back on topic - 610 RAM

2002-12-19 Thread J Sand 

On my 610, will 2x16 be enough RAM, or should I go ahead and invest in 2x32 
RAM sticks.  The machine is mostly going to be used for surfing by 56k modem 
and some word processing functions.

If the extra RAM will make it able to do image manipulations, even slowly 
compared to today's standards, it would be worth it for me.

Thanks,

John


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Re: back on topic

2002-12-19 Thread Sque 
Michael Dawe wrote:

>on 19/12/2002, Sque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>Nick at AppleBits has a good stash of stuff:
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Excellent, its the ones under your nose you miss, cheaper than ebay. :)
Thanks. Haven't tried Doom on a 68k does it multiplayer well? Do you use 
a different port of Doom or ID's?



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Re: DiskCopy

2002-12-19 Thread the pickle 
At 09:14 -0500 on 19/12/02, Charles Estabrooks wrote:

>I'll probably post this to the powermacs list as well, but...
>
>When trying to make floppy disks from disk images, I am only able to make
>them successfuly on my 68K machines (using DiskCopy 4.2), including my
>Quadra 650.  When I try on my PowerMacs, DiskCopy (v 6.3.3) fails about 90%
>of the time.  Any ideas?

Does 4.2 work on the PPCs, and does 6.3.x work on the 650?
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Re: Q950 upgrade was Re: NO MORE "WARNING!" Messages

2002-12-19 Thread the pickle 
At 07:49 -0100 on 19/12/02, Ian Moffatt wrote:

>**Quadlist content warning**

LOL!

>Anyone upgraded a Q950 by putting a PPC motherboard in? I think the NuBus
>option may be easier though.

Only mobo that fits is that from the Workgroup Server 9150, and they're not
only rare, but also very valuable as complete systems...

>Also, I've fitted a Teac CDR but cannot mount CD's on the desktop but it's
>fine for writing them. Any ideas?

Got the driver installed for reading CDs?
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Re: Excuse me?

2002-12-19 Thread the pickle 
At 08:12 -0600 on 19/12/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>> Might I suggest that everyone start updating emailing filters so this
>>> flame-fest can fade away already?
>>>
>>
>> I get Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] of Illinois as a match, you might
>> check for yourself and add to filters as you see fit and I do suggest
>> not taking my word for it.
>
>I don't know what that meant, but I assure you, I had no part in any of the
>temper tantrums and didn't post to that thread.

Yeah, uh, I'm not sure what the heck Keith has to do with this.  Leave him out
of it.  You wanna filter me, great.  Go right ahead.  I don't care.  But I
would suggest you filter people like our friend who has admitted responsibility
for the very unfounded *attacks* on LEM's advertisers...
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Re: NO MORE "WARNING!" Messages

2002-12-19 Thread E McCann 
At 11:33 AM 12/19/2002, Jim Lunceford typed thusly:

>Please correct for grammer, content and netiquette and reply to:

Unfortunately, my grammer died several years ago, about the time of the 
last quadras, and therefore never had to worry about netiquette

-Eric


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Re: Nanny interference etc.

2002-12-19 Thread Jim Lunceford 
Thanks R.A.

Jim

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"R.A. Cantrell" wrote:

> on 12/19/02 3:56 PM, vincenzo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >> Please correct for grammer, content and netiquette and reply to:
> > I don't do this as my own grammer spelling etc is not that great.
> grammar, superfluous
>
> Always glad to help.
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Re: Nanny interference etc.

2002-12-19 Thread R.A. Cantrell 
on 12/19/02 3:56 PM, vincenzo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Please correct for grammer, content and netiquette and reply to:
> I don't do this as my own grammer spelling etc is not that great.
grammar, superfluous

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Nanny interference etc.

2002-12-19 Thread vincenzo 
Jim

>Due to the fact that nothing on this list seems to be O.T. at this
>point, I thought I'd just ignore the the policy of writing directly
>to you and just send it to list.

As most who subscribe to the list are adults, I try not to interfere too 
much with the day to day running of the List. In this area I agree with 
the List Mom - these are his ideals.

When the posturing gets to flaming etc, I merely suggested that it be 
taken off list as it has no place for general reading. We have over 400+ 
subscribers to the list so if you want to look like a XX (insert 
appropriate word here) person in front of them then please flame someone 
on the list BUT and I mean a big BUT, expect to suffer the consequences, 
that is suspension and or banning.

>Please correct for grammer, content and netiquette and reply to:
I don't do this as my own grammer spelling etc is not that great.

Hope this is of some help. 

I have been with this particular list two to three weeks after it started 
in November 1997 and even now still find it a valueable resource. Think 
of it in terms of mining - sometimes you have to move a lot of s*it to 
get to the gems.



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Re: NO MORE "WARNING!" Messages

2002-12-19 Thread Jim Lunceford 
List Nanny:

Due to the fact that nothing on this list seems to be O.T. at this
point, I thought I'd just ignore the the policy of writing directly
to you and just send it to list.

I have a suggestion.I think we should start a new list. We could call
it "The NO MORE WARNING, NETIQUETTE and GRAMMER list. That way no one
would have to  put a stop to or cease all their supurlative B.S.

As a side effect, anyone who wanted to read or write about "Quads"
could do so undestracted.

Please correct for grammer, content and netiquette and reply to:

Jim Lunceford 
on list
Thanks


  
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> At 22:08 -0700 on 17/12/02, J Sand wrote:
> 
>> None were meant to be an attack.  I get just as frustrated as you do about
> 
> I'm a blunt person, so I'll put this bluntly.  While John's might not have
> been, mine certainly was.  If you're so *stupid* that you can't even take two
> seconds to figure out *WHY* you might be getting these messages and doing
> something about them, I'm sorry, but I'd rather not have you around, and I
> certainly don't want you flooding the list with your drivel.
> 
> See what you started?
> 
> Yeah, now fix it or get out.
I didn't mean to start anything I just don't like being spammed.

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Top Post Time Again?

2002-12-19 Thread J Sand 
>Think we can all do without the grammer lesson.
>Top posted for your reading convience.
>
Top post time again?  I thought that topic had been finalized by the list 
nanny already. I guess not. Convenience should not take over the the set 
upon agreements of protocol because one person thinks so.  As to the grammar 
lesson, it is a lesson worth learning if it helps me to learn how to 
communicate better.

Misspellings of a word, or out of context, can convey the wrong thought 
other than intended when read by another.

Sew is it write knot two spend the thyme too review watt is sent too another 
four clarity?

So is it right not to spend the time to review what is sent to another for 
clarity?

This is not meant as an attack on anyone, just a desire for clearer 
communication between us all.

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Re: Excuse me?

2002-12-19 Thread Sque 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>I get Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] of Illinois as a match, you might
>>check for yourself and add to filters as you see fit and I do suggest
>>not taking my word for it.
>>
>>
>
>I don't know what that meant, but I assure you, I had no part in any of the
>temper tantrums and didn't post to that thread.
>

A very irresponsible post.
There is one link which you should see very plainly between some of your 
posts to LEM an those of [EMAIL PROTECTED] to this list. I apologize 
without reserve for suggesting your name as one that should be checked. 
One of my more stupid posts, my apologies to the list.

If anyone else wishes to kick my butt, offlist please.

>  
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Re: -sigh- was:[Re: NO MORE "WARNING!" Messages]

2002-12-19 Thread Paul Stamsen 
At 7:51 -0600, 12/19/02,   (Danny Saul)  observed:



 I wish to thank all you who supported me, I was half awake when I posted
 that and I could of phrased it better, but the pickle and the other went out
 of bounds to probe my e-mail for the slightest errors in spelling and
 grammar after I had been awake you 20 minutes.
 Nice going I applaud you in your great efforts in making your self a fool.
 Good night and a great holiday season.



 Hopefully Vincenzo is sleeping.
 However, there are two nannies on this list.

The only ones  who get to have the last word on this subject is a nanny.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] has been banned.
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Re: ATTO SE II vs. ATTO SE IV

2002-12-19 Thread Nathes 
I guess it might depend on what version of the Avid software you are 
running, as the software expects to see certain things before it'll load.  With 
 Media Composer v5 on the Q950 the IV was used (that's what I've got), 
and depending on what resolutions you are using (ie up to AVR3) you could 
use the Q950s built in SCSI port.

