Re: Is it still called "Local"Talk when it's 80 mi.?

[raino]

It was meant as a joke! Thanks for all the replys!
raino
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>>...I have one cable that is huge, eighty miles
>>(!) long...
>
> Raino, that almost sounds like you mean it.
> Could there be a remote neighborhood near
> you that now doesn't have its power or phone?
>   :)
> -David

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Re: cable question

[raino]

No! no! Not more! I just was curious as to their use-I don't need more-but
thanks for thinking of me and giving the generous offer!
raino

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> I have three sets of them (connectors, cables - about 6-12'-and male-to-male
> plugs that act as extenders) that I'll never use.
> If you want'em, reach me off-list, first come, first served, no charge. :-)
> Dana

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Re: mail client

[Michael Emery]

Elaine M. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I am looking for a *very* stable e-mail program...

Eudora Light is still free to use:



 Also free is Claris Emailer v1:



I used to use Eudora Light, a dependable and versatile performer. Who 
knows why, but eventually I migrated to Emailer v2 which is not for free. 
It's more fun to use than Eudora.
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QuickDraw GX

[David Deckert]

>"The installed substitution fonts are 
>designed for use with QuickDraw GX.
>Please remove them and install the standard 
>QuickDraw versions."

If I recall QuickDraw GX only runs on a 
PowerMac, and if so maybe QuickDraw GX 
components (the incompatible fonts) were 
installed either during the printer software 
install or when you put the OS itself on. Does 
that sound about right?

Don't know about 7.6.1, but I think 8.1 keeps 
wanting to install GX on a Quad even with an 
Easy Install.

-David

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Is it still called "Local"Talk when it's 80 mi.?

[David Deckert]

>...I have one cable that is huge, eighty miles 
>(!) long...

Raino, that almost sounds like you mean it. 
Could there be a remote neighborhood near 
you that now doesn't have its power or phone? 

  :)

-David

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Re: Mac disk burner software

[David Deckert]

>I am looking for a copy of Easy CD Creator 
>for the Iomega Zip CD read/write
>drive.  

How you plan to hook up this USB (or internal 
IDE?) CD burner to your Quadra?

>I got the drive from a friend but he only had 
>the Windows software.

Right. And if you had a copy of Easy CD 
Creator you'd still have Windows-only 
software. The Mac version of Roxio's (néé 
Adaptec software's) software for burners is 
called Toast.

>I tried contacting Iomega but have not gotten 
>anywhere.  Does anyone have a
>copy or know where I could get a copy?

Yeah, it isn't their software to give. And Roxio 
will only let you download updates, not the real 
deal for free. Presuming you have USB, buy 
Roxio's Toast Titanium. 

I use it for my own Zip 650 and it's great. Toast 
4 is fine too and works on some older Macs. 
Both versions work well with the Zip CD650, 
which your Quadra won't support. Uh, so, I'm 
still wondering...

-David

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Re: cable question

[byard pidgeon]

I think those are for networking...Mac local talk maybe?

- Original Message - 
From: "raino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Quadlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 5:19 PM
Subject: cable question


> Anyone know what a cable that at first 
> glance looks like a printer cable but
> on closer inspection of the pin outs
> it only has three pins at 12 o'clock,
> 3 and 9 o'clock positions with
> a small black rectangle at the six
> o'clock position? Like this:
> 
> .
> 
> ..
> #
> 
> (Picture it in a circle, okay?)
> 
> I have one cable that is huge, eighty
> miles (!) long and then four that are 4 and 6
> footers.
> Mike? Kyle?
> 
> thanks
> raino
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AOL Instant Messanger Woes

[Nathan Town]

Hey Quaddies,
   Back again, I'm still having memory problems with AIM, I did ask on 
another list, using the once removed rule, and got an suggestion to 
remove the stock ticker, well that helped only a little, now it takes 
longer to give me a type one error. I've turned off everything I can find 
to turn off that may cause memory problems, and I can't get anywhere. 
Anymore help would be appreciated.
God Bless,
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Re: cable question

[Dana Collins]

> From: the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist)
> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:14:55 -0400
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist)
> Subject: Re: cable question
> 
> At 17:19 -0700 on 15/07/01, raino wrote:
> 
>> Anyone know what a cable that at first
>> glance looks like a printer cable but
>> on closer inspection of the pin outs
>> it only has three pins at 12 o'clock,
>> 3 and 9 o'clock positions with
>> a small black rectangle at the six
>> o'clock position? Like this:
> 
> AppleTalk proprietary cabling.  It was a MiniDIN-4 cable IIRC, and, well,
> they're like PhoneNet but less useful.
> 
> p
I have three sets of them (connectors, cables - about 6-12'-and male-to-male
plugs that act as extenders) that I'll never use.
If you want'em, reach me off-list, first come, first served, no charge. :-)
Dana


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Re: cable question

[the pickle]

At 17:19 -0700 on 15/07/01, raino wrote:

>Anyone know what a cable that at first
>glance looks like a printer cable but
>on closer inspection of the pin outs
>it only has three pins at 12 o'clock,
>3 and 9 o'clock positions with
>a small black rectangle at the six
>o'clock position? Like this:

AppleTalk proprietary cabling.  It was a MiniDIN-4 cable IIRC, and, well,
they're like PhoneNet but less useful.

p
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Re: cable question

[Tina Holm]

At 17:19 -0700 15/07/01, raino wrote:
>Anyone know what a cable that at first
>glance looks like a printer cable but
>on closer inspection of the pin outs
>it only has three pins at 12 o'clock,
>3 and 9 o'clock positions with
>a small black rectangle at the six
>o'clock position? Like this:

An Apple Talk cable.

Tina


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Re: LC III HD recognition

[Hardy Menagh]

 Many thanks pickle, There's a slight chance that I may be able to
scrounge ResEdit from a friend or possibly a relative... On second
thought, I'd be happy to pay postage and floppy cost to anyone who can
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Re: thanks

[Dana Collins]

A quick note before I forget:

My thanks to all who assisted in getting me a copy of SCSIProbe 4.3
Got it and I'm off and running. These lists are simply fab!
Best regards,
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cable question

[raino]

Anyone know what a cable that at first 
glance looks like a printer cable but
on closer inspection of the pin outs
it only has three pins at 12 o'clock,
3 and 9 o'clock positions with
a small black rectangle at the six
o'clock position? Like this:

.

..
#

(Picture it in a circle, okay?)

I have one cable that is huge, eighty
miles (!) long and then four that are 4 and 6
footers.
Mike? Kyle?

thanks
raino

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Re: LC III HD recognition

[the pickle]

At 15:22 -0400 on 15/07/01, Hardy Menagh wrote:

>  Thanks pickle. Yes, I have the original "Disk Tools" floppy for 7.6.
>HD SC Setup is also installed on the aforementioned Zip disk (boot &
>utilities). It's what the Tech Services Rep. told me to use. I explained
>to him that neither the LC III nor the HD SC Setup would recognise the

Hack HD SC Setup to recognise the HD.  There are directions in the FAQ for
the hack, which takes about two minutes with ResEdit.

In the likely event you don't have ResEdit, who wants to volunteer to send
this guy a floppy with the hacked HD SC Setup on it?

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Q950 PPC card wanted.

[David]

Does anyone have a PPC card for a Q950 they would like to sell?  E-mail
offlist.

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Re: Iomega Zips

[J.M.P.Hissel]

Bruce Guthrie14-07-2001 02:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> So far I have been lucky with my Zip 100. It was given to me by a lady
> friend who had said her company would throw them out. Well that was two
> years ago so I have more then gotten my worth out of it. I have heard that
> the 250 will read the 100's with no problem, has anyone tried this? If so
> let us all know.

Zip 250 reads and writes 100MB and 250MB Zip-disks.

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Re: I saw the light

[Gene Osburn]

> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:49:05 -0400
> Subject: Re: I saw the light
> From: Tracy Keirns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>  I love playing around with my assortment of Macs and proving to others that
> they can still be useful even though they seem to be old and outdated.  I
> have introduced 2 friends to the internet with LC 475's that I fixed up for
> them, and they are now hooked!

I guess great minds think alike! ;-)
I have two 475s (and a Q605 on the way) that I'm getting spiffed up -
*PERFECT* as an  inexpensive intro to the world of Mac computing.  My
sister and bother-in-law (no typo) are delighted with my first 475
'conversion project'I'm now actively seeking more friends to ambush.
My collection of LC-class units is growing much too quickly, though. 
But I swear I'm gonna sell 'em soon - really, I am...!

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Re: mail client

[William Haisch]

I use an ancient version of Eudora v1.2 or so.  I don't remember off hand.
Very quick.  There is also Eudora Lite and Claris Emailer Lite.

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Re: LC III HD recognition

[Hardy Menagh]

  Thanks pickle. Yes, I have the original "Disk Tools" floppy for 7.6.
HD SC Setup is also installed on the aforementioned Zip disk (boot &
utilities). It's what the Tech Services Rep. told me to use. I explained
to him that neither the LC III nor the HD SC Setup would recognise the
new HD, and didn't hear from him again.
   The IIsi (27Mhz) is currently running 7.6 with all networking and
internet extensions removed (easy to re-install). It would also be no
problem to install HD SC Setup if there is a way to make it work.
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Re: Strange Boot Behavior of Q840

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In a message dated 7/6/01 11:26:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 16:05:57 -0600

Subject: Strange Boot Behavior of Q840 

From: William Hatchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Today, before I could check the PRAM battery in the Quadra 840AV which has 
been showing some strange boot behavior (posted earlier to the list), it 
displayed the "sad Mac" startup screen with a terrible calamity-style sound 
which I've never before heard on a Mac.  The monitor wasn't as yet activated 
so I only heard the sound but I'm sure it's the "sad Mac" thing.  Can anyone 
tell me for sure if this is just one more indication of a dead PRAM battery?

The discussion responses had narrowed the culprits down to either a dead PRAM 
battery or a failing power supply.  Will change out the battery at any rate, 
and who knows...my problems may then vanish.  Geesh, the Q840 case is a pain 
to remove and then to get to the mobo is another chore!  ;-)


Thanks!


Bill

 >>

Most likely NOT the battery. My only symptoms on a 840 were the bad date and 
other settings not being remembered after shutdown. Mine went bad about a 
year before I got brave enough to open that terrible case you mentioned. I 
wanted to wait until I got a memory stick and a 2nd harddrive before I 
replaced the battery. Then, of course, I put the wrong (dead) battery back 
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List Netiquette

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Thanks!

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updated 2001:07:15

There are informal rules of the Internet which are termed netiquette to 
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Re: LC III HD recognition

[the pickle]

At 11:08 -0400 on 15/07/01, Hardy Menagh wrote:

>  I installed a new (used) 540mb HD in my LC III. This was purchased
>online from a company who specifically mentioned LC IIIs and other older
>Macs as being able to use their reformatted drives. The unit is a

Sounds to me like the geniuses in the service department...

>Seagate (Conner) 5400rpm and made for IBM. I Installed it and the system
>wouldn't recognise it. I booted from a Zip drive with OS 7.6 and a few
>utilities. The SCSI Probe listed it correctly but when I clicked Mount,
>the message said "The large volume connected to your computer cannot be
>used because a 68040 or PowerPC CPU is required for volume sizes larger

...formatted it as HFS Plus.  SCSI Probe is wrong in its *reason* for the
error, but it's right in that a 68040 or PPC is required for HFS Plus
access.

>   Ok, so I ran Norton Disk Editor, started weeding through the code and
>found some OS 8.1 elements on the disk, also some text Telling me that
>in order to load 7.5 - 7.6.x, I would need either another drive with
>8.1, or another computer with 8.1. I don't have these available to me. I

Bingo.  HFS Plus for sure.

>could use Norton to wipe the disk but I'm guessing that it still won't
>be recognised by the system. Am I correct about this?

Probably not.  Don't use Norton, though; use HD SC Setup.  If you need a
copy, it's in the FAQ.  Hopefully you already have it.

>   My main question is, is there any relatively cheap way to get this
>disk to work with my LC III? Bear in mind that I am currently only on
>line with a WebTV (insert a stream of blue language) and can't download
>anything. The only option I can see right now is to eat the postage both

Ah.  Hrm...who wants to send this guy a floppy with HD SC Setup on it?

