RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
They are electric elevating leg rests. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you mean elevating leg rests? If so, manual or electric? Or are you talking about 'Tilt in Space' seating? Dan At 10:55 PM 10/27/2007 -0500, Eric W Rudd said something that elicited my response: "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"> where the legs extend Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ms Linda Ferrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:53 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs What are leg controls? Lindaf - Original Message - From: Eric W Rudd To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs That's what I'm trying next, very, very soon. Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:54 PM To: John S.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs My Quatum Pride 6000 ( http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html ) is a good chair. Make sure if you get it, be sure and get the leg controls. They really help keep me up on the seat. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
Hi Linda, I can raise and lower my leg using my joystick. Very useful when trying to get through doorways. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA Ms Linda Ferrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What are leg controls? Lindaf - Original Message - From: Eric W Rudd To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs That's what I'm trying next, very, very soon. Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:54 PM To: John S.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs My Quatum Pride 6000 ( http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html ) is a good chair. Make sure if you get it, be sure and get the leg controls. They really help keep me up on the seat. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
John, I jumped the gun again, my bad, but I still feel the same on that issue with many in NJ. As for our wheels and batteries being replaced, I sure know the feeling I've been through four sets of tires that turned to slicks. My batteries are the fourth set as well. After what you wrote I took this part and I cannot agree more. Our Vets should be covered for everything. They should be at the TOP of the list on health care, but as Norm (Cheers) always said, It's a dog eat dog world. You can believe what you like, but when they are thinking up ways to screw over disabled folks, they are about to rip off disabled vets, too Keith/34/C4-5/NJ ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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Well, Silas mine has a flaw in the electronics that causes dead spots in the recline system. You can get around this by simply turning off the power and restarting. It is capable of more speed than I'm able to control. If you don't fly, don't let them give you gell cel batteries. On the bright side, its very freaking comfortable. Armor your feet if you got those tiny heel plates. Bolt a peice of metal the size of your foot to that little heel plate. You'll thank me when you hit something. It is so maneuverable its easy to think you'll get through places. Best chair I ever had. Spent 30 hours in it during power outage. It rocked! Never caused a sore or irritated a bad spot. I think you'll be happy with it. john - Original Message From: Silas Shelburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:16:29 AM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs I’m expecting a new TDX3 any day now, I swear medicade approved the chair the first time. I started the process in July so its took about 4 months, it would have been sooner but my Drs. Secretary didn’t fax the paper work. We just so happened to call and check on the progress and Holland medical hadn’t received the needed paper work, so that slowed the order about 4 weeks. What’s wrong with these medical equipment companies, you would think they would have called to see what was going on. Hell they don’t give a flip about you, my old Invacare was down so if I hadn’t had my extreme I would be stuck in bed. I hope I like the TDX anybody have any complaints with theirs? Silas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs You will learn in time that obtaining a new chair these days is a lot more difficult today than it was just 5 years ago. Especially if CMS is paying for that chair. First, is the order from a licensed doctor in rehab medicine, to see an Occupational Therapist for a complete evaluation based on medical needs. The evaluation goes back to the doctor for another order to the DME. The DME will then determine what is best for you, with your help and assistance and submit those findings to Gov Insurance to determine if they will be paid for the perfect chair. Sometimes they get a yes and other times they get a no. Submittals have to be adjusted and justifications have to be properly coded and submitted. The process could take 6 months to a year. Maybe longer. Sometimes shorter. Ask around and evaluate each answer, based on its user and needs. Best Wishes In a message dated 10/27/2007 12:29:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The DME close by here has a wide selection of power wheelchairs. They have invacare, and jazzy and pride and might be able to get a quikie. My own wheelchair is an invacare TDX3. It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and batteries then get them started on a replacement. Unless Ohio has dictated the chairs shall last 7 years! My neighbor did put some cool leg armor on my chair so I can visit offices where they don't allow wheelchairs. (Like Medicaid) Is that the total choice open to medicare and medicaid patience? john See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
