know about insurance but i just got my new chair. it's a
>> quantum 6000z. i really like it. going over bumps are nice. smooth
>> ride. my rep told me 5mph was the max because of fda rules. still
>> fast though! 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: greg 
>> To: quad-list 
>> Sent: Tue, May 12, 2015 4:13 pm
>> Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair
>> 
>> 
>> I need a new chair pretty soon. This one is falling apart. The
>> repair shop said it's at the point it's costing more to keep it
>> going. It needs motors, batteries, recline actuators. they all
>> still work, just not great. My insurance covers 80%, but my 20% is
>> still a big expense. The chair shop use to help out with co-pays,
>> but now they have contracts with the insurance companies that say
>> they wont do that anymore. I guess that prevents more people from
>> getting chairs, keeps their costs down. I'm on a Medicare
>> replacement program United
>> Healthcare. I do not qualify for Medicaid. Anyone know of any type
>> of  secondary insurance that would help? I'm liking the Quantum
>> 6000Z, 8mph. Greg
> 

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[Larry Willis]

I have always had Invacare chairs. They have been pretty good and the frame is 
such that a tie-down can be attached easily.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


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> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: wheelch...@aol.com
> Date: February 7, 2015 at 11:01:16 AM EST
> To: diannal...@aol.com, linda...@comcast.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair
> 
> Quantum is a div of Pride Mobility.  Quantum div, obtains parts and 
> components from China and assemble them in this country.  This way, they can 
> claim that the chair was Made in the USA.
> Best Wishes
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: diannal767 
> To: lindakrn ; quad-list 
> Sent: Fri, Feb 6, 2015 9:40 pm
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair
> 
> i thought quatum was made by quickie, no?
> My Quantum has worked well for me but I liked my Quickie better. Everyone 
> loves their Permobiles Good luck Diana! 
> Lindaf
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: lindakrn 
> To: Dianna 
> Cc: Espinoza, Danny ; quad-list 
> 
> Sent: Fri, Feb 6, 2015 3:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair
> 
> My Quantum has worked well for me but I liked my Quickie better. Everyone 
> loves their Permobiles Good luck Diana! 
> Lindaf
> 
> From: diannal...@aol.com 
> To: da...@immortaldesigns.co, "quad-list"  
> Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 12:27:10 AM 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair 
> 
> thank you, i'll check that one out too.
> DON’T get a quantum! I just changed from a Quantum 6000z to a Permobil M300 
> and love it! My Quantum kept breaking and always had weird issues but my new 
> Permobil M300 is leaps and bounds better.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Danny  
> To: diannal767 ; quad-list  
> Sent: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 11:49 pm 
> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair 
> 
> DON’T get a quantum! I just changed from a Quantum 6000z to a Permobil M300 
> and love it! My Quantum kept breaking and always had weird issues but my new 
> Permobil M300 is leaps and bounds better.
> -Danny
> From: diannal...@aol.com [mailto:diannal...@aol.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 12:25 PM
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair
>  
> It's time for me to order a new chair and I am thinking about a Quatum. If 
> anyone has onedo you like it? Thinking about tilt. Are they made for 
> driving adaptations on the bottom?
> Dianna
> 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] New Chair

[Larry Willis]

I have had very good luck with invacare. It and quickie have more space 
underneath for tie-downs etc. I'm sure they are better now, but belt drive 
chairs have caused me to use many foul words, especially the old E&J variety.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


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> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: diannal...@aol.com
> Date: February 5, 2015 at 1:27:10 AM EST
> To: da...@immortaldesigns.co, quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Chair
> 
> thank you, i'll check that one out too.
> DON’T get a quantum! I just changed from a Quantum 6000z to a Permobil M300 
> and love it! My Quantum kept breaking and always had weird issues but my new 
> Permobil M300 is leaps and bounds better.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Danny 
> To: diannal767 ; quad-list 
> Sent: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 11:49 pm
> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair
> 
> DON’T get a quantum! I just changed from a Quantum 6000z to a Permobil M300 
> and love it! My Quantum kept breaking and always had weird issues but my new 
> Permobil M300 is leaps and bounds better.
> -Danny
> From: diannal...@aol.com [mailto:diannal...@aol.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 12:25 PM
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair
>  
> It's time for me to order a new chair and I am thinking about a Quatum. If 
> anyone has onedo you like it? Thinking about tilt. Are they made for 
> driving adaptations on the bottom?
> Dianna

Fwd: [QUAD-L] New Chair? Let's get custom

[DAANOO]

You have any pictures of the leg rest so we can see.
Thank  you.
Dana
 
 
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Greg

My ex husband been made legrests for me like a sports Manual chair has-been
cut off the standard legrests about 4 inches down, and then made the one
piece bottom.  My first chair was an arrow, second was an Invacare and my
present chair is a Omega trac-we have adapted the legrests for each chair.
I absolutely love it, as it keeps my feet together and looks much more
sleek.  Good ideas

 

From: Greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:56 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair? Let's get custom

 

I have been very lucky with getting chairs. So far I've always got the chair
I wanted, including a Permobil. Though that was from a state insurance
program for uninsurable people with pre existing injuries. That was great
insurance, bought me a Permobil and a Surehands ceiling lift. Though the
premiums were a lot. Just as I was moving out of state so losing that
insurance, I got a TDX3 from them.  I hated the electronics on that, the
jerky steering, the clanky electric legrests, the back hurt my shoulders a
lot. A year later with new insurance, I got a new TDX5, so much nicer. With
the same insurance still and the chair only 5 years old. I now might have to
wait awhile. It is breaking down a lot now. And with my back curving more. I
might need some major chair seat/back modifications. But I sure would like
11.6 mph.!

