Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

[Mark]

Great stuff Chris. I had just got the info on the mod from my dad 
yesterday, but looks like Geoff beat me to it.
Will be interested to know if you manage to work out how to raise the bite 
point a little higher than from just off the floor.
Mark

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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

[Susan and Martin Scott]

Hi Chris,
Good to hear you are sorting the clutch.
I can't find your direct email, and have some questions about windows - could 
you possibly send your email direct to me 
m...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk
Regards, Martin
  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:21 PM
  Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows


  Sorry this has been so long. I can confirm that Ford KA electric window 
winders can be used on the 2+2 in place of the Fiesta MK3 ones.

   

  While this is good news, they are a straight swap as the cables are shorter 
than the Fiesta ones. I’m guessing the KA ones are the same length as the ones 
off the front a 5 door Fiesta. I managed to fit them using the Quantum 
modification that Jim has detailed on the club site, but I had to put the 
spacer at the bottom of the track rather than the top. The other good news is 
the KA track is identical so the Fiesta one so you can swap the KA cable and 
motor over to the Fiesta track which makes refitting easier. The other good 
news is the KA electrical connector is identical to the Fiesta one. The only 
bad news you need to drill new mounting holes and make sure the motor doesn’t 
foul with the threaded rod for the front window runner.

   

  I hope this makes sense. If not, email me direct and I will give more details

   

  Chris

   

  From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
  Sent: 16 June 2018 09:04
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

   

  Chris's suggestion on ka mk1 may be good, as the ka windows are very deep.

  Martin

- Original Message - 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:45 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

The Saloon uses MK3 Fiesta 3 door regulators as they’re bigger than the 5 
door version.

I assume the 2+2 uses the same as the doors are a similar size and shape.

 

Chris G

 

 

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:49 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 

Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

I need to replace the electric window regulators on my 2+2. The O/S cable 
has broken and the N/S isn’t far behind. I received an aftermarket replacement 
today which cannot be shortened in the same way as the ford one and the motor 
appear to have shorter cables so it fowls with the lower mounting for the 
quarter light channel. This item is for a 4 door Fiesta Mk3 and Courier van. 

 

I know Quantum supplied Fiesta MK3 items, but does anyone know if they were 
for 3 or 5 door models?

 

Also has anyone successfully fitted window regulators from another model as 
Mk3 Fiesta ones are hard to find now? Perhaps Mk4 Fiesta or Mk1 KA?

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 21:26
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Thanks Jim

 

From: 'Jim Turner' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 10:30
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Find attached the copy of the review of the first 2+2. The cover shows the 
car tested, but it also had a doctored picture of a planned flapped headlight 
model.

Jimt

On Friday, 25 May 2018 16:30:07 UTC+1, Stephen Fairhurst wrote:

  I would like to sell my 2+2 which I have owned for 14 years .

   

  The Chassis No is Q2-001 which I assume was the first car of the second 
generation built by Quantum.

   

  I would like to offer it to the owners club members before I put it on 
general sale I only want £800 Iam more concerned she goes to a good home.

   

  Here are some details

   

  Original quantum spec Ford XR2 1600 engine/gearbox running gear etc 

  Colour - red

  Current mileage - 58600

  MOT to 29th Nov 2018

  4 recent new tyres

  The hood is faded and has a few blemishes on it otherwise OK

  A few small cracks have appeared in the rear bumper area but nothing major

   

  I also knew the previous owner who owned her for 4 years 

   

  I live in Sandbach Cheshire about 2 miles from junction 17 of M6

   

  I have enclosed a few pictures

   

  For anymore infomation please contact me.

   

  Kind Regards

   

  Steve

   

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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

[Derek Clews]

Thanks Chris,

Yes definitely aftermarket.  But I have not seem an offered for a long time so 
though I would jump while it was there.  

I will give it a go as the Q drivers door window really struggles, often stalls 
altogether, and I think it is just too worn and old.  Passenger side is fine as 
are both of my Q2+2 ’s.  The Q doors and frames (often a bit strangely aligned 
when shut?) seem to give the mechanisms a hard time, so I prefer to go new, if 
I can.  All part of the fun!