Allot of these new fangled chairs have seperate controls for the anti shear back as well as the legs raising and lowering. By raising your legs befor you recline and tilt, this feature can use your own legs to push you cack in your seat. It also means your not seated in your chair quite right. but its a work around fix untill the doctors and pt decide to re-seat your chair. best wishes, john - Original Message From: Ms Linda Ferrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 2:52:49 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs What are leg controls? Lindaf - Original Message - From: Eric W Rudd To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs That's what I'm trying next, very, very soon. Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:54 PM To: John S.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs My Quatum Pride 6000 ( http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html ) is a good chair. Make sure if you get it, be sure and get the leg controls. They really help keep me up on the seat. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
Do you mean elevating leg rests? If so, manual or electric? Or are you talking about 'Tilt in Space' seating? Dan At 10:55 PM 10/27/2007 -0500, Eric W Rudd said something that elicited my response: >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"> >where the legs extend > > >Eric W Rudd ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-Original Message- >From: Ms Linda Ferrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:53 PM >To: quad-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs > >What are leg controls? >Lindaf >- Original Message - >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Eric W Rudd >To: <mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com>quad-list@eskimo.com >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:33 PM >Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs > >That's what I'm trying next, very, very soon. > > >Eric W Rudd ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-Original Message- >From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:54 PM >To: John S.; <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]; ><mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com>quad-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs > >My Quatum Pride 6000 ( ><http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html>http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html > ) is a good chair. Make sure if you get it, be sure and get the leg >controls. They really help keep me up on the seat. > >With Love, > >CtrlAltDel aka Dave >C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post >Texas, USA > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 >11:02 AM
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
Hi, Will I'm still waiting for my new wheelchair from VR. I had a OT out here two months ago and he told me that I would get it at the begining of next year. Happy New Years!!! Wheelchair Warrior - Original Message From: Bill Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Quad List Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:57:34 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs I hate to contradict you, Wheel, but any licensed physician can write the prescription if the OT or PT writes the letter of evaluation and medical necessity well enough. I got my letter from an OT in Feb. '07, my prescription from my doctor's PA in Mar. '07 and my chair was delivered April 13, '07. IMO the DME provider makes all the difference by double-checking everything; making sure every "i" is dotted, every "t" is crossed and everything is coded properly. I chose the Quantum 600 and it's been great. I liked the center wheel drive because both my legs are anputated above-the-knee making my weight/balance cause a rear-wheel drive tip easily. It also had the best options for me: Roho high-profile Quatro cushion, tilt, recline, etc. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Red ship crashes into blue ship - sailors marooned. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs You will learn in time that obtaining a new chair these days is a lot more difficult today than it was just 5 years ago. Especially if CMS is paying for that chair. First, is the order from a licensed doctor in rehab medicine, to see an Occupational Therapist for a complete evaluation based on medical needs. The evaluation goes back to the doctor for another order to the DME. The DME will then determine what is best for you, with your help and assistance and submit those findings to Gov Insurance to determine if they will be paid for the perfect chair. Sometimes they get a yes and other times they get a no. Submittals have to be adjusted and justifications have to be properly coded and submitted. The process could take 6 months to a year. Maybe longer. Sometimes shorter. Ask around and evaluate each answer, based on its user and needs. Best Wishes In a message dated 10/27/2007 12:29:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The DME close by here has a wide selection of power wheelchairs. They have invacare, and jazzy and pride and might be able to get a quikie. My own wheelchair is an invacare TDX3. It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and batteries then get them started on a replacement. Unless Ohio has dictated the chairs shall last 7 years! My neighbor did put some cool leg armor on my chair so I can visit offices where they don't allow wheelchairs. (Like Medicaid) Is that the total choice open to medicare and medicaid patience? john See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I 'm sure that