Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
there wasn't a good description. does it support mac serial ports? John Haines wrote: What about using a multiprotocol usb print server? Here is an example of 1 that supports appletalk. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=586908Sku=T156-2042%20PCatId=371 - Original Message - From: Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: Re: New printer for Mac 637CD Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:51:41 -0600 From: Jim Raper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New printer for Mac 637CD Hi, Listers, Can someone tell me about a printer other than the old StyleWriters that I can use on my 637CD. I've upgraded the RAM to 64MB and installed a 3 gig HD. It is running OS 8.1 flawlessly. BUT the old StyleWriter 2400 is shot. Is there a modern HP or Epson printer that can be used on this machine? I have recently been through a circus getting an inkjet printer for our house.The issues were to get the best printer I could while still being compatible with at least back to OS 7.6.1 and preferably networkable because I like to have all my printers networked. The house is well wired, so networked printing is convenient. The current crop of inkjet printers (and printers in general) do not have serial ports. They have USB ports and a good many of them still come with a parallel port. There are no USB cards or adapters for the 637CD nor for any other machine which lacks Cardbus and PCI slots. 1) So, you could get one of the adapter kits that lets you connect your Mac to a parallel port printer through the Mac's serial port. The thing is that the kit must come with a driver for your printer or for a language that your printer understands. I think one such kit was called the Orange Grappler? 2) Another option is to get a printer with a network port. Now days that means an ethernet print server or ethernet card. This can get expensive but it can also be very convenient. A printer which is $70 by itself seems to suddenly gain $150 in price the moment you add an ethernet adapter.I miss affordable LocalTalk printers, which USB killed. Darn USB. USB isn't a network media, so it's silly, but there you go. Of course, you need either an ethernet card in your 637 or a LocalTalk to Ethernet bridge such as the Asantetalk in order to connect your 637 to an ethernet capable printer. The last time I checked, Epson had one of their network ready printers on their clearance list for a decent price, but I think it was wifi rather than cabled ethernet. 3) Get an older printer.Here, your choices branch again into an older printer with a serial port or an older printer which is networkable. A) Older printer with a serial port. For example, the Epson Stylus Color 850 was pretty nice and it has a serial port. But, it's resolution is only 1440 X 720 which is not so good by today's standards. It's fine for text. It's not so great for printing photos, but okay. You could check Epson's documentation to find the highest resolution printer which came with the serial port and then buy that one on the used market. The 850 BTW, often goes on Ebay for under $20, but the shipping is about $20. B) An older printer with a network port. Many of the older printers have a LocalTalk port, which looks like a serial port but functions differently.One line of the Epson inkjet printers has a Type B slot which is a proprietary Epson slot, but the cards are fairly available on the used market. The Type B slot can take a LocalTalk card, any of several models of ethernet card (including 10/100) and a few other cards which aren't relevant when you have a 637 on the other end. For example the Epson Stylus Color 980 (there is also a very different Stylus Photo 980) has a type B slot and prints at 2880 X 1440, which is much nicer than the 850. It's also faster. One can install the Epson LocalTalk card or any of several ethernet cards in the B slot. The 980 only has USB and parallel, so you can't connect it to an older Mac without a network card of some type. The documentation for the 980 claims that it requires OS 8 or greater, but that's because it only has the USB port and the USB support requires OS8 or greater on the Mac. Once you install a network card, it works at least back to 7.6.1. 4) If you have a more modern Mac, you can buy a more recent printer, connect it to your recent Mac through USB or Firewire (depending on the printer) and then Share the printer on your network using the software for the printer which allows this. Again, this requires that your 637 be on a network with your other Mac. It also requires that the modern Mac be turned on whenever you wish to print to that printer. Jeff Walther P.S. In my case, I
Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
No, but If you network your mac you can use it as a network printer since the print server supports appletalk. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:56 AM Subject: Re: New printer for Mac 637CD there wasn't a good description. does it support mac serial ports? John Haines wrote: What about using a multiprotocol usb print server? Here is an example of 1 that supports appletalk. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=586908Sku=T156-2042%20PCatId=371 - Original Message - From: Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: Re: New printer for Mac 637CD Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:51:41 -0600 From: Jim Raper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New printer for Mac 637CD Hi, Listers, Can someone tell me about a printer other than the old StyleWriters that I can use on my 637CD. I've upgraded the RAM to 64MB and installed a 3 gig HD. It is running OS 8.1 flawlessly. BUT the old StyleWriter 2400 is shot. Is there a modern HP or Epson printer that can be used on this machine? I have recently been through a circus getting an inkjet printer for our house.The issues were to get the best printer I could while still being compatible with at least back to OS 7.6.1 and preferably networkable because I like to have all my printers networked. The house is well wired, so networked printing is convenient. The current crop of inkjet printers (and printers in general) do not have serial ports. They have USB ports and a good many of them still come with a parallel port. There are no USB cards or adapters for the 637CD nor for any other machine which lacks Cardbus and PCI slots. 