ATB

Derek


> On 10 Sep 2018, at 13:31, 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
>  wrote:
> 
> Derek
>  
> This looks like an aftermarket pattern part. While it would probably fit a 
> Fiesta fine, unfortunately you may struggle to fit it because not all of them 
> can be modified to fit in the shallower door of our Qs. I know because I 
> started with a similar item. The plus with the Ka ones is they can be 
> modified in exactly same way as the Fiesta ones. Also good used working items 
> can be bought for under £20.
>  
> Chris
>  
> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of Derek Clews
> Sent: 10 September 2018 09:59
> To: Quantum Owners Forum 
> Cc: Derek Clews 
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows
>  
> HI All,
>  
> Just found that you can buy the original 2 door Mk2 version. 
>  
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232462190335?ul_noapp=true 
> 
>  
> £68.57
>  
> I have ordered one for the Coupe to try it.
>  
> ATB
>  
> Derek
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2018, at 08:14, 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
>> mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Martin
>>  
>> Yes Mk1 bubble shape, I believe up to about 2008. If I remember correctly 
>> the Mk1 was based on a Fiesta.
>>  
>> Regards
>>  
>> Chris
>>  
>> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
>> Sent: 09 September 2018 22:12
>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows
>>  
>> Is that 'original' mk1 Ka ie the bubble shaped one, not the mk2 based on the 
>> Fiat 500 platform?
>> Martin
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
>>> 
>>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:21 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows
>>>  
>>> Sorry this has been so long. I can confirm that Ford KA electric window 
>>> winders can be used on the 2+2 in place of the Fiesta MK3 ones.
>>>  
>>> While this is good news, they are a straight swap as the cables are shorter 
>>> than the Fiesta ones. I’m guessing the KA ones are the same length as the 
>>> ones off the front a 5 door Fiesta. I managed to fit them using the Quantum 
>>> modification that Jim has detailed on the club site, but I had to put the 
>>> spacer at the bottom of the track rather than the top. The other good news 
>>> is the KA track is identical so the Fiesta one so you can swap the KA cable 
>>> and motor over to the Fiesta track which makes refitting easier. The other 
>>> good news is the KA electrical connector is identical to the Fiesta one. 
>>> The only bad news you need to drill new mounting holes and make sure the 
>>> motor doesn’t foul with the threaded rod for the front window runner.
>>>  
>>> I hope this makes sense. If not, email me direct and I will give more 
>>> details
>>>  
>>> Chris
>>>  
>>> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
>>> Sent: 16 June 2018 09:04
>>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows
>>>  
>>> Chris's suggestion on ka mk1 may be good, as the ka windows are very deep.
>>> Martin
 - Original Message - 
 From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
 
 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows
  
 The Saloon uses MK3 Fiesta 3 door regulators as they’re bigger than the 5 
 door version.
 I assume the 2+2 uses the same as the doors are a similar size and shape.
  
 Chris G
  
  
  
 From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
 
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:49 PM
 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric 

RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Geoff struggled with his scanner, so he sent me a photograph. 

 

Hopefully the attachment will upload with the message.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Sir Lancelot
Sent: 10 September 2018 10:44
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris

 

Good to hear you've made some progress but can you enlighten the rest of us on 
the pedal box modification that Geoff has or can Geoff post the details?

On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 9:03:02 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

I’m glad to report some progress. Refitted the original low lift clutch and 
guess what. I have a bite point above the floor, albeit low. Happy Days.

 

So I will try to find an exact replacement clutch kit. Also Geoff Ward provided 
a copy of the pedal box modification from the late build manual which is 
supposed to help too.

 

Thanks for all you help and advice, especially Andy Heaton who helped me to 
take the engine out again this afternoon.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantu...@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 07 September 2018 09:45
To: Quantum Owners Group  >
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I should be able to look it up tonight.

 

Jim



On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 10:10:14 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

Thanks Jim

 

Any idea what part number the short arm is? 

 

I have found on with part number 88AU7515AA, are you able to identify this?

 

Chris

 

 

 

From: quantu...@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 06 September 2018 22:05
To: Quantum Owners Group  >
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I thought i had mentioned this in a earlier reply but maybe i didn't.

 

There were 2 lengths of clutch release lever used that match up with the 2 
cable holes in the gearbox that you've seen.