you will enjoy your new chair once you receive it. This industry as a whole is downsizing because the Gov Paid Equpment, is a fraction of what it was in previous years. Some employees have moved on to other jobs and those who remained are often working for two, to keep the industry moving. Granted, CMS is saving lots of money, but the true disabled population is not getting what they once did. Best Wishes In a message dated 10/28/2007 8:17:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I’m expecting a new TDX3 any day now, I swear medicade approved the chair the first time. I started the process in July so its took about 4 months, it would have been sooner but my Drs. Secretary didn’t fax the paper work. We just so happened to call and check on the progress and Holland medical hadn’t received the needed paper work, so that slowed the order about 4 weeks. What ’s wrong with these medical equipment companies, you would think they would have called to see what was going on. Hell they don’t give a flip about you, my old Invacare was down so if I hadn’t had my extreme I would be stuck in bed. I hope I like the TDX anybody have any complaints with theirs? Silas ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
I'm expecting a new TDX3 any day now, I swear medicade approved the chair the first time. I started the process in July so its took about 4 months, it would have been sooner but my Drs. Secretary didn't fax the paper work. We just so happened to call and check on the progress and Holland medical hadn't received the needed paper work, so that slowed the order about 4 weeks. What's wrong with these medical equipment companies, you would think they would have called to see what was going on. Hell they don't give a flip about you, my old Invacare was down so if I hadn't had my extreme I would be stuck in bed. I hope I like the TDX anybody have any complaints with theirs? Silas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs You will learn in time that obtaining a new chair these days is a lot more difficult today than it was just 5 years ago. Especially if CMS is paying for that chair. First, is the order from a licensed doctor in rehab medicine, to see an Occupational Therapist for a complete evaluation based on medical needs. The evaluation goes back to the doctor for another order to the DME. The DME will then determine what is best for you, with your help and assistance and submit those findings to Gov Insurance to determine if they will be paid for the perfect chair. Sometimes they get a yes and other times they get a no. Submittals have to be adjusted and justifications have to be properly coded and submitted. The process could take 6 months to a year. Maybe longer. Sometimes shorter. Ask around and evaluate each answer, based on its user and needs. Best Wishes In a message dated 10/27/2007 12:29:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The DME close by here has a wide selection of power wheelchairs. They have invacare, and jazzy and pride and might be able to get a quikie. My own wheelchair is an invacare TDX3. It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and batteries then get them started on a replacement. Unless Ohio has dictated the chairs shall last 7 years! My neighbor did put some cool leg armor on my chair so I can visit offices where they don't allow wheelchairs. (Like Medicaid) Is that the total choice open to medicare and medicaid patience? john _ See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170> and Make AOL Your <http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169> Homepage.
RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
where the legs extend Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ms Linda Ferrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:53 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs What are leg controls? Lindaf - Original Message - From: Eric W Rudd <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs That's what I'm trying next, very, very soon. Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:54 PM To: John S.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs My Quatum Pride 6000 ( http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html ) is a good chair. Make sure if you get it, be sure and get the leg controls. They really help keep me up on the seat. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
MessageWhat are leg controls? Lindaf - Original Message - From: Eric W Rudd To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs That's what I'm trying next, very, very soon. Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:54 PM To: John S.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs My Quatum Pride 6000 ( http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html ) is a good chair. Make sure if you get it, be sure and get the leg controls. They really help keep me up on the seat. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
