Re: 630 (Another Fellow)

[Scott Holder]

At 01:46 AM 6/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>At 23:14 -0400 on 27/06/02, Ted Goranson wrote:
>
> >Actually, the idea of a dedicated MP3 jukebox/player sounds even
> >better. I could hook up a big scsi disk and (I suppose) some
> >speakers. Only problem is that iTunes needs an OS that the quadra
>
>That, and you can't play MP3s - at least not with playlist support - on a
>Quad anyway.
>
>the pickle

mpegdec2 will play a list of files if you drop a bunch on it. No way to 
control except quit though ;)

Scott Holder



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Re: 630 (Another Fellow)

[the pickle]

At 23:14 -0400 on 27/06/02, Ted Goranson wrote:

>Actually, the idea of a dedicated MP3 jukebox/player sounds even
>better. I could hook up a big scsi disk and (I suppose) some
>speakers. Only problem is that iTunes needs an OS that the quadra

That, and you can't play MP3s - at least not with playlist support - on a
Quad anyway.

the pickle

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Re: 630 (Another Fellow)

[E McCann]

At 05:27 PM 6/27/02 -0400, you wrote:

>that email, word processing and browsing is better done on the modern
>machines I (and most macophiles usually) have?

Ahh, but ARE they, really... can you REALLY word process better on a dual 
G4-1ghz Mac than on a 630? Or IIsi for that matter? (Graphics work, well, 
I'll give ya.) Anyway...

I will agree to the server - though you don't want to hang speakers on it 
for an MP3 server, it won't run (OK, there's talk about ONE MP3 player for 
68k macs, but still...)

New and unusual. Hmmm. Well, I have Mac IIs, IIcis, and IIcx's as a TV 
stand, but that's not making the most of a 630, now, is it

Gut it if it doesn't work. Put in a glass top. Turn it into a hotplate.

Not creative, but what the heck, just use it for classic games (Marathon, 
Ares Rising, Escape Velocity) that are 68k based (I know, some of those are 
dual mode, but... *shrug*)



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Re: 630 (Another Fellow)

[Ted Goranson]

>At 15:18 -0400 on 27/06/02, Ted Goranson wrote:
>
>>"LC PDS," "communication," and "video in" slots. It has no SCSI or
>>ethernet that I can see.
>
>Ethernet had to be added, but SCSI is that 25-pin D-sub connector on the back.

Yes. I was wrong about the scsi.

>  >I am struggling with whether to invest energy in this. If someone is
>>willing to help (or point to a Faq), I have the following questions:
>
>Like the one linked in every list footer and my signature? :)

No, not like that one. Like one that actually talks about what new 
and unusual uses can be found for all these older machines.

>  >What do people use these things for if you already have machines for
>>real work? I was thinking of a backup server, but I can see no
>
>Fun? :)  Network MP3 server is a common use for the 630s since they have
>IDE and can easily serve up MP3s over a 10BaseT connection.  Ethernet cards
>are cheap.  Then there's always "do something crazy and make a name for
>yourself" like the folks at AppleFritter...

Now *this* is a really intriguing idea, the MP3 server.

Actually, the idea of a dedicated MP3 jukebox/player sounds even 
better. I could hook up a big scsi disk and (I suppose) some 
speakers. Only problem is that iTunes needs an OS that the quadra 
won't run. Am I wrong? And if it is not iTunes with Applescript is it 
worth it?

What benefit is there to hanging the disk on a server rather than on 
the machine that actually plays the tunes?

That Applefritters site is pretty interesting. Thanks.

Best, Ted
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Re: 630 (Another Fellow)

[the pickle]

At 15:18 -0400 on 27/06/02, Ted Goranson wrote:

>"LC PDS," "communication," and "video in" slots. It has no SCSI or
>ethernet that I can see.

Ethernet had to be added, but SCSI is that 25-pin D-sub connector on the back.

>I am struggling with whether to invest energy in this. If someone is
>willing to help (or point to a Faq), I have the following questions:

Like the one linked in every list footer and my signature? :)

>What do people use these things for if you already have machines for
>real work? I was thinking of a backup server, but I can see no

Fun? :)  Network MP3 server is a common use for the 630s since they have
IDE and can easily serve up MP3s over a 10BaseT connection.  Ethernet cards
are cheap.  Then there's always "do something crazy and make a name for
yourself" like the folks at AppleFritter...

the pickle

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Re: 630 (Another Fellow)

[Ted Goranson]

Right. I know that I can do all these things, because I did them all 
on similar machines years ago. My question is somewhat different. Are 
there any *new and unusual* uses for these, things that recognize 
that email, word processing and browsing is better done on the modern 
machines I (and most macophiles usually) have?