1) So, you could get one of the adapter kits that lets you connect your Mac to a parallel port printer through the Mac's serial port. The thing is that the kit must come with a driver for your printer or for a language that your printer understands. I think one such kit was called the Orange Grappler? 2) Another option is to get a printer with a network port. Now days that means an ethernet print server or ethernet card. This can get expensive but it can also be very convenient. A printer which is $70 by itself seems to suddenly gain $150 in price the moment you add an ethernet adapter.I miss affordable LocalTalk printers, which USB killed. Darn USB. USB isn't a network media, so it's silly, but there you go. Of course, you need either an ethernet card in your 637 or a LocalTalk to Ethernet bridge such as the Asantetalk in order to connect your 637 to an ethernet capable printer. The last time I checked, Epson had one of their network ready printers on their clearance list for a decent price, but I think it was wifi rather than cabled ethernet. 3) Get an older printer.Here, your choices branch again into an older printer with a serial port or an older printer which is networkable. A) Older printer with a serial port. For example, the Epson Stylus Color 850 was pretty nice and it has a serial port. But, it's resolution is only 1440 X 720 which is not so good by today's standards. It's fine for text. It's not so great for printing photos, but okay. You could check Epson's documentation to find the highest resolution printer which came with the serial port and then buy that one on the used market. The 850 BTW, often goes on Ebay for under $20, but the shipping is about $20. B) An older printer with a network port. Many of the older printers have a LocalTalk port, which looks like a serial port but functions differently.One line of the Epson inkjet printers has a Type B slot which is a proprietary Epson slot, but the cards are fairly available on the used market. The Type B slot can take a LocalTalk card, any of several models of ethernet card (including 10/100) and a few other cards which aren't relevant when you have a 637 on the other end. For example the Epson Stylus Color 980 (there is also a very different Stylus Photo 980) has a type B slot and prints at 2880 X 1440, which is much nicer than the 850. It's also faster. One can install the Epson LocalTalk card or any of several ethernet cards in the B slot. The 980 only has USB and parallel, so you can't connect it to an older Mac without a network card of some type. The documentation for the 980 claims that it requires OS 8 or greater, but that's because it only has the USB port and the USB support requires OS8 or greater on the Mac. Once you install a network card, it works at least back to 7.6.1. 4) If you have a more modern Mac, you can buy a more recent printer, connect it to your recent Mac
Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
Paul Stamsen wrote: About New printer for Mac 637CD, at 7:51am -0600 on 1/18/04, Jim Raper stated: - Hi, Listers, - - Can someone tell me about a printer other than the old StyleWriters that - I can use on my 637CD. I've used the 870 cse for years without major trouble. HP850c, deskjet but pretty useful, pc port and mac serial ports, both used at the same time. Is this the case with the 870 Paul? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
About Re: New printer for Mac 637CD, at 9:44am +1100 on 1/20/04, Sque stated: - Paul Stamsen wrote: - - About New printer for Mac 637CD, at 7:51am -0600 on 1/18/04, Jim Raper stated: - - - Hi, Listers, - - - - Can someone tell me about a printer other than the old StyleWriters that - - I can use on my 637CD. - - I've used the 870 cse for years without major trouble. - - HP850c, deskjet but pretty useful, pc port and mac serial ports, both used at - the same time. Is this the case with the 870 Paul? Looks like they are pretty similar. Both kinds of port, I have no idea if they can be used at the same time? He might as well google for them or search eBay. eh? Paul -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
Paul Stamsen wrote: - I've used the 870 cse for years without major trouble. - - HP850c, deskjet but pretty useful, pc port and mac serial ports, both used at - the same time. Is this the case with the 870 Paul? Looks like they are pretty similar. Both kinds of port, I have no idea if they can be used at the same time? He might as well google for them or search eBay. eh? Best bet i'd guess. The only trouble we had with the 850c was a very bad batch of refills from HP which we naturally blamed the printer for. Somewhere on the web I found a tip about the bad QC on some refills and sure enough a new batch got it going good as gold after sitting idle for a year or two. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
For original poster: If you decide to go network route i went through collection and found comm slot card. since it is my only one i'll have to ask 20.00 shipped in US, from 73020. Postal money order or i can set up paypal again. charles lenington Paul Stamsen wrote: About Re: New printer for Mac 637CD, at 9:44am +1100 on 1/20/04, Sque stated: - Paul Stamsen wrote: - - About New printer for Mac 637CD, at 7:51am -0600 on 1/18/04, Jim Raper stated: - - - Hi, Listers, - - - - Can someone tell me about a printer other than the old StyleWriters that - - I can use on my 637CD. - - I've used the 870 cse for years without major trouble. - - HP850c, deskjet but pretty useful, pc port and mac serial ports, both used at - the same time. Is this the case with the 870 Paul? Looks like they are pretty similar. Both kinds of port, I have no idea if they can be used at the same time? He might as well google for them or search eBay. eh? Paul -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
I would think that many printers without the serial port would work with an ethernet printserver. Many printers can be purchased with this feature or it can be bought seperately (many routers can have one built in) or you can use a modern computer as the print server. I am pretty sure the mac can print to most printers over ethernet but you may have trouble finding drivers if they are needed. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