You got me Keith! I'm a freakin Socialist. Six months before the feds allow for an expendature in health care and I'm plotting to spend money on a wheelchair so it can't be used where its needed on Bushes farm. john __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Keith, Sorry if I made it sound like my chair only suffers from the sight of my butt coming toward it each morning. It has developed some bad habits that I'm told are signs that the Mk5 electrical system is almost toast. It does a cute trick now n then, when I recline. It starts sitting back up then stops. It must be restarted several times before it actually returns to a seated position. The roho seat in it needs replaced. (not just my butt complaining, Rehab Dr. says its junk). I think you've done real great getting a chair to last beyond 5 years. They weren't meant to last that long. mines on 3rd set of tires, 4th set of batteries. The back has been replaced once and is about to be redesigned and replaced again. When it is working right its a great chair to be in. Ohyea..it did catch on fire once. Those burns are almost healed. If all else fails, I have a wicker chair that dates to 1932, but it doesn't really steer, it merely helps whoever is pushing it. (INHO) I think the money junkeys and mental deriliques running Americas' healthcare systems have sat on their hands while Der flunkenschtooper has dictated the building of invisible jets that are too expensive to risk flying. We did need to replace the F-15's fast, although nobody has ever shot one of them down. And we needed those aircraft carriers built on the double, (guys that get $70 per hour worked Sundays). The Navy is worried how to man ships with all the air craft carriers. Retirering Admiral's comment off the record: The USS William Jefferson Clinton won't be fully manned and capable of operations untill its reactors are beginning to fail. Don't even ask what marines think of there ultimate weapon the congress forced them to have, "V-22". A copy of a helicopter built by soviets back in early 60's but Russians only thought it was entirely stupid to build a plane/helicopter that is not a good airplane or a good helicopter. So far, the V-22 has killed more marines than Saddam Housien did. You can believe what you like, but when they are thinking up ways to screw over disabled folks, they are about to rip off disabled vets, too Best Wishes, john - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 4:01:32 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs Clip It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and batteries then get them started on a replacement. This is why (IMHO) that federal and state waivers are sooo burnt out. Many people just seem to want another something (after it's in good shape) just becuase. Spend, spend, spend. After 11 years in my only chair, I've decided to get another one due to wear and motor performance and all I'm getting is one big runaround. Keith/34/C4-5/NJ See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Presently I got my last wheelchair from my Blue Cross Blue Shield as my stepmother is still full-time employee and I am a dependent on her insurance, because of that. I previously was just covered by my father's insurance, which was through his school district, which changed every year often did not even cover DME. A state representative help me get on my stepmother's Blue Cross Blue Shield. Mine was done the same way, but I still have to go to a OT to be evaluated. Last time which was almost 4 years ago , I did not have to go to my rehab doctor. It sounds like I would have to now. My DME told me that the cost of repairs has to be the price of the wheelchair. I have a Permobile. They believe it is going to be a long time. Does anyone have experience with this? Is this correct. I really love my chair as it is very comfortable. I use a Roho high profile. I wish they have automatic way to check the air inflation of the chair at all times. I thought someone had posted a site for such a device sometime ago. Every time I ask, no one responds. I got most of my sores, from not knowing the cushion was flat. Dana In a message dated 10/27/2007 4:05:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You guys make me glad I have private insurance. But my DME had to have a letter from my doctor before they would even look at the chair to order 2 new legs on my 17 month old chair. I don't think my doc even knows what kind of chair I have. That was the DME's idea not my insurance company. KK Remember: life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes... ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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You know I like being proved wrong, incorrect and contradictions. But as I read the CMS report issued in November of last year and and again earlier, they stated a "Medical Doctor, with certification in Rehab Medicine." This was done to prevent other MDs like foot doctors, PHD, Physic and Chiros from prescribing electric chairs. Perhaps you were one of the lucky ones. (But you always were, lol) Best Wishes In a message dated 10/27/2007 3:58:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hate to contradict you, Wheel, but any licensed physician can write the prescription if the OT or PT writes the letter of evaluation and medical necessity well enough. I got my letter from an OT in Feb. '07, my prescription from my doctor's PA in Mar. '07 and my chair was delivered April 13, '07. IMO the DME provider makes all the difference by double-checking everything; making sure every "i" is dotted, every "t" is crossed and everything is coded properly. I chose the Quantum 600 and it's been great. I liked the center wheel drive because both my legs are anputated above-the-knee making my weight/balance cause a rear-wheel drive tip easily. It also had the best options for me: Roho high-profile Quatro cushion, tilt, recline, etc. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Red ship crashes into blue ship - sailors marooned. - Original Message - ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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You guys make me glad I have private insurance. But my DME had to have a letter from my doctor before they would even look at the chair to order 2 new legs on my 17 month old chair. I don't think my doc even knows what kind of chair I have. That was the DME's idea not my insurance company. KK Remember: life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes...
