Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
Martin et al On my saloon I have Honda Legend discs on the front with Wilwood Midilite calipers. The rear has Golf Gti alloy calipers on Peugot 205 discs with no apportioning valve. Can be seen here. Brake balance is near perfect and the handbrake is sufficiently powerful to lock the wheels on dry tarmac. | | | | Quantum saloon - full rebuild | welcome to the ... Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:26 am The quantum's off the road for a full rebuild to "as new" condition - mechanical, elect... | | | Many people are not aware that drum brakes have a built-in servo-assistance characteristic so are more powerful, all other things being equal, than disc brakes. in my case correct balance was easily achieved with careful choice of pad material and the pressure reduction to the rear deleted. Handbrake effectiveness is a matter of ensuring that the combination of gearing inside the caliper and lever arm lengths (handbrake and caliper) applies correct force on the pads for the given disc and wheel diameters. Best regards Bill Bill Allison Borders Group of Advanced Motorists Secretary (Cars) Chief Observer (Cars) 07702 739474 01750 22550 (before 21:00 please) www.bordersiam.org.uk and www.bordersiam.org.uk/ydi www.iamroadsmart.com The contents of this message, and any attachments, may include information that is private and confidential and should not be read by persons other than the intended addressee(s). IAM RoadSmart nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to check the email and any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please inform the sender and delete the message from your computer. IAM RoadSmart is a trading name. IAM RoadSmart is a trademark. Charity number: 249002 (England and Wales) SC041201 (Scotland). Registered Address: 1 Albany Place, Hyde Way, Welwyn Garden City AL7 3BT. On Monday, 1 April 2019, 21:49:15 BST, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: It's not a good idea to overbrake on the rear! That's why there is an apportioning valve on the donor XR2, so changing to discs will achieve no benefit and probably compromise the parking brake.Martin - Original Message - From: 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions I thought about the rear disc conversion but even on a twisty sprint track with heavy braking zones the rear drums never got any real heat in them. Perhaps with adjustable bias and maybe a bit more rear braking they might get hotter but I never felt that discs were a requirement. Bob Sent from my iPad On 1 Apr 2019, at 19:51, Darren Siepka wrote: Are the rears solid or vented? I found my 280odd cosworth vented rears keep glazing up and never get hot on the road no matter how I drove ! The 280 cougar fronts work fab though. 300mm would need 16" + iirc ? On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, 19:48 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, wrote: That's a very large disc size for a Quantum. What size wheels are you using? Bob Sent from my iPad On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:26, Tom Walker wrote: I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc, with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist unit (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and rear disc conversion. However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)... On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, wrote: After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single piston calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I purged all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled everything. I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse poo these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather have a more performance focused set up. Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the standard servo and master cylinder. https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html Bob -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantu
Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
I wasn't suggesting it couldn't be done (ie. adequate handbrake and correct brake balance with rear discs), just that it wasn't necessary, and that drums are more than adequate for the job, certainly in a Quantum. For most Quantum builders it would be unecessarily costly, for no gain and a possibility of rendering the car dangerous if the brake balance ended up incorrect. Martin - Original Message - From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions Martin et al On my saloon I have Honda Legend discs on the front with Wilwood Midilite calipers. The rear has Golf Gti alloy calipers on Peugot 205 discs with no apportioning valve. Can be seen here. Brake balance is near perfect and the handbrake is sufficiently powerful to lock the wheels on dry tarmac. Quantum saloon - full rebuild | welcome to the ... Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:26 am The quantum's off the road for a full rebuild to "as new" condition - mechanical, elect... Many people are not aware that drum brakes have a built-in servo-assistance characteristic so are more powerful, all other things being equal, than disc brakes. in my case correct balance was easily achieved with careful choice of pad material and the pressure reduction to the rear deleted. Handbrake effectiveness is a matter of ensuring that the combination of gearing inside the caliper and lever arm lengths (handbrake and caliper) applies correct force on the pads for the given disc and wheel diameters. Best regards Bill Bill Allison Borders Group of Advanced Motorists Secretary (Cars) Chief Observer (Cars) 07702 739474 01750 22550 (before 21:00 please) www.bordersiam.org.uk and www.bordersiam.org.uk/ydi www.iamroadsmart.com The contents of this message, and any attachments, may include information that is private and confidential and should not be read by persons other than the intended addressee(s). IAM RoadSmart nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to