Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec Crank Position Sensor

2017-07-02 Thread Steve Kodź 

All the CPS sensors I've seen are plastic cased, so probably not.

Regards,
Steve
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On 2 July 2017 17:35:22 "Susan and Martin Scott" 
 wrote:



Thinking at a tangent. would it be possible to machine an adaptor that
can be mounted on the outside, yet still achieve the correct position for
the sensor?
Martin
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Hearne" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec Crank Position Sensor


Sorry Nigel, the automatic crank sensor mounting is different to the
manual.
The sensor is the same but the aluminium bracket it fits into that then
fits into the hole in block is quite different.
And, of course the bracket is fitted from inside the bellhousing.

http://locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/2tps%20housing.jpg
http://www.kilmartin.it/gallery/picturegallery/crank-trig-hous.jpg

Jim






On 01/07/2017 12:43, Nigel Plant wrote:

Have rebuilt an engine for my zetec xtreme, but cannot get it started. The
Omex ECU is not seeing the CPS signal. Have checked all wiring, sensor and
signals. Have put an oscilloscope at the ECU end of the wiring and
although getting a signal of sorts it is very noisy. I finally decided to
check the flywheel holes line up with the sensor hole and it seems there
is about 2 or 3mm offset.

Now the question. The new engine is from an automatic. Flywheel etc from
my old engine. Can anyone tell me conclusively if the automatic CPS is in
a different position to the manual one. A bit if googling indicates it is,
so looks like engine out again. Ouch.

Nigel



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Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec Crank Position Sensor

2017-07-02 Thread Susan and Martin Scott 
Thinking at a tangent. would it be possible to machine an adaptor that 
can be mounted on the outside, yet still achieve the correct position for 
the sensor?

Martin
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Hearne" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec Crank Position Sensor


Sorry Nigel, the automatic crank sensor mounting is different to the
manual.
The sensor is the same but the aluminium bracket it fits into that then
fits into the hole in block is quite different.
And, of course the bracket is fitted from inside the bellhousing.

http://locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/2tps%20housing.jpg
http://www.kilmartin.it/gallery/picturegallery/crank-trig-hous.jpg

Jim






On 01/07/2017 12:43, Nigel Plant wrote:
Have rebuilt an engine for my zetec xtreme, but cannot get it started. The 
Omex ECU is not seeing the CPS signal. Have checked all wiring, sensor and 
signals. Have put an oscilloscope at the ECU end of the wiring and 
although getting a signal of sorts it is very noisy. I finally decided to 
check the flywheel holes line up with the sensor hole and it seems there 
is about 2 or 3mm offset.


Now the question. The new engine is from an automatic. Flywheel etc from 
my old engine. Can anyone tell me conclusively if the automatic CPS is in 
a different position to the manual one. A bit if googling indicates it is, 
so looks like engine out again. Ouch.


Nigel



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Re: [Quantum Owners] Zetec Crank Position Sensor

2017-07-02 Thread Jim Hearne 
Sorry Nigel, the automatic crank sensor mounting is different to the 
manual.
The sensor is the same but the aluminium bracket it fits into that then 
fits into the hole in block is quite different.

And, of course the bracket is fitted from inside the bellhousing.

http://locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/2tps%20housing.jpg
http://www.kilmartin.it/gallery/picturegallery/crank-trig-hous.jpg

Jim






On 01/07/2017 12:43, Nigel Plant wrote:

Have rebuilt an engine for my zetec xtreme, but cannot get it started. The Omex 
ECU is not seeing the CPS signal. Have checked all wiring, sensor and signals. 
Have put an oscilloscope at the ECU end of the wiring and although getting a 
signal of sorts it is very noisy. I finally decided to check the flywheel holes 
line up with the sensor hole and it seems there is about 2 or 3mm offset.

Now the question. The new engine is from an automatic. Flywheel etc from my old 
engine. Can anyone tell me conclusively if the automatic CPS is in a different 
position to the manual one. A bit if googling indicates it is, so looks like 
engine out again. Ouch.

Nigel



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