As you say, the shorter level will give you more movement on the release 
bearing for the same cable movement but at the expense of a heavier pedal.

I'm not really sure why there were 2 lengths but i've always used the short 
lever.

I guess it's possible that the long lever was for the low lift bearing which 
needed less movement.

 

As has been mentioned, the lever can shear off where it is welded to the shaft, 
also the bolt can shear off where the release bearing bracket is attached 
inside the gearbox/

 

The later gearboxes had a different lever arrangment which attached to a 
separate shaft via splines and a pinch bolt.

 

Jim

 

Jim



On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 8:29:22 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

Martin

 

I hear what you are saying about the Quadrant, I want to ensure no easy fixes 
are left untried.

 

Unfortunately it is too late to make more checks as the engine/gearbox are out 
again. However I can confirm he clutch pedal was going to the floor. Actually I 
was hitting the Fiberglass bulkhead as I removed all the carpet and sound 
deadening from behind the pedal just to eliminate that concern.

 

My other thought is the gearbox has two holes for the clutch cable to pass 
through. I am starting to wonder if I can use the other hole which means tha 
cable will pull on the release arm nearer to the shaft so I get more degrees of 
turn for a given movement of the clutch pedal. I know this will lead to a 
heavier clutch pedal, I need to find something that will work. This would need 
a different, shorter, arm of some sort of mod to the existing one.

 

While the gear linkage UJ is a little stiff. I had no problem selecting gears 
before taking the engine out and I can select gears easily when the engine 
isn’t running. So definitely the clutch is dragging even when the clutch pedal 
is fully depressed.

 

Chris

 

From: quantu...@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf Of Susan and 
Martin Scott
Sent: 06 September 2018 13:37
To: quantu...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hmm - Your thought that the thrust bearing may have been pressing (when it 
shouldn't) sounds correct. The movement of the cable will only be 10% more with 
the 55mm quadrant - Is it possible to check how much cable is pulled when the 
clutch is fully depressed, in order to get an idea whether the arm will nearly 
reach the limit (ie hit casing)?  Does the pedal hit the floor, or could the 
arm move more if the pedal was able to move more (ie bigger quadrant will help 
by 10%) if that makes sense.  Just trying to get an idea of the full 
picture... All knowledge gained before tackling the job is probably 
worthwhile. I went round in circles with replacing quadrant/cable until I 
realised the issue must be the clutch (also had the gearchange linkage in bits, 
and although that wasn't the root of the problem it was too 

RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Derek

 

This looks like an aftermarket pattern part. While it would probably fit a 
Fiesta fine, unfortunately you may struggle to fit it because not all of them 
can be modified to fit in the shallower door of our Qs. I know because I 
started with a similar item. The plus with the Ka ones is they can be modified 
in exactly same way as the Fiesta ones. Also good used working items can be 
bought for under £20.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Derek Clews
Sent: 10 September 2018 09:59
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

HI All,

 

Just found that you can buy the original 2 door Mk2 version. 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232462190335?ul_noapp=true

 

£68.57

 

I have ordered one for the Coupe to try it.

 

ATB

 

Derek

 

 

 





On 10 Sep 2018, at 08:14, 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Martin

 

Yes Mk1 bubble shape, I believe up to about 2008. If I remember correctly the 
Mk1 was based on a Fiesta.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 09 September 2018 22:12
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Is that 'original' mk1 Ka ie the bubble shaped one, not the mk2 based on the 
Fiat 500 platform?

Martin

- Original Message - 

From:   'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum 
Owners Group

To:   quantumowners@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:21 PM

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Sorry this has been so long. I can confirm that Ford KA electric window winders 
can be used on the 2+2 in place of the Fiesta MK3 ones.

 

While this is good news, they are a straight swap as the cables are shorter 
than the Fiesta ones. I’m guessing the KA ones are the same length as the ones 
off the front a 5 door Fiesta. I managed to fit them using the Quantum 
modification that Jim has detailed on the club site, but I had to put the 
spacer at the bottom of the track rather than the top. The other good news is 
the KA track is identical so the Fiesta one so you can swap the KA cable and 
motor over to the Fiesta track which makes refitting easier. The other good 
news is the KA electrical connector is identical to the Fiesta one. The only 
bad news you need to drill new mounting holes and make sure the motor doesn’t 
foul with the threaded rod for the front window runner.