-Nathes 

> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:42:20 +0800
> From: "MICHAEL BRADLEY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: ATTO SE II vs. ATTO SE IV
> 
> Hi guys,
> I've  a dead Sillicon express II, and I'm trying to find out if a Sillicon =
> express IV is an acceptable replacement for it.
> This card is being used in a Q950, as an Avid video editor.


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DiskCopy

2002-12-19 Thread Charles Estabrooks 
I'll probably post this to the powermacs list as well, but...

When trying to make floppy disks from disk images, I am only able to make
them successfuly on my 68K machines (using DiskCopy 4.2), including my
Quadra 650.  When I try on my PowerMacs, DiskCopy (v 6.3.3) fails about 90%
of the time.  Any ideas?

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Excuse me?

2002-12-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Might I suggest that everyone start updating emailing filters so this
>> flame-fest can fade away already?
>> 
> 
> I get Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] of Illinois as a match, you might
> check for yourself and add to filters as you see fit and I do suggest
> not taking my word for it.

I don't know what that meant, but I assure you, I had no part in any of the
temper tantrums and didn't post to that thread.


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Re: back on topic

2002-12-19 Thread Michael Dawe 
on 19/12/2002, Sque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone in Oz got a spare Q800 (there abouts) case I can drop this Q800
> board into, I've found it very hard to bring myself to swapping the 700
> board out of its ugly box, this particular box must have spent life in
> direct sunlight in a mechanics garage full of smokers. The Q950 wasn't
> working so I passed on the shipping. To my great shame a 840 was sold
> for $26 usd and I didn't wake up in time to snipe the auction. :( Lucky
> bugger, last one sold for $270 AUD picked up by a list member so I guess
> it got a good home.

Nick at AppleBits has a good stash of stuff:


He has an 800 mobo listed (no case), but has an 840av case with broken mobo
for Aus$20 + postage from Melbourne (if you're local you can pick up)
and working Q650, 700, 950s for Aus$20 - $40. etc.

> Anyway I'd like to get 2 quads to play warcraft. You up for a tcp game
> Eric? :)
> 
> Xmas soon, end of the year, tensions run high. Good thing 3D ultra
> pinball runs.

I feel the same way about DOOM :-)

Mike


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-sigh- was:[Re: NO MORE "WARNING!" Messages]

2002-12-19 Thread Danny Saul 
I wish to thank all you who supported me, I was half awake when I posted
that and I could of phrased it better, but the pickle and the other went out
of bounds to probe my e-mail for the slightest errors in spelling and
grammar after I had been awake you 20 minutes.
Nice going I applaud you in your great efforts in making your self a fool.
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Re: NO MORE "WARNING!" Messages

2002-12-19 Thread Danny Saul 
On 12/18/02 8:47 AM, "the pickle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 22:08 -0700 on 17/12/02, J Sand wrote:
> 
>> None were meant to be an attack.  I get just as frustrated as you do about
> 
> I'm a blunt person, so I'll put this bluntly.  While John's might not have
> been, mine certainly was.  If you're so *stupid* that you can't even take two
> seconds to figure out *WHY* you might be getting these messages and doing
> something about them, I'm sorry, but I'd rather not have you around, and I
> certainly don't want you flooding the list with your drivel.
> 
> See what you started?
> 
> Yeah, now fix it or get out.
I didn't mean to start anything I just don't like being spammed.


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Re: Grammar [ was Re: NO MORE "WARNING!" Messages ]

2002-12-19 Thread Sque 
Think we can all do without the grammer lesson.
Top posted for your reading convience.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>
>But "me and whoever" is quite correct, if used in the accusative.
>
>e.g. My father sent me and whoever away to school.
>
>
>
>  
>
>>I guess my English teachers back in school did their job well.  It is ironic because 
>my children say "me and whoever" instead of "whoever and I".  I cringe at that, but 
>it seems to be common to use The English language as to what is convenient in form 
>and not necessarily what was once considered "proper" English anymore.
>>
>>
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Grammar [ was Re: NO MORE "WARNING!" Messages ]

2002-12-19 Thread mriscott 


But "me and whoever" is quite correct, if used in the accusative.

e.g. My father sent me and whoever away to school.



