Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon boot skin & inner separation

[kynastonp .]

On the three cars I built the boot lids were glued with a black glue possibly a 
sikaflex product

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Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 5:50:00 PM
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Saloon boot skin & inner separation

As per thread subject I have noticed the boot outer skin and inner shell are 
separating in places on my saloon. It looks like some sort of black 
sealant/mastic has been used on mine. Anyone know how they were joined 
originally by factory and any recommendations on method to fix ?

Thanks
John



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Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Ventilation

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When I built my saloon people were complaining about misting of the side and 
rear windows , the factory suggested fitting the astramax vent in the rear of 
the door opening . I also fitted vents under the rear window to allow air 
through the parcel shelf and more vents from the sides of the boot into the 
inner wing . Never had a problem after that . The vents some people have fitted 
in the rear wings are from a Nissan bluebird from 1986 onwards.

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Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 10:17:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Ventilation

Further to what Jim was saying about air pressure,
I was told that the venting assisted in making sufficient air movement in the 
cabin to let the blower pull in air more easily whilst not causing a negative 
differential to the outside which would have encouraged leaks..
I have the grey Slat type vents in my saloon door post.

The best fix for windscreen misting would be to put an electric heated screen 
in , which are a straight fit :-)


On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 10:05 Jim Hearne, 
mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote:
My understand of the issue with the ventilation in the saloon was more misting 
of the rear side windows and rear screen.
Hence the fitting of the vents in the B pillars (mine has those) or in the rear 
quarters.
I don’t remember having any real issues on my saloon but it does also have the 
splash guards in front of the front wheel arches.

As you say, the only real exit from a unmodified saloon is via the door hinge 
openings.
Although, remember when the door is shut 99% of that area is blocked off by the 
other half of the hinge.

I believe there have been cases of the bonded in glass popping out when doors 
are slammed due to the air pressure.

Jim


From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 8:12 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Ventilation

John

Am I correct in thinking that, like many Q saloon owners, you are troubled with 
dampness in the cabin and the consequent high (in comparison with mass-produced 
cars) tendency for windows to steam up and such?

Prompted by a drive in torrential rain last year which caused the windscreen to 
instantly and heavily steam up, reducing vision to near zero, I investigated 
and as a result modified my Q as follows, which has resulted in dramatic 
improvement. The mod is simple. Block off the heater air intakes in the 
underside of the front wings just behind the headlights (I used some nice 
springy closed cell polyurethane 50mm sponge cut oversize to the roughly 
triangular shape of the intakes). The heater now draws air only through the 
door hinge holes, where the air is relatively dry. The front intakes, 
effectively within the wheel arch, drew not only moist air but water droplets 
when driving in even quite light rain. Other owners have fitted wing arch 
panels to shield the intakes from heavy tyre spray but I believe that to be 
ineffective in the more extreme wet conditions. You will be wondering whether 
the area of the hinge openings is sufficient, as was I, but although I was 
prepared to drill a couple of additional 30mm dia holes each side that has not 
been necessary. The area of the hinge holes is approximately equal to the area 
of the gap around the lower (below waistline) portion of the door and at 80cm2 
each side appears to be sufficient.

B pillar vents -  mine has them but I believe the only real benefit is on the 
nearside, to prevent a build-up of petrol fume in the event of an imperfect 
seal in any of the filler pipe joins.

If you would like a chat to discuss further, my contact details are below.

HTH

Best regards
Bill

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My saloon (late 1991 factory 

Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please

[kynastonp .]

Main door glass on 2+2 was fiesta MK1 or 2 , saloon used astra glass for front 
door.

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Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:40:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please

Oh dear,
Sorry to hear about your incident, at least nobody was hurt.

You might want to check the rear brake setup if it’s spun like that, it may be 
overbraked on the rear, does it have rear disks ?

I am trying to find my list of where the glass comes from.
Windscreen is certainly standard Mk1 or Mk2  Fiesta  (either will fit with the 
matching rubber)
I think, and i might be wrong until i find my list, the quarterlights were 
Passat and the door glass is Astra (not donor)
I know the early hard top glass is Mk4 Escort but i think the later hard top 
(yes is was bonded in) was Golf

There is a steel tube that runs up the windscreen pillars , hopefully that 
hasn’t bent.

You should be able to get a new hockey stick from Quantum

I will keep looking for my non donor car parts list, unless anybody else can 
find a copy, used to be on the old smartgroups site before we moved to Google.

Jim


From: Gordon Harker
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 11:20 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please

Strong little cars those 2+2's and did not intend to find out until under hard 
braking on a dry road the back over took the front.  Ended up visiting a ditch 
and hedge.  Still restored my faith in people, they stopped and towed me out, 
drove home.

On assessment, one bent tie rod, and lot broken glass and some excess hawthorne 
hedge.

So, does any one know what the glass is please?  Specifically

Rear heated glass on the later hard top, bonded I believe.
Front quarter light n/s
Assume windscreen and passenger window are standard MK2 bits (believe based on 
83 ish car)

the windscreen did intially survive, but the hedge got in on the way our, guess 
it was being vindictive.

Other things are the fibre glass top (hockey stick) on top of quarter light is 
broken and front corner to hard top and not sitting flush at moment.  Hard top 
should fibre glass ok and hockey stick may unless anyone has one lying around.

Passenger door jammed shut but got even gaps all round, so will look at on a 
dry weeked.

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Re: [Quantum Owners] H4 headlamps

[kynastonp]

Morette made a conversion for the MK3 89-95 fiesta ,it had two different
sized lenses as you describe. They seem to be still available at
morette.shop and they have a contact link.

On Tue, 9 Feb 2021, 17:59 ,  wrote:

> Hi
>
> My H4 has a blown main beam headlamp bulb. The problem is no-one
> recognises what it is. As I understand it the original kit used the Fiesta
> integrated lights. However this one has been fitted with a mod - each side
> is a pair of circular light modules of different sizes. Does anyone know
> what the bulbs were that were used and if possible, where to find
> replacements? I have a feeling they are halogens, they are quite bright.
> But the pattern is unknown. It has been suggested that this might have been
> a Moretti (?) unit.
>
> Any info on bulb type and suppliers gratefully received!
>
>
> Regards
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

[kynastonp .]

Early cars used a modified fiesta clamp with an extra bolt hole bracket welded 
on to make the clamp symmetrical . I thought the u clamp on later cars was MK3 
escort but experience says Jim is probably correct.

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Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 10:45:47 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

On the saloon only the ARB itself and the rubber bushes are Mk2 Fiesta.
There are no mounting brackets like on the Fiesta, the clamps bolt directly to 
the floor.
And the Clamps are top hat shaped clamps with 2 bolts rather than P shaped with 
1 bolt on the Fiesta
>From memory they came from Mk3 Fiesta but i might be wrