Re: Overclocking
At 11:18 +0100 on 09/03/03, Peter 64a wrote: I have put a full 68040 processor in my 33Mhz 630 and it comes from a 25Mhz mac. So I run it at 33Mhz now but i am considering clocking the machine to 40Mhz. I just wonder if it is so that I should avoid that. On the prcoessor it is stated XC68040RC25B. Does that say that it has been tested fpr 25Mhz only or? Some 25 MHz CPUs work OK at 40 MHz, but a lot don't. Even a few 33 MHz CPUs won't overclock to 40 MHz well. You can try it, and if it doesn't work, you know that you need to track down a faster CPU. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Overclocking
On the prcoessor it is stated XC68040RC25B. Does that say that it has been tested for 25Mhz only or? Some 25 MHz CPUs work OK at 40 MHz, but a lot don't. Even a few 33 MHz CPUs won't overclock to 40 MHz well. You can try it, and if it doesn't work, you know that you need to track down a faster CPU. -- the pickle Thanks. I can understand that. I wonder if the number XC68040RC25B states that it is supposed to run at 25Mhz or if the 25 in the number on the CPU is just a coinsidence? regards Peter _ Skaffa fler messengerkontakter - Vinn 10.000 i resecheckar! http://messenger.msn.se/promo -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Overclocking
At 08:55 PM 3/9/2003 +0100, you wrote: Thanks. I can understand that. I wonder if the number XC68040RC25B states that it is supposed to run at 25Mhz or if the 25 in the number on the CPU is just a coinsidence? regards Peter It does mean it's rated at 25mhz. The way I understand processor fabbing to go, a chip maker makes up a batch of chips, then runs them through various tests. The ones that work at lower speeds get rated lower, the ones that stay in spec at higher speeds get marked higher. This means that a chip marked for a lower speed might well run fine for general use at higher speeds, and is the basis for the entire overclocking bit. That said, if you're going to run a 25mhz part at 40, you definitely want at least a heat sync, and maybe even a fan. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Overclocking
It does mean it's rated at 25mhz. The way I understand processor fabbing to go, a chip maker makes up a batch of chips, then runs them through various tests. The ones that work at lower speeds get rated lower, the ones that stay in spec at higher speeds get marked higher. This means that a chip marked for a lower speed might well run fine for general use at higher speeds, and is the basis for the entire overclocking bit. That said, if you're going to run a 25mhz part at 40, you definitely want at least a heat sync, and maybe even a fan. Scott Holder Thanx alot! I have a heath sink from the donor machine a Quadra 700 i believe. But no extra fan. So what happens if it gets to warm? Does it hang the machine or what are the signs? It runs now at 33Mhz and there is no problems as far as I can see. Regards Peter _ Skaffa fler messengerkontakter - Vinn 10.000 i resecheckar! http://messenger.msn.se/promo -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Overclocking
At 21:14 +0100 on 09/03/03, Peter 64a wrote: I have a heath sink from the donor machine a Quadra 700 i believe. But no The heatsink from a Q700 will be quite sufficient; CPUs overclocked to speeds shipped by Apple (i.e., anything from 40 MHz on down) shouldn't need anything more than the heatsink unless airflow around the CPU is very tight. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Overclocking
At 19:56 -0700 on 09/03/03, Lou Hailey wrote: I ordered a 20MHz a 21.5MHz oscillator from Output Enablers on 2/04, online all went well, except for the confirmation. Why not get 'em from scrap boards, like a IIsi? :) -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Overclocking
In a message dated 3/9/03 6:57:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I havent been able to find another supplier, online or off, for Full Size Metal Can TTL, 20 MHz 21.5 MHz oscillators. Halted Specialties, within 10 or so minutes from the confluence of 880 and 101 or ACE (if they're still in business) at the confluence of 880 and 101. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Overclocking
OK, I have 3 '040 machines that I'm considering upgrading to full '040 instead of LC processors. First off I have an LC630 with a 33MHz chip in, and I've tracked down a full 33MHz processor to drop in as a straight replacement. I've also got a couple of Performa 475s, and unfortunately I have only seen other 33MHz chips (none purchased yet). Would I be right in assuming that if I drop in one of these, I'd have to go through the overclocking procedure for the motherboard. Seems to make logical sense to me, but just in case I thought I'd ask :-) I'm not to sure about over clocking the 475 really, but that's yet to be decided. No, the 33 MHz chips will work fine at the original 25 MHz of the '475. Overclocking the 475 isn't too difficult though. See http://homepage.mac.com/schrier/q605.html for a description. Cheers, Dirk -- Chaos reigns within. reflect, repent, and reboot. Order shall return. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Overclocking
At 22:26 + on 08/03/03, Paul Tansom wrote: I've also got a couple of Performa 475s, and unfortunately I have only seen other 33MHz chips (none purchased yet). Would I be right in assuming that if I drop in one of these, I'd have to go through the overclocking procedure for the motherboard. You don't *have* to - the chips will run fine at the slower speed - but to take full advantage of them, you'll probably want to. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Overclocking a Quadra 800
At 11:42 -0700 on 25/07/02, Paul Noss wrote: I've decided I want to try overclocking a Quadra. I bought a Quadra 800 for specifically for this purpose. I've read that the CPU has a clock input of 66 MHz (whatever that means), but the processor is not clock doubled so it only runs as 33 MHz. Does that mean I can try to overclock it to run at 66 MHz? No. That's a bit of marketing bullshxt that Apple's ad agency came up with. Nevertheless, where can I find instructions on how to overclock this model specifically? I've found some information on slower Quadras, but can't find anything on the Quadra 800. And pickle, I have already read your very informative page on this topic. It's there. Have a read through it again :) the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