> 
> I guess my English teachers back in school did their job well.  It is ironic 
> because my children say "me and whoever" instead of "whoever and I".  I 
> cringe at that, but it seems to be common to use The English language as to 
> what is convenient in form and not necessarily what was once considered 
> "proper" English anymore.
> 

The chief cause of problems is solutions.


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Re: Apple & Mac computers?

2002-12-19 Thread David Wood 
At 4:57 PM -0700 12/18/02, Terry Ovans wrote:
>Can anyone tell me where to find some information on older Apple and
>Macintosh computers.  I have 8 of them and would like to know what
>makes them tick, how to fix them, & other technical stuff like that.
>

Terry,

Make your first stop the excellent Low-End Mac FAQ
, created and maintained by the pickle.

Next, sort through all the resources available at 
the LOW End Mac site. The item list down the right side of this page is a
good place to start.

And if you have time to browse a bit give a visit to both "Resources for
the Older Macintosh" at  and
"Resources for Specific Macintosh Computers" at
.

When you have a more specific question/problem then There are several
PowerMac email newsletters where you can get help. There is a very nice
selection of these at .

As a subscriber (it's free) you can post (e-mail) your question(s) to the
group and you'll get back lots of answers from people much more "expert"
than I am. Be as specific as possible in your question giving them the
computer type, operating system version, harddrive size, amount of RAM,
name and version of any application(s) causing problems, etc. etc. In other
words, whatever you think might help the experts trouble-shoot your problem.

Luck in your Mac "education"...

dw

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Re: Trying to drag back on topic

2002-12-19 Thread Sque 


E McCann wrote:

>Um... looks like someone tried to take this offlist... and it got dragged 
>back on.
>

Um... thats a no-no :) Such a shame to throw a tantrum like that, ya 
feel like a tosser later on.

>Might I suggest that everyone start updating emailing filters so this 
>flame-fest can fade away already?
>

I get Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] of Illinois as a match, you might 
check for yourself and add to filters as you see fit and I do suggest 
not taking my word for it.

>In the meantime... down to two Q840AVs and the trusty 800. No idea why the 
>third has flaked out... it's currently living in storage anyway... but the 
>700s still work! (There's just something about those 700s and they run 
>Warcraft so well.)
>

Anyone in Oz got a spare Q800 (there abouts) case I can drop this Q800 
board into, I've found it very hard to bring myself to swapping the 700 
board out of its ugly box, this particular box must have spent life in 
direct sunlight in a mechanics garage full of smokers. The Q950 wasn't 
working so I passed on the shipping. To my great shame a 840 was sold 
for $26 usd and I didn't wake up in time to snipe the auction. :( Lucky 
bugger, last one sold for $270 AUD picked up by a list member so I guess 
it got a good home.

Anyway I'd like to get 2 quads to play warcraft. You up for a tcp game 
Eric? :)

Xmas soon, end of the year, tensions run high. Good thing 3D ultra 
pinball runs.




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Re: Apple & Mac computers

2002-12-19 Thread Sque 
  Terry Ovans wrote:

>Can anyone tell me where to find some information on older Apple and 
>Macintosh computers.  I have 8 of them and would like to know what 
>makes them tick, how to fix them, & other technical stuff like that.
>  
>
You might try the FAQ, http://macfaq.org/  
Gamba's http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2
My favorite Marten's http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html
Mark's Flatpack's http://fpm.gotdns.com
 
They will all have link pages for different stuff and are 68k friendly 
sites to surf, I think.
Heaps more out there, have fun.



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Trying to drag back on topic Re: NO MORE "WARNING!" Messages

2002-12-19 Thread E McCann 
Um... looks like someone tried to take this offlist... and it got dragged 
back on.

Might I suggest that everyone start updating emailing filters so this 
flame-fest can fade away already?

In the meantime... down to two Q840AVs and the trusty 800. No idea why the 
third has flaked out... it's currently living in storage anyway... but the 
700s still work! (There's just something about those 700s and they run 
Warcraft so well.)

-Eric


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