Best, Ted

>Is it useful? Depends on what you want to do with it. I'm setting them up
>for students, f'rinstance, with WordPerfect... works nicely. A friend of
>mine uses the one he has as his main machine pretty much every day. It's
>somewhat slow on web browsing (but he's using IE 4,) works for email, and
>he's got some specific programs he uses with it for his hobby...
>
>You can, of course, track down Word 6, Excel 4 or 5, etc. for it as well.
>Pop in the full 68040 for the math coprocessor and put in Quark XPress 3,
>Photoshop 3, Illustrator 6...
>
>There's still a lot that can be done with the system. *shrug* If worst
>comes to worst, use it as an email system. 
>
>  >What do people use these things for if you already have machines for
>>real work? I was thinking of a backup server, but I can see no
>>benefit from offloading that from my main machine. And because no
>>ethernet or scsi this machine is disqualified. One thing I really
>>miss from the old days was my YoYo caller ID device. That alone is
>>what I am thinking will motivate this project: a standalone, high
>  >class caller management center.

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Re: 630 (Another Fellow)

[E McCann]

First, head to http://www.lowendmac.com/quadra/q630.shtml

Now, I've got a stack of 630-series (Performa 631-638s) - one of which is 
rather nicely set up with video in (cable and composite,) network card...

The SCSI isn't on the mainboard, as I recall. However, the CD ROM is SCSI. 
The hard disk is IDE. It can (IIRC) only use a single IDE drive, not 
master/slave as in the PC world (they figured that out later.)  You can 
always put a full 68040 in, as this uses the 68LC040.

Is it useful? Depends on what you want to do with it. I'm setting them up 
for students, f'rinstance, with WordPerfect... works nicely. A friend of 
mine uses the one he has as his main machine pretty much every day. It's 
somewhat slow on web browsing (but he's using IE 4,) works for email, and 
he's got some specific programs he uses with it for his hobby...

You can, of course, track down Word 6, Excel 4 or 5, etc. for it as well. 
Pop in the full 68040 for the math coprocessor and put in Quark XPress 3, 
Photoshop 3, Illustrator 6...

There's still a lot that can be done with the system. *shrug* If worst 
comes to worst, use it as an email system. 

-Eric

At 03:18 PM 6/27/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello--
>
>I am new to the list, and just in time to find some discussion on
>what brings me here: a Q630.
>
>I use a G3 and G4 for my real work, but have inherited this machine.
>It is supposed to be broken, but I assume that the problem is Norton
>or reinstall fixable. This machine has one memory slot, and vacant
>"LC PDS," "communication," and "video in" slots. It has no SCSI or
>ethernet that I can see.
>
>I am struggling with whether to invest energy in this. If someone is
>willing to help (or point to a Faq), I have the following questions:
>
>What do people use these things for if you already have machines for
>real work? I was thinking of a backup server, but I can see no
>benefit from offloading that from my main machine. And because no
>ethernet or scsi this machine is disqualified. One thing I really
>miss from the old days was my YoYo caller ID device. That alone is
>what I am thinking will motivate this project: a standalone, high
>class caller management center.
>
>But then, I'll have to probably go with a non-yoyo solution. I see
>that there are some shareware products that work with some modems.
>This seems ideal. Does anyone do this?
>
>On the other hand, I have an old Intel box (pentium 90) that can
>probably host a linux or windows solution that may be nicer. I have
>scant experience with non-Mac boxes but have someone whose experience
>I can tap. Would you go with a free '40 Mac for this, or a free
>Pentium box?
>
>Best, Ted
>
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Re: 630 (Another Fellow)

[Ted Goranson]

Hello--

I am new to the list, and just in time to find some discussion on 
what brings me here: a Q630.

I use a G3 and G4 for my real work, but have inherited this machine. 
It is supposed to be broken, but I assume that the problem is Norton 
or reinstall fixable. This machine has one memory slot, and vacant 
"LC PDS," "communication," and "video in" slots. It has no SCSI or 
ethernet that I can see.

I am struggling with whether to invest energy in this. If someone is 
willing to help (or point to a Faq), I have the following questions:

What do people use these things for if you already have machines for 
real work? I was thinking of a backup server, but I can see no 
benefit from offloading that from my main machine. And because no 
ethernet or scsi this machine is disqualified. One thing I really 
miss from the old days was my YoYo caller ID device. That alone is 
what I am thinking will motivate this project: a standalone, high 
class caller management center.

But then, I'll have to probably go with a non-yoyo solution. I see 
that there are some shareware products that work with some modems. 
This seems ideal. Does anyone do this?

On the other hand, I have an old Intel box (pentium 90) that can 
probably host a linux or windows solution that may be nicer. I have 
scant experience with non-Mac boxes but have someone whose experience 
I can tap. Would you go with a free '40 Mac for this, or a free 
Pentium box?

Best, Ted

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