Re: [Quantum Owners] Gearbox removal
Hi Bill, Thanks for your insight. It does look a tight squeeze, so I was thinking I could possibly get in more of a mess by attempting to take the box off the engine. At least if I take engine and box out together I'm commiting to it. Regards, Martin - Original Message - From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Gearbox removal Short answer is no, however if you jack the car onto blocks and support the engine with a jack under the sump, remove the n/s hub and driveshaft, gearbox support subframe where it's attached to the body, clutch cable, speedo cable, selector rod clamp and exhaust system hangers it _might_ hang down enough on the nearside (after disconnecting water hoses, fuel pipes, wiring, etc) to get the box off. If not then disconnect the engine top mount and lower the engine further. You will need to lever the offside inner CVJ off the gearbox simultaneously with sliding the gearbox off the engine and on reassembly offer the CVJ to the gearbox simultaneously with offering the gearbox to the engine. Tricky - possibly quicker in the long run to remove both driveshafts to begin with. But by the time you've done all this you've done just about all that's necessary to fully remove the engine/box... In case you're not aware, instead of lifting the body off the running gear, you can take the engine out upwards, which might be easier. http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild It requires undoing the exhaust manifold and holding it clear, or disconnecting the system from the manifold, but avoids the need to remove the exhaust system and the inlet manifold assembly. If the radiator is in the engine bay, not in the nose-cone, you might need to remove it. You also need to remove the brake servo/master cylinder. Hope that's helpful. Best regards Bill Bill Allison Borders Group of Advanced Motorists Secretary (Cars) Chief Observer (Cars) 07702 739474 01750 22550 (before 21:00 please) www.bordersiam.org.uk and www.bordersiam.org.uk/ydi www.iamroadsmart.com https://www.facebook.com/BordersAdvancedMotorists The contents of this message, and any attachments, may include information that is private and confidential and should not be read by persons other than the intended addressee(s). IAM RoadSmart nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to check the email and any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please inform the sender and delete the message from your computer. IAM RoadSmart is a trading name. IAM RoadSmart is a trademark. Charity number: 249002 (England and Wales) SC041201 (Scotland). Registered Address: 1 Albany Place, Hyde Way, Welwyn Garden City AL7 3BT. On Sunday, 30 June 2019, 18:30:38 BST, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: I really should know the answer to this, however, when I assembled my Q Saloon the engine and gearbox were inserted from below as a joined unit, and just about cleared the anti-roll bar on both sides! Anyway, to my question... Is it possible to replace the clutch on a saloon with the engine in position, just by moving the gearbox aside? Martin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/8544BD5F25F34A4D9DF08ACAD60A12BA%40computer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group,
Re: [Quantum Owners] Gearbox removal
Short answer is no, however if you jack the car onto blocks and support the engine with a jack under the sump, remove the n/s hub and driveshaft, gearbox support subframe where it's attached to the body, clutch cable, speedo cable, selector rod clamp and exhaust system hangers it _might_ hang down enough on the nearside (after disconnecting water hoses, fuel pipes, wiring, etc) to get the box off. If not then disconnect the engine top mount and lower the engine further. You will need to lever the offside inner CVJ off the gearbox simultaneously with sliding the gearbox off the engine and on reassembly offer the CVJ to the gearbox simultaneously with offering the gearbox to the engine. Tricky - possibly quicker in the long run to remove both driveshafts to begin with. But by the time you've done all this you've done just about all that's necessary to fully remove the engine/box... In case you're not aware, instead of lifting the body off the running gear, you can take the engine out upwards, which might be easier. http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild It requires undoing the exhaust manifold and holding it clear, or disconnecting the system from the manifold, but avoids the need to remove the exhaust system and the inlet manifold assembly. If the radiator is in the engine bay, not in the nose-cone, you might need to remove it. You also need to remove the brake servo/master cylinder. Hope that's helpful. Best regards Bill Bill Allison Borders Group of Advanced Motorists Secretary (Cars) Chief Observer (Cars) 07702 739474 01750 22550 (before 21:00 please) www.bordersiam.org.uk and www.bordersiam.org.uk/ydi www.iamroadsmart.com https://www.facebook.com/BordersAdvancedMotorists The contents of this message, and any attachments, may include information that is private and confidential and should not be read by persons other than the intended addressee(s). IAM RoadSmart nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to check the email and any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please inform the sender and delete the message from your computer. IAM RoadSmart is a trading name. IAM RoadSmart is a trademark. Charity number: 249002 (England and Wales) SC041201 (Scotland). Registered Address: 1 Albany Place, Hyde Way, Welwyn Garden City AL7 3BT. On Sunday, 30 June 2019, 18:30:38 BST, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: I really should know the answer to this, however, when I assembled my Q Saloon the engine and gearbox were inserted from below as a joined unit, and just about cleared the anti-roll bar on both sides!Anyway, to my question... Is it possible to replace the clutch on a saloon with the engine in position, just by moving the gearbox aside?Martin -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/8544BD5F25F34A4D9DF08ACAD60A12BA%40computer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this me