 

I hope this makes sense. If not, email me direct and I will give more details

 

Chris

 

From:   quantumowners@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 16 June 2018 09:04
To:   quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Chris's suggestion on ka mk1 may be good, as the ka windows are very deep.

Martin

- Original Message - 

From:   chris.quant via Quantum Owners 
Group

To:   quantumowners@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:45 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

The Saloon uses MK3 Fiesta 3 door regulators as they’re bigger than the 5 door 
version.

I assume the 2+2 uses the same as the doors are a similar size and shape.

 

Chris G

 

 

 

From:   'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum 
Owners Group

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:49 PM

To:   quantumowners@googlegroups.com

Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

I need to replace the electric window regulators on my 2+2. The O/S cable has 
broken and the N/S isn’t far behind. I received an aftermarket replacement 
today which cannot be shortened in the same way as the ford one and the motor 
appear to have shorter cables so it fowls with the lower mounting for the 
quarter light channel. This item is for a 4 door Fiesta Mk3 and Courier van. 

 

I know Quantum supplied Fiesta MK3 items, but does anyone know if they were for 
3 or 5 door models?

 

Also has anyone successfully fitted window regulators from another model as Mk3 
Fiesta ones are hard to find now? Perhaps Mk4 Fiesta or Mk1 KA?

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group [ 
 mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 21:26
To:   quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

[Sir Lancelot]

Hi Chris

Good to hear you've made some progress but can you enlighten the rest of us 
on the pedal box modification that Geoff has or can Geoff post the details?

On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 9:03:02 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:
>
> I’m glad to report some progress. Refitted the original low lift clutch 
> and guess what. I have a bite point above the floor, albeit low. Happy Days.
>
>  
>
> So I will try to find an exact replacement clutch kit. Also Geoff Ward 
> provided a copy of the pedal box modification from the late build manual 
> which is supposed to help too.
>
>  
>
> Thanks for all you help and advice, especially Andy Heaton who helped me 
> to take the engine out again this afternoon.
>
>  
>
> Regards
>
>  
>
> Chris
>
>  
>
> *From:* quantu...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> quantu...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Jim Hearne
> *Sent:* 07 September 2018 09:45
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group >
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem
>
>  
>
> I should be able to look it up tonight.
>
>  
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 10:10:14 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:
>
> Thanks Jim
>
>  
>
> Any idea what part number the short arm is? 
>
>  
>
> I have found on with part number 88AU7515AA, are you able to identify this?
>
>  
>
> Chris
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* quantu...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> quantu...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Jim Hearne
> *Sent:* 06 September 2018 22:05
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group >
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem
>
>  
>
> I thought i had mentioned this in a earlier reply but maybe i didn't.
>
>  
>
> There were 2 lengths of clutch release lever used that match up with the 2 
> cable holes in the gearbox that you've seen.
>
> As you say, the shorter level will give you more movement on the release 
> bearing for the same cable movement but at the expense of a heavier pedal.
>
> I'm not really sure why there were 2 lengths but i've always used the 
> short lever.
>
> I guess it's possible that the long lever was for the low lift bearing 
> which needed less movement.
>
>  
>
> As has been mentioned, the lever can shear off where it is welded to the 
> shaft, also the bolt can shear off where the release bearing bracket is 
> attached inside the gearbox/
>
>  
>
> The later gearboxes had a different lever arrangment which attached to a 
> separate shaft via splines and a pinch bolt.
>
>  
>
> Jim
>
>  
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 8:29:22 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:
>
> Martin
>
>  
>
> I hear what you are saying about the Quadrant, I want to ensure no easy 
> fixes are left untried.
>
>  
>
> Unfortunately it is too late to make more checks as the engine/gearbox are 
> out again. However I can confirm he clutch pedal was going to the floor. 
> Actually I was hitting the Fiberglass bulkhead as I removed all the carpet 
> and sound deadening from behind the pedal just to eliminate that concern.
>
>  
>
> My other thought is the gearbox has two holes for the clutch cable to pass 
> through. I am starting to wonder if I can use the other hole which means 
> tha cable will pull on the release arm nearer to the shaft so I get more 
> degrees of turn for a given movement of the clutch pedal. I know this will 
> lead to a heavier clutch pedal, I need to find something that will work. 
> This would need a different, shorter, arm of some sort of mod to the 
> existing one.
>
>  
>
> While the gear linkage UJ is a little stiff. I had no problem selecting 
> gears before taking the engine out and I can select gears easily when the 
> engine isn’t running. So definitely the clutch is dragging even when the 
> clutch pedal is fully depressed.
>
>  
>
> Chris
>
>  
>
> *From:* quantu...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> quantu...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Susan and Martin 
> Scott
> *Sent:* 06 September 2018 13:37
> *To:* quantu...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem
>
>  
>
> Hmm - Your thought that the thrust bearing may have been pressing (when it 
> shouldn't) sounds correct. The movement of the cable will only be 10% more 
> with the 55mm quadrant - Is it possible to check how much cable is pulled 
> when the clutch is fully depressed, in order to get an idea whether the arm 
> will nearly reach the limit (ie hit casing)?  Does the pedal hit the floor, 
> or could the arm move more if the pedal was able to move more (ie bigger 
> quadrant will help by 10%) if that makes sense.  Just trying to get an idea 
> of the full picture... All knowledge gained before tackling the job is 
> probably worthwhile. I went round in circles with replacing quadrant/cable 
> until I realised the issue must be the clutch (also had the gearchange 
> linkage in bits, and although that wasn't the root of the problem it was 
> too tight)
>
> Martin
>
> - Original Message - 
>
> *From:* 'Chris Fairlie' 

Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

[Derek Clews]

HI All,

Just found that you can buy the original 2 door Mk2 version. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232462190335?ul_noapp=true 


£68.57

I have ordered one for the Coupe to try it.

ATB

Derek




> On 10 Sep 2018, at 08:14, 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
>  wrote:
> 
> Martin
>  
> Yes Mk1 bubble shape, I believe up to about 2008. If I remember correctly the 
> Mk1 was based on a Fiesta.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Chris
>  
> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
> Sent: 09 September 2018 22:12
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows
>  
> Is that 'original' mk1 Ka ie the bubble shaped one, not the mk2 based on the 
> Fiat 500 platform?
> Martin
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
>> 
>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:21 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows
>>  
>> Sorry this has been so long. I can confirm that Ford KA electric window 
>> winders can be used on the 2+2 in place of the Fiesta MK3 ones.
>>  
>> While this is good news, they are a straight swap as the cables are shorter 
>> than the Fiesta ones. I’m guessing the KA ones are the same length as the 
>> ones off the front a 5 door Fiesta. I managed to fit them using the Quantum 
>> modification that Jim has detailed on the club site, but I had to put the 
>> spacer at the bottom of the track rather than the top. The other good news 
>> is the KA track is identical so the Fiesta one so you can swap the KA cable 
>> and motor over to the Fiesta track which makes refitting easier. The other 
>> good news is the KA electrical connector is identical to the Fiesta one. The 
>> only bad news you need to drill new mounting holes and make sure the motor 
>> doesn’t foul with the threaded rod for the front window runner.
>>  
>> I hope this makes sense. If not, email me direct and I will give more details
>>  
>> Chris
>>  
>> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
>> Sent: 16 June 2018 09:04
>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows
>>  
>> Chris's suggestion on ka mk1 may be good, as the ka windows are very deep.
>> Martin
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
>>> 
>>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows
>>>  
>>> The Saloon uses MK3 Fiesta 3 door regulators as they’re bigger than the 5 
>>> door version.
>>> I assume the 2+2 uses the same as the doors are a similar size and shape.
>>>  
>>> Chris G
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:49 PM
>>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows
>>>  
>>> I need to replace the electric window regulators on my 2+2. The O/S cable 
>>> has broken and the N/S isn’t far behind. I received an aftermarket 
>>> replacement today which cannot be shortened in the same way as the ford one 
>>> and the motor appear to have shorter cables so it fowls with the lower 
>>> mounting for the quarter light channel. This item is for a 4 door Fiesta 
>>> Mk3 and Courier van. 
>>>  
>>> I know Quantum supplied Fiesta MK3 items, but does anyone know if they were 
>>> for 3 or 5 door models?
>>>  
>>> Also has anyone successfully fitted window regulators from another model as 
>>> Mk3 Fiesta ones are hard to find now? Perhaps Mk4 Fiesta or Mk1 KA?
>>>  
>>> Regards
>>>  
>>> Chris Fairlie
>>>  
>>> From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
>>> [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] 
>>> Sent: 14 June 2018 21:26
>>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001
>>>  
>>> Thanks Jim
>>>  
>>> From: 'Jim Turner' via Quantum Owners Group 
>>> [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] 
>>> Sent: 14 June 2018 10:30
>>> To: Quantum Owners Group >> >
>>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001
>>>  
>>> Find attached the copy of the review of the first 2+2. The cover shows the 
>>> car tested, but it also had a doctored picture of a planned flapped 
>>> headlight model.

RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

['Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group]

Martin

 

Yes Mk1 bubble shape, I believe up to about 2008. If I remember correctly the 
Mk1 was based on a Fiesta.

 

Regards

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 09 September 2018 22:12
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Is that 'original' mk1 Ka ie the bubble shaped one, not the mk2 based on the 
Fiat 500 platform?

Martin

- Original Message - 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
  

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:21 PM

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Sorry this has been so long. I can confirm that Ford KA electric window winders 
can be used on the 2+2 in place of the Fiesta MK3 ones.

 

While this is good news, they are a straight swap as the cables are shorter 
than the Fiesta ones. I’m guessing the KA ones are the same length as the ones 
off the front a 5 door Fiesta. I managed to fit them using the Quantum 
modification that Jim has detailed on the club site, but I had to put the 
spacer at the bottom of the track rather than the top. The other good news is 
the KA track is identical so the Fiesta one so you can swap the KA cable and 
motor over to the Fiesta track which makes refitting easier. The other good 
news is the KA electrical connector is identical to the Fiesta one. The only 
bad news you need to drill new mounting holes and make sure the motor doesn’t 
foul with the threaded rod for the front window runner.

 

I hope this makes sense. If not, email me direct and I will give more details

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 16 June 2018 09:04
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

Chris's suggestion on ka mk1 may be good, as the ka windows are very deep.

Martin

- Original Message - 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
  

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:45 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

The Saloon uses MK3 Fiesta 3 door regulators as they’re bigger than the 5 door 
version.

I assume the 2+2 uses the same as the doors are a similar size and shape.

 

Chris G

 

 

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
  

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:49 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   

Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 electric windows

 

I need to replace the electric window regulators on my 2+2. The O/S cable has 
broken and the N/S isn’t far behind. I received an aftermarket replacement 
today which cannot be shortened in the same way as the ford one and the motor 
appear to have shorter cables so it fowls with the lower mounting for the 
quarter light channel. This item is for a 4 door Fiesta Mk3 and Courier van. 

 

I know Quantum supplied Fiesta MK3 items, but does anyone know if they were for 
3 or 5 door models?

 

Also has anyone successfully fitted window regulators from another model as Mk3 
Fiesta ones are hard to find now? Perhaps Mk4 Fiesta or Mk1 KA?

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 21:26
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Thanks Jim

 

From: 'Jim Turner' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 14 June 2018 10:30
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: For Sale 2+2 Chassis No Q2-001

 

Find attached the copy of the review of the first 2+2. The cover shows the car 
tested, but it also had a doctored picture of a planned flapped headlight model.

Jimt

On Friday, 25 May 2018 16:30:07 UTC+1, Stephen Fairhurst wrote:

I would like to sell my 2+2 which I have owned for 14 years .

 

The Chassis No is Q2-001 which I assume was the first car of the second 
generation built by Quantum.

 

I would like to offer it to the owners club members before I put it on general 
sale I only want £800 Iam more concerned she goes to a good home.

 

Here are some details

 

Original quantum spec Ford XR2 1600 engine/gearbox running gear etc 

Colour - red

Current mileage - 58600

MOT to 29th Nov 2018

4 recent new tyres

The hood is faded and has a few blemishes on it otherwise OK

A few small cracks have appeared in the rear bumper area but nothing major

 

I also knew the previous owner who owned