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
I hate to contradict you, Wheel, but any licensed physician can write the prescription if the OT or PT writes the letter of evaluation and medical necessity well enough. I got my letter from an OT in Feb. '07, my prescription from my doctor's PA in Mar. '07 and my chair was delivered April 13, '07. IMO the DME provider makes all the difference by double-checking everything; making sure every "i" is dotted, every "t" is crossed and everything is coded properly. I chose the Quantum 600 and it's been great. I liked the center wheel drive because both my legs are anputated above-the-knee making my weight/balance cause a rear-wheel drive tip easily. It also had the best options for me: Roho high-profile Quatro cushion, tilt, recline, etc. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Red ship crashes into blue ship - sailors marooned. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs You will learn in time that obtaining a new chair these days is a lot more difficult today than it was just 5 years ago. Especially if CMS is paying for that chair. First, is the order from a licensed doctor in rehab medicine, to see an Occupational Therapist for a complete evaluation based on medical needs. The evaluation goes back to the doctor for another order to the DME. The DME will then determine what is best for you, with your help and assistance and submit those findings to Gov Insurance to determine if they will be paid for the perfect chair. Sometimes they get a yes and other times they get a no. Submittals have to be adjusted and justifications have to be properly coded and submitted. The process could take 6 months to a year. Maybe longer. Sometimes shorter. Ask around and evaluate each answer, based on its user and needs. Best Wishes In a message dated 10/27/2007 12:29:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The DME close by here has a wide selection of power wheelchairs. They have invacare, and jazzy and pride and might be able to get a quikie. My own wheelchair is an invacare TDX3. It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and batteries then get them started on a replacement. Unless Ohio has dictated the chairs shall last 7 years! My neighbor did put some cool leg armor on my chair so I can visit offices where they don't allow wheelchairs. (Like Medicaid) Is that the total choice open to medicare and medicaid patience? john -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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In a message dated 10/27/2007 3:36:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is why a lot of the DME's are employing an OT now. Lindaf - Original Message - True, but even that can be very expensive these days. OTs and PTs are not cheap. Why would want to travel for a DME for a couple hours of work, when they can work out of a hospital and get paid for 8 plus. Trying to find an OT to make a house visit is even more difficult for the Internet DME trying to make a sale over the internet. Its a very interesting story Best Wishes ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
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This is why a lot of the DME's are employing an OT now. Lindaf - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs This is again (IMHO) is due to the many, many years of abuse to the system. Keith/34/C4-5/NJ You will learn in time that obtaining a new chair these days is a lot more difficult today than it was just 5 years ago. Especially if CMS is paying for that chair. First, is the order from a licensed doctor in rehab medicine, to see an Occupational Therapist for a complete evaluation based on medical needs. The evaluation goes back to the doctor for another order to the DME. The DME will then determine what is best for you, with your help and assistance and submit those findings to Gov Insurance to determine if they will be paid for the perfect chair. Sometimes they get a yes and other times they get a no. Submittals have to be adjusted and justifications have to be properly coded and submitted. The process could take 6 months to a year. Maybe longer. Sometimes shorter. Ask around and evaluate each answer, based on its user and needs. Best Wishes -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM
RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
A must have for all that can't reach the bag. I had one in my closet for 2 years until I finally got my brother to hook it up and I felt stupid for letting it sit there. Mark Jackson RollinOn _ From: Eric W Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:54 AM To: 'Quad-list' Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs jury still out on chair...but a must have accessory is electric leg bag emptier Eric W Rudd HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:42 AM To: Quad-list Subject: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs Ok, What is the best chair and why? what accessories are a must+/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM
RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
I promise you if you try out the X5 Frontier you'll love it so if they have one definitely try it out. I've had mine 3 years now with no problems but just recently changed the batteries. Try it and enjoy your new found freedom! HYPERLINK "http://www.magicmobility.com.au/Frontier.htm"http://www.magicmobility.com.a u/Frontier.htm Mark Jackson RollinOn _ From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:42 AM To: Quad-list Subject: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs Ok, What is the best chair and why? what accessories are a must+/ - Original Message From: Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Quad-list Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:40:46 AM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters Hi Theo, I use white distilled vinegar & the ratio is nothing exact. I'd guess 2-3 Tablespoons vinegar to 1 Quart Water. Eric W Rudd HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Theo Kyparissis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 5:10 AM To: 'Eric W Rudd'; Quad-list Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters Hi Eric, What ratio of water to vinegar do you use and do you use any specific type of vinegar? Cheers Theo _ From: Eric W Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:52 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters I irrigate w/ tap h20 and vinegar every morning, been clog and uti free for about 2 yrs. Eric W Rudd HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:31 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Irrigating indwelling or suprapubic catheters Hi - All My new Urologist thinks I should irrigate thru my supra pubic catheter about once a week or so, to help prevent bladder stones. Does anyone else in here do this on a regular basis ? It sounds like a good idea, but I was wondering if irrigating might cause more UTI's or bladder infections. Dan H. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
Clip It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and batteries then get them started on a replacement. This is why (IMHO) that federal and state waivers are sooo burnt out. Many people just seem to want another something (after it's in good shape) just becuase. Spend, spend, spend. After 11 years in my only chair, I've decided to get another one due to wear and motor performance and all I'm getting is one big runaround. Keith/34/C4-5/NJ ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
This is again (IMHO) is due to the many, many years of abuse to the system. Keith/34/C4-5/NJ You will learn in time that obtaining a new chair these days is a lot more difficult today than it was just 5 years ago. Especially if CMS is paying for that chair. First, is the order from a licensed doctor in rehab medicine, to see an Occupational Therapist for a complete evaluation based on medical needs. The evaluation goes back to the doctor for another order to the DME. The DME will then determine what is best for you, with your help and assistance and submit those findings to Gov Insurance to determine if they will be paid for the perfect chair. Sometimes they get a yes and other times they get a no. Submittals have to be adjusted and justifications have to be properly coded and submitted. The process could take 6 months to a year. Maybe longer. Sometimes shorter. Ask around and evaluate each answer, based on its user and needs. Best Wishes ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
RE: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
That's what I'm trying next, very, very soon. Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:54 PM To: John S.; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs My Quatum Pride 6000 ( http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html ) is a good chair. Make sure if you get it, be sure and get the leg controls. They really help keep me up on the seat. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
My Quatum Pride 6000 ( http://www.pridemobility.com/quantum/PowerBases/MidWheel_6/6000/6000.html ) is a good chair. Make sure if you get it, be sure and get the leg controls. They really help keep me up on the seat. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA "John S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The DME close by here has a wide selection of power wheelchairs. They have invacare, and jazzy and pride and might be able to get a quikie. My own wheelchair is an invacare TDX3. It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and batteries then get them started on a replacement. Unless Ohio has dictated the chairs shall last 7 years! My neighbor did put some cool leg armor on my chair so I can visit offices where they don't allow wheelchairs. (Like Medicaid) Is that the total choice open to medicare and medicaid patience? john - See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
You will learn in time that obtaining a new chair these days is a lot more difficult today than it was just 5 years ago. Especially if CMS is paying for that chair. First, is the order from a licensed doctor in rehab medicine, to see an Occupational Therapist for a complete evaluation based on medical needs. The evaluation goes back to the doctor for another order to the DME. The DME will then determine what is best for you, with your help and assistance and submit those findings to Gov Insurance to determine if they will be paid for the perfect chair. Sometimes they get a yes and other times they get a no. Submittals have to be adjusted and justifications have to be properly coded and submitted. The process could take 6 months to a year. Maybe longer. Sometimes shorter. Ask around and evaluate each answer, based on its user and needs. Best Wishes In a message dated 10/27/2007 12:29:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The DME close by here has a wide selection of power wheelchairs. They have invacare, and jazzy and pride and might be able to get a quikie. My own wheelchair is an invacare TDX3. It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and batteries then get them started on a replacement. Unless Ohio has dictated the chairs shall last 7 years! My neighbor did put some cool leg armor on my chair so I can visit offices where they don't allow wheelchairs. (Like Medicaid) Is that the total choice open to medicare and medicaid patience? john ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
The DME close by here has a wide selection of power wheelchairs. They have invacare, and jazzy and pride and might be able to get a quikie. My own wheelchair is an invacare TDX3. It has been a good chair but it is 4.5 years old with my butt in it almost everyday between 8 to 14 hours. A few signs of wear are becoming evident. I figure I'll get my new back replacement and batteries then get them started on a replacement. Unless Ohio has dictated the chairs shall last 7 years! My neighbor did put some cool leg armor on my chair so I can visit offices where they don't allow wheelchairs. (Like Medicaid) Is that the total choice open to medicare and medicaid patience? john See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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jury still out on chair...but a must have accessory is electric leg bag emptier Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:42 AM To: Quad-list Subject: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs Ok, What is the best chair and why? what accessories are a must+/
Re: [QUAD-L] to all in wheelchairs
In a message dated 10/27/2007 11:42:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, What is the best chair and why? what accessories are a must+/ - Original Message I prefer a motorize LazyBoy Recliner with telephone and chill box in the arm rest for baseball and football games. The telephone is a good idea too. W ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com