 

I'd love to take a chair to a motorcycle or car customizing shop. I'd cut a
bunch of needless stuff off, hide more wiring, maybe a custom cover over the
bottom half of the chair, a gps unit that could be tracked from a home
computer (incase of emergency), a flip down platform on the back a friend
could stand on, cstom legrests more like sport manual chairs, maybe a
armrest pad could flip open for a phone,  etc.

 

If you no longer need things adjustable, you could make things much
smoother.  Just make it to your size/.fit.  My armrest, thigh pads, joystick
bar, have all kinds of knobs, nuts, etc that could be left off. There are so
many things that could be done to make chairs better looking.

 

Greg

  _  

 

I might have missed something as the rules for obtaining a new chair has
changed in the last 5 years.  Just ask anyone who has received one.  What
you want, you may not get or you may get more.  Much depends on how well you
follow the protocol, with your doctor, occupational therapist, the DME's
ATS, they way the order is coded and pre-approval of CMS.  I know of some
who were surprised at what they got and others complained.  But there is
nothing wrong with starting a list and hoping that your doctor and CMS
agrees.

Happy New Year

Best Wishes

 

In a message dated 1/2/2010 4:49:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,
bobbie...@aol.com writes:

Hopefully soon I can qualify for a new chair.

 

Greg, Start NOW making a list, literally, of things you want for your new
chair - right down to the size of the foot plates, arm rest size EVERYTHING.
~ Bobbie

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[DAANOO]

 

  
Good luck getting your chair in a timely fashion.  It it so tiring  waiting 
on something you need.  How long did you have to wait between  wheelchairs to 
get a new one. I hope I can get a new one before she retires.  My supplier told 
me I could not get a new one until mine cost more to be  repaired and a new 
one and that could be forever with a permobile.  I still  have insurance to my 
stepmom, but it seems like they are just as slow as  Medicaid.  My supplier 
told me that insurance pretty much follows Medicare  ruling.  I have had mine 
for years now.  A lot of things are broken  but not the price of the entire 
chair.  Has anybody ever heard of  Medicare/Medicaid paying for a 
Permobile.Just 
wondering. 
 
Dana
 
 

In a message dated 2/1/2007 5:05:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
I started the process last May.   My chair is still a couple months away.
 
Cabana Bill
C6 Incomplete since  7/20/68
Leesburg, FL
Out of my mind. Back in five  minutes.

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Getting a new  chair is akin to pulling teeth, or so I'm told. I just figured 
I'd start the  paperwork about six months ahead of when I need it. The TDX3 
I'm using has  been a good chair but it is getting worn our fast. 
I tryed to tell the folks at Medicaid  that I wouldn't pester them about 
ramps if they'd get me a chair that climbs  steps. My facilitator wanted to 
know 
if I was high. I'm with Mark. I hope  you like your chair and it keeps you free 
and "taking up all the good  parking places.". 
 
john
 

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It's always nice getting a new chair.
Congratulations Greg I hope you have a great time with the new  chair.
 
 
Mark Jackson
 


 

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Sent: 1/30/2007 6:05:13 PM 
Subject: [QUAD-L] New Chair



My new chair got in today.  Invacare TDX5, (tilt, recline, seat elevator, 
electric leg rests). I had  to go up and get in it so they could make any 
adjustments to it. Only  minor things, but they have to make some knee/thigh 
pads to 
keep my knees  from spreading. I sit fine in my old chair, but this one has a 
center post  leg rest, instead of individual leg rests. I like a center post 
one  better, but you do sit better if there are 2 leg rests. But when you have  
individual electric leg rests, each leg rest must get plug into the chair.  
So it’s a hassle getting them on and off. The center post can just lower  and 
tuck back under the chair. I can tell it is a bit faster than my TDX3,  but so 
much smoother to drive. I think I’m going to like the different  back on it a 
lot. Instead of a basic square padded back, this one has the  top corners cut 
off. So your shoulders have room to move around. It should  be delivered 
within the week. I never thought they would approve this  chair with all the 
extras, but they did… I hope I like  it…
Greg



  

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I started the process last May.  My chair is still a couple months away.

Cabana Bill
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Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
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   Getting a new chair is akin to pulling teeth, or so I'm told. I just figured 
I'd start the paperwork about six months ahead of when I need it. The TDX3 I'm 
using has been a good chair but it is getting worn our fast. 
  I tryed to tell the folks at Medicaid that I wouldn't pester them about ramps 
if they'd get me a chair that climbs steps. My facilitator wanted to know if I 
was high. I'm with Mark. I hope you like your chair and it keeps you free and 
"taking up all the good parking places.". 

  john

   
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  Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] New Chair


  It's always nice getting a new chair.
  Congratulations Greg I hope you have a great time with the new chair.

  Mark Jackson


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Subject: [QUAD-L] New C