Mactracker states that there is no ethernet for a 637cd. there may be a commslot card available which requires research and tracking one down. charles lenington Otto Hansen wrote: I would think that many printers without the serial port would work with an ethernet printserver. Many printers can be purchased with this feature or it can be bought seperately (many routers can have one built in) or you can use a modern computer as the print server. I am pretty sure the mac can print to most printers over ethernet but you may have trouble finding drivers if they are needed. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
researched: 1. card, ethernet, 10 base-t, comm slot apple part # 661-0888 (source: apple service price pages 01/99) 2. from mactracker: It (Quadra 630) was also released as LC 630 and Performas 630, 630cd, 631cd, 635cd, 636, 636cd, 637cd, 638cd, and 640cd each of which was bundled with different software, accessories, monitors, and hard drives so to answer my own statement yes there was a comm slot ethernet card there should be some standoffs to support card if you find a pull. charles lenington Otto Hansen wrote: I would think that many printers without the serial port would work with an ethernet printserver. Many printers can be purchased with this feature or it can be bought seperately (many routers can have one built in) or you can use a modern computer as the print server. I am pretty sure the mac can print to most printers over ethernet but you may have trouble finding drivers if they are needed. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:51:41 -0600 From: Jim Raper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New printer for Mac 637CD Hi, Listers, Can someone tell me about a printer other than the old StyleWriters that I can use on my 637CD. I've upgraded the RAM to 64MB and installed a 3 gig HD. It is running OS 8.1 flawlessly. BUT the old StyleWriter 2400 is shot. Is there a modern HP or Epson printer that can be used on this machine? I have recently been through a circus getting an inkjet printer for our house.The issues were to get the best printer I could while still being compatible with at least back to OS 7.6.1 and preferably networkable because I like to have all my printers networked. The house is well wired, so networked printing is convenient. The current crop of inkjet printers (and printers in general) do not have serial ports. They have USB ports and a good many of them still come with a parallel port. There are no USB cards or adapters for the 637CD nor for any other machine which lacks Cardbus and PCI slots. 1) So, you could get one of the adapter kits that lets you connect your Mac to a parallel port printer through the Mac's serial port. The thing is that the kit must come with a driver for your printer or for a language that your printer understands. I think one such kit was called the Orange Grappler? 2) Another option is to get a printer with a network port. Now days that means an ethernet print server or ethernet card. This can get expensive but it can also be very convenient. A printer which is $70 by itself seems to suddenly gain $150 in price the moment you add an ethernet adapter.I miss affordable LocalTalk printers, which USB killed. Darn USB. USB isn't a network media, so it's silly, but there you go. Of course, you need either an ethernet card in your 637 or a LocalTalk to Ethernet bridge such as the Asantetalk in order to connect your 637 to an ethernet capable printer. The last time I checked, Epson had one of their network ready printers on their clearance list for a decent price, but I think it was wifi rather than cabled ethernet. 3) Get an older printer.Here, your choices branch again into an older printer with a serial port or an older printer which is networkable. A) Older printer with a serial port. For example, the Epson Stylus Color 850 was pretty nice and it has a serial port. But, it's resolution is only 1440 X 720 which is not so good by today's standards. It's fine for text. It's not so great for printing photos, but okay. You could check Epson's documentation to find the highest resolution printer which came with the serial port and then buy that one on the used market. The 850 BTW, often goes on Ebay for under $20, but the shipping is about $20. B) An older printer with a network port. Many of the older printers have a LocalTalk port, which looks like a serial port but functions differently.One line of the Epson inkjet printers has a Type B slot which is a proprietary Epson slot, but the cards are fairly available on the used market. The Type B slot can take a LocalTalk card, any of several models of ethernet card (including 10/100) and a few other cards which aren't relevant when you have a 637 on the other end. For example the Epson Stylus Color 980 (there is also a very different Stylus Photo 980) has a type B slot and prints at 2880 X 1440, which is much nicer than the 850. It's also faster. One can install the Epson LocalTalk card or any of several ethernet cards in the B slot. The 980 only has USB and parallel, so you can't connect it to an older Mac without a network card of some type. The documentation for the 980 claims that it requires OS 8 or greater, but that's because it only has the USB port and the USB support requires OS8 or greater on the Mac. Once you install a network card, it works at least back to 7.6.1. 4) If you have a more modern Mac, you can buy a more recent printer, connect it to your recent Mac through USB or Firewire (depending on the printer) and then Share the printer on your network using the software for the printer which allows this. Again, this requires that your 637 be on a network with your other Mac. It also requires that the modern Mac be turned on whenever you wish to print to that printer. Jeff Walther P.S. In my case, I collected five Stylus Color 850s on Ebay intending to make one or two good working ones, and then found an SC 980 at Goodwill which works perfectly... -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL
Re: New printer for Mac 637CD
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:15:20 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New printer for Mac 637CD Mactracker states that there is no ethernet for a 637cd. there may be a commslot card available which requires research and tracking one down. Doesn't the 637 have an LC PDS slot? It's basically a Q630 with different accessories and maybe an LC 68040 instead of a full 68040. And LC PDS ethernet cards are slightly more expensive than dirt. Jeff Walther -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