check the email and any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please inform the sender and delete the message from your computer. IAM RoadSmart is a trading name. IAM RoadSmart is a trademark. Charity number: 249002 (England and Wales) SC041201 (Scotland). Registered Address: 1 Albany Place, Hyde Way, Welwyn Garden City AL7 3BT. On Monday, 1 April 2019, 21:49:15 BST, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: It's not a good idea to overbrake on the rear! That's why there is an apportioning valve on the donor XR2, so changing to discs will achieve no benefit and probably compromise the parking brake. Martin - Original Message - From: 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions I thought about the rear disc conversion but even on a twisty sprint track with heavy braking zones the rear drums never got any real heat in them. Perhaps with adjustable bias and maybe a bit more rear braking they might get hotter but I never felt that discs were a requirement. Bob Sent from my iPad On 1 Apr 2019, at 19:51, Darren Siepka wrote: Are the rears solid or vented? I found my 280odd cosworth vented rears keep glazing up and never get hot on the road no matter how I drove ! The 280 cougar fronts work fab though. 300mm would need 16" + iirc ? On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, 19:48 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, wrote: That's a very large disc size for a Quantum. What size wheels are you using? Bob Sent from my iPad On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:26, Tom Walker wrote: I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc, with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist unit (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and rear disc conversion. However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)... On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, wrote: After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single piston calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I purged all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled everything. I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse
Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
I came to the same conclusion, that there was no need (apart from appearance) for discs on the rear of a 2+2. There’s just no weight at the rear. I’ve got 280mm discs on the front with Wilwood 4 pot calipers, and standard XR2 drums at the rear with the inertia type pressure limiting values. Jim From: Susan and Martin Scott Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 9:42 AM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions I wasn't suggesting it couldn't be done (ie. adequate handbrake and correct brake balance with rear discs), just that it wasn't necessary, and that drums are more than adequate for the job, certainly in a Quantum. For most Quantum builders it would be unecessarily costly, for no gain and a possibility of rendering the car dangerous if the brake balance ended up incorrect. Martin - Original Message - From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions Martin et al On my saloon I have Honda Legend discs on the front with Wilwood Midilite calipers. The rear has Golf Gti alloy calipers on Peugot 205 discs with no apportioning valve. Can be seen here. Brake balance is near perfect and the handbrake is sufficiently powerful to lock the wheels on dry tarmac. Quantum saloon - full rebuild | welcome to the ... Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:26 am The quantum's off the road for a full rebuild to "as new" condition - mechanical, elect... Many people are not aware that drum brakes have a built-in servo-assistance characteristic so are more powerful, all other things being equal, than disc brakes. in my case correct balance was easily achieved with careful choice of pad material and the pressure reduction to the rear deleted. Handbrake effectiveness is a matter of ensuring that the combination of gearing inside the caliper and lever arm lengths (handbrake and caliper) applies correct force on the pads for the given disc and wheel diameters. Best regards Bill Bill Allison Borders Group of Advanced Motorists Secretary (Cars) Chief Observer (Cars) 07702 739474 01750 22550 (before 21:00 please) www.bordersiam.org.uk and www.bordersiam.org.uk/ydi www.iamroadsmart.com The contents of this message, and any attachments, may include information that is private and confidential and should not be read by persons other than the intended addressee(s). IAM RoadSmart nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to check the email and any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please inform the sender and delete the message from your computer. IAM RoadSmart is a trading name. IAM RoadSmart is a trademark. Charity number: 249002 (England and Wales) SC041201 (Scotland). Registered Address: 1 Albany Place, Hyde Way, Welwyn Garden City AL7 3BT. On Monday, 1 April 2019, 21:49:15 BST, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: It's not a good idea to overbrake on the rear! That's why there is an apportioning valve on the donor XR2, so changing to discs will achieve no benefit and probably compromise the parking brake. Martin - Original Message - From: 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions I thought about the rear disc conversion but even on a twisty sprint track with heavy braking zones the rear drums never got any real heat in them. Perhaps with adjustable bias and maybe a bit more rear braking they might get hotter but I never felt that discs were a requirement. Bob Sent from my iPad On 1 Apr 2019, at 19:51, Darren Siepka wrote: Are the rears solid or vented? I found my 280odd cosworth vented rears keep glazing up and never get hot on the road no matter how I drove ! The 280 cougar fronts work fab though. 300mm would need 16" + iirc ? On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, 19:48 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, wrote: That's a very large disc size for a Quantum. What size wheels are you using? Bob Sent from my iPad On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:26, Tom Walker wrote: I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc, with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist unit (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and rear disc conversion. However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)... On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, wrot
Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
Hi Martin I agree that such a conversion isn't within the capabilities of many owners but, to not discourage those who are competent to undertake such a conversion, I must say that it is not true that there is no benefit. Benefits include: Reliability - self-adjusting mechanism and handbrake actuator is in a "nice" environment (bathed in brake fluid) and will typically work for many, many years without attention. The similar calipers on the Honda in my sig just had their first rebuild at just on 12 yrs old! Condition of main components is visible without dismantlingMaintenance, when eventually it is needed is much easier - try removing a set of shoes, never mind replacing them. in the few minutes it takes to swap pads... And this might seem trivial but bleeding the rears is so much easier with a large, accessible nipple than a small, rusted-in one behind the backplate Oh - and the reduced unsprung weight is not to be sniffed at... Best regards Bill Bill Allison Borders Group of Advanced Motorists Secretary (Cars) Chief Observer (Cars) 07702 739474 01750 22550 (before 21:00 please) www.bordersiam.org.uk and www.bordersiam.org.uk/ydi www.iamroadsmart.com The contents of this message, and any attachments, may include information that is private and confidential and should not be read by persons other than the intended addressee(s). IAM RoadSmart nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to check the email and any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please inform the sender and delete the message from your computer. IAM RoadSmart is a trading name. IAM RoadSmart is a trademark. Charity number: 249002 (England and Wales) SC041201 (Scotland). Registered Address: 1 Albany Place, Hyde Way, Welwyn Garden City AL7 3BT. On Tuesday, 2 April 2019, 09:42:26 GMT+1, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: I wasn't suggesting it couldn't be done (ie. adequate handbrake and correct brake balance with rear discs), just that it wasn't necessary, and that drums are more than adequate for the job, certainly in a Quantum. For most Quantum builders it would be unecessarily costly, for no gain and a possibility of rendering the car dangerous if the brake balance ended up incorrect.Martin - Original Message - From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions Martin et al On my saloon I have Honda Legend discs on the front with Wilwood Midilite calipers. The rear has Golf Gti alloy calipers on Peugot 205 discs with no apportioning valve. Can be seen here. Brake balance is near perfect and the handbrake is sufficiently powerful to lock the wheels on dry tarmac. | | | | Quantum saloon - full rebuild | welcome to the ... Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:26 am The quantum's off the road for a full rebuild to "as new" condition - mechanical, elect... | | | Many people are not aware that drum brakes have a built-in servo-assistance characteristic so are more powerful, all other things being equal, than disc brakes. in my case correct balance was easily achieved with careful choice of pad material and the pressure reduction to the rear deleted. Handbrake effectiveness is a matter of ensuring that the combination of gearing inside the caliper and lever arm lengths (handbrake and caliper) applies correct force on the pads for the given disc and wheel diameters. Best regards Bill Bill Allison Borders Group of Advanced Motorists Secretary (Cars) Chief Observer (Cars) 07702 739474 01750 22550 (before 21:00 please) www.bordersiam.org.uk and www.bordersiam.org.uk/ydi www.iamroadsmart.com The contents of this message, and any attachments, may include information that is private and confidential and should not be read by persons other than the intended addressee(s). IAM RoadSmart nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to check the email and any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please inform the sender and delete the message from your computer. IAM RoadSmart is a trading name. IAM RoadSmart is a trademark. Charity number: 249002 (England and Wales) SC041201 (Scotland). Registered Address: 1 Albany Place, Hyde Way, Welwyn Garden City AL7 3BT. On Monday, 1 April 2019, 21:49:15 BST, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: It's not a good idea to overbrake on the rear! That's why there is an apportioning valve on the donor XR2, so changing to discs will achieve no benefit and probably compromise the parking brake. Martin - Original Message - From: 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions I thought about the rear disc conversion but even on a twist
Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
16" (205/40 16) On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, 19:48 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, < quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote: > That's a very large disc size for a Quantum. What size wheels are you > using? > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > > On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:26, Tom Walker wrote: > > I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc, > with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist > unit (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and > rear disc conversion. > However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since > fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour > yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)... > > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, < > quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single >> piston calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot >> system, I can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. >> I purged all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled >> everything. I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just >> looking at options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking >> horse poo these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather >> have a more performance focused set up. >> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the >> standard servo and master cylinder. >> >> >> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html >> >> Bob >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Quantum Owners Group" group. >> To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en >> >> IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As >> Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum >> Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or >> in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any >> person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or >> alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained >> within this or related message(s). >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Quantum Owners Group" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Gro
Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
>:And this might seem trivial but bleeding the rears is so much easier with a >large, accessible nipple than a small, rusted-in one behind the backplate I intend to overcome that with a stainless bleed nipple Chris G From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:23 AM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions Hi Martin I agree that such a conversion isn't within the capabilities of many owners but, to not discourage those who are competent to undertake such a conversion, I must say that it is not true that there is no benefit. Benefits include: Reliability - self-adjusting mechanism and handbrake actuator is in a "nice" environment (bathed in brake fluid) and will typically work for many, many years without attention. The similar calipers on the Honda in my sig just had their first rebuild at just on 12 yrs old! Condition of main components is visible without dismantling Maintenance, when eventually it is needed is much easier - try removing a set of shoes, never mind replacing them. in the few minutes it takes to swap pads... And this might seem trivial but bleeding the rears is so much easier with a large, accessible nipple than a small, rusted-in one behind the backplate Oh - and the reduced unsprung weight is not to be sniffed at... Best regards Bill Bill Allison Borders Group of Advanced Motorists Secretary (Cars) Chief Observer (Cars) 07702 739474 01750 22550 (before 21:00 please) www.bordersiam.org.uk and www.bordersiam.org.uk/ydi www.iamroadsmart.com The contents of this message, and any attachments, may include information that is private and confidential and should not be read by persons other than the intended addressee(s). IAM RoadSmart nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to check the email and any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please inform the sender and delete the message from your computer. IAM RoadSmart is a trading name. IAM RoadSmart is a trademark. Charity number: 249002 (England and Wales) SC041201 (Scotland). Registered Address: 1 Albany Place, Hyde Way, Welwyn Garden City AL7 3BT. On Tuesday, 2 April 2019, 09:42:26 GMT+1, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: I wasn't suggesting it couldn't be done (ie. adequate handbrake and correct brake balance with rear discs), just that it wasn't necessary, and that drums are more than adequate for the job, certainly in a Quantum. For most Quantum builders it would be unecessarily costly, for no gain and a possibility of rendering the car dangerous if the brake balance ended up incorrect. Martin - Original Message - From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions Martin et al On my saloon I have Honda Legend discs on the front with Wilwood Midilite calipers. The rear has Golf Gti alloy calipers on Peugot 205 discs with no apportioning valve. Can be seen here. Brake balance is near perfect and the handbrake is sufficiently powerful to lock the wheels on dry tarmac. Quantum saloon - full rebuild | welcome to the ... Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:26 am The quantum's off the road for a full rebuild to "as new" condition - mechanical, elect... Many people are not aware that drum brakes have a built-in servo-assistance characteristic so are more powerful, all other things being equal, than disc brakes. in my case correct balance was easily achieved with careful choice of pad material and the pressure reduction to the rear deleted. Handbrake effectiveness is a matter of ensuring that the combination of gearing inside the caliper and lever arm lengths (handbrake and caliper) applies correct force on the pads for the given disc and wheel diameters. Best regards Bill Bill Allison Borders Group of Advanced Motorists Secretary (Cars) Chief Observer (Cars) 07702 739474 01750 22550 (before 21:00 please) www.bordersiam.org.uk and www.bordersiam.org.uk/ydi www.iamroadsmart.com The contents of this message, and any attachments, may include information that is private and confidential and should not be read by persons other than the intended addressee(s). IAM RoadSmart nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to check the email and any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please inform the sender and delete the message from your computer. IAM RoadSmart is a trading name. IAM RoadSmart is a trademark. Charity number: 249002 (England and Wales) SC041201 (Scotland). Registered Address: 1 Albany Place, Hyde Way, Welwyn Garden City AL7 3BT. On Monday, 1 April 2019, 21:49:15 BST, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: It