>ways and pay a 15% restock fee. This company has been no help in the
>Tech Support area. I have a working IIsi with a 240mb HD if that can be

What OS does it have on it?  Does it have HD SC Setup on the HD anywhere?
Or any other disk formatter?

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Re: Question on Performa 577

[the pickle]

At 01:57 -0700 on 15/07/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I was given a Perf 577 with a bed monitor and no HD.
>Booting from a floppy, I got the Bong; I was able to eject the floppy
>with  E.
>My question is : How to test to know for sure what 's the problem and how
>to fix it.

You probably have a problem with the analogue board; unless you are
experienced in fixing that sort of thing, it's probably more trouble than
it's worth.  Take the motherboard out and put it in a Colo(u)r Classic :)

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Need QuickDraw standard fonts

[Ken Bakalar]

I installed 7.6.1 on my Quadra 610. It works great, but I have a problem on
boot.I get this warning message every time:
"The installed substitution fonts are designed for use with QuickDraw GX.
Please remove them and install the standard QuickDraw versions." Everything
seems to work okay in spite of this message.

Any advice out there? I have an original 7.6.1 CD. Are the required fonts on
there somewhere?

(I am using the Epson drivers for a Stylus Color 900G, which works fine. I
also loaded EpsonShare. The Quadra is acting as the print server on an
Airport-based network.)

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LC III HD recognition

[Hardy Menagh]

  I installed a new (used) 540mb HD in my LC III. This was purchased
online from a company who specifically mentioned LC IIIs and other older
Macs as being able to use their reformatted drives. The unit is a
Seagate (Conner) 5400rpm and made for IBM. I Installed it and the system
wouldn't recognise it. I booted from a Zip drive with OS 7.6 and a few
utilities. The SCSI Probe listed it correctly but when I clicked Mount,
the message said "The large volume connected to your computer cannot be
used because a 68040 or PowerPC CPU is required for volume sizes larger
than 4 gigabytes." This HD was supposed to come Mac formatted with
Anubis Drive Utility software and 100mb of shareware.
   Ok, so I ran Norton Disk Editor, started weeding through the code and
found some OS 8.1 elements on the disk, also some text Telling me that
in order to load 7.5 - 7.6.x, I would need either another drive with
8.1, or another computer with 8.1. I don't have these available to me. I
could use Norton to wipe the disk but I'm guessing that it still won't
be recognised by the system. Am I correct about this?
   My main question is, is there any relatively cheap way to get this
disk to work with my LC III? Bear in mind that I am currently only on
line with a WebTV (insert a stream of blue language) and can't download
anything. The only option I can see right now is to eat the postage both
ways and pay a 15% restock fee. This company has been no help in the
Tech Support area. I have a working IIsi with a 240mb HD if that can be
useful in any way.
   Sorry about the length, but I like to provide as much information as
I can. Thanks,  Hardy


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Bezel?

[Eric Schwarz]

Does someone have (or know a cheap source) a tray-load CD bezel for a Quadra
800 (this would also be for 840AV/PM8100/8500)?  I have an almost finished
Quadra that has been upgraded and I really want to get a bezel for it.

Thanks,
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Re: printer?

[BigMomma]

Hi.
The error is -39. And the message is  "installer cannot be opened"
  Thanks Again.
  Jaq

Dana Collins wrote:
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> > From: BigMomma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist)
> > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:05:58 -0400
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist)
> > Subject: printer?
> >
> > Hi.
> > I finally got my Quadra 650 going and would like to hook up a printer.
> > When I tried to instal the software for an Epson StylusColor11 I get a
> > message 'this disk cannot be opened due to error 38' or something like
> > that. Would anybody have any idea what this means? I have system 8.1 on
> > it and 24megs of ram.
> > Thanks
> > Jaq Stewart
> Without knowing more details, Jaq, my first guess would be an incompatible
> (either too old or too new) O.S. Is it positive or negative 38? Positive
> doesn't even register on any of the lists I have, and -38 is a "file not
> open" code.
> Best regards,
> Dana
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Re: Question on Performa 577

[kobay3]

Hi everyone,
I was given a Perf 577 with a bed monitor and no HD.
Booting from a floppy, I got the Bong; I was able to eject the floppy 
with  E.
My question is : How to test to know for sure what 's the problem and how
to fix it.
TIA
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