Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

2019-04-01 Thread Susan and Martin Scott 
It's not a good idea to overbrake on the rear! That's why there is an 
apportioning valve on the donor XR2, so changing to discs will achieve no 
benefit and probably compromise the parking brake.
Martin
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  I thought about the rear disc conversion but even on a twisty sprint track 
with heavy braking zones the rear drums never got any real heat in them. 
Perhaps with adjustable bias and maybe a bit more rear braking they might get 
hotter but I never felt that discs were a requirement.


  Bob

  Sent from my iPad

  On 1 Apr 2019, at 19:51, Darren Siepka  wrote:


Are the rears solid or vented? I found my 280odd cosworth vented rears keep 
glazing up and never get hot on the road no matter how I drove ! The 280 cougar 
fronts work fab though. 
300mm would need 16" + iirc ?


On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, 19:48 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, 
 wrote:

  That's a very large disc size for a Quantum. What size wheels are you 
using?


  Bob

  Sent from my iPad

  On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:26, Tom Walker  wrote:


I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc, 
with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist unit 
(Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and rear disc 
conversion.
However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since 
fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour 
yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)...





On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, 
 wrote:

  After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single 
piston calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I 
can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I purged all 
the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled everything. I'm 
thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at options. I 
know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse poo these days and if 
going to the extent of changing, I'd rather have a more performance focused set 
up. 
  Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with 
the standard servo and master cylinder.

  
https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html

  Bob

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

2019-04-01 Thread 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group 
I thought about the rear disc conversion but even on a twisty sprint track with 
heavy braking zones the rear drums never got any real heat in them. Perhaps 
with adjustable bias and maybe a bit more rear braking they might get hotter 
but I never felt that discs were a requirement.

Bob

Sent from my iPad

> On 1 Apr 2019, at 19:51, Darren Siepka  wrote:
> 
> Are the rears solid or vented? I found my 280odd cosworth vented rears keep 
> glazing up and never get hot on the road no matter how I drove ! The 280 
> cougar fronts work fab though. 
> 300mm would need 16" + iirc ?
> 
>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, 19:48 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, 
>>  wrote:
>> That's a very large disc size for a Quantum. What size wheels are you using?
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:26, Tom Walker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc, 
>>> with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist 
>>> unit (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and 
>>> rear disc conversion.
>>> However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since 
>>> fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour 
>>> yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)...
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, 
  wrote:
 After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single piston 
 calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I 
 can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I purged 
 all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled 
 everything. I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just 
 looking at options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking 
 horse poo these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather 
 have a more performance focused set up. 
 Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the 
 standard servo and master cylinder.
 
 https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
 
 Bob
 
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

2019-04-01 Thread Darren Siepka 
Are the rears solid or vented? I found my 280odd cosworth vented rears keep
glazing up and never get hot on the road no matter how I drove ! The 280
cougar fronts work fab though.
300mm would need 16" + iirc ?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, 19:48 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> That's a very large disc size for a Quantum. What size wheels are you
> using?
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:26, Tom Walker  wrote:
>
> I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc,
> with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist
> unit (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and
> rear disc conversion.
> However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since
> fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour
> yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)...
>
>
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single
>> piston calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot
>> system, I can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force.
>> I purged all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled
>> everything. I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just
>> looking at options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking
>> horse poo these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather
>> have a more performance focused set up.
>> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
>> standard servo and master cylinder.
>>
>>
>> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>>
>> Bob
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

2019-04-01 Thread 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group 
That's a very large disc size for a Quantum. What size wheels are you using?

Bob

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> On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:26, Tom Walker  wrote:
> 
> I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc, with 
> an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist unit 
> (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and rear 
> disc conversion.
> However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since fitting 
> the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour yet. 
> Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)...
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, 
>>  wrote:
>> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single piston 
>> calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I 
>> can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I purged 
>> all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled everything. 
>> I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at 
>> options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse poo 
>> these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather have a more 
>> performance focused set up. 
>> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the 
>> standard servo and master cylinder.
>> 
>> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>> 
>> Bob
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

2019-04-01 Thread philfi2clean cleaning 
I took mine off for shot blasting and powder coating and the glue was
rotten and only effectively holding it on at the top.with a little jump
on the frame after all the bolts were out resulted on it coming away with
no damage


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On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 22:02, Derek Clews  wrote:

> Hi Darren
>
> For a few pounds you can buy a wire saw on evil-bay.  A set of handles
> with an abrasive wire between.  The kind of things that get sold for
> outdoors use to cut down a tree!  Though you never would.  I was thinking
> of making up my own with wire wound guitar strings - I was just being
> cheapskate as I have the strings anyway.
>
> You could always take up playing guitar….?!
>
> ATB
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 31 Mar 2019, at 19:19, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>
> Yeouch! That's something I want to avoid.
> I lost a bit when I took my other 2+2 subframe off but it too much.
>
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2019, 18:56 'Mark Jones' via Quantum Owners Group, <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> If i remember correctly, one  of the members recommended scoring the glue
>> and pouring white spirit onto it and leaving it a good while, then repeat
>> until it comes away from the tub. I don’t know if it works as I had already
>> pulled mine off along with copious amounts of gelcoat...
>> Thankfully Eddie was on hand to sort out my mess!!!
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:47, Derek Clews  wrote:
>> >
>> > H Daren
>> >
>> > I have been thinking of doing mine for a few years now, but events have
>> conspired against me.  So the current plan is to SORN the 2+2 over this
>> winter.  I have been saving up some old guitar strings to use as a wire to
>> pull through and cut the glue where necessary.  I am wondering if the
>> powder coat will easily pull away from the metal of the frame anyway. Then
>> I was expecting to be able to cut the adhesive back using a blade and then
>> some sandpaper to finish.   It would be interesting to see how you get on.
>> >
>> > If the frame is bad, are quantum doing replacements?  Or is it just
>> weld repair time?  I plan to stick with the CVH for the foreseeable future,
>> but did wonder if I should alter the frame for Zetec anyway as a future
>> possibility for someone else, if not me.  What are you doing on that?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Derek
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:32, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just checking if my memory is correct.
>> >>
>> >> To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to
>> save the gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air
>> gun?
>> >>
>> >> Darren
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

2019-04-01 Thread Tom Walker 
I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc,
with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist
unit (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and
rear disc conversion.
However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since
fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour
yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)...


On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single piston
> calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I
> can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I purged
> all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled everything.
> I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at
> options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse poo
> these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather have a more
> performance focused set up.
> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
> standard servo and master cylinder.
>
>
> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>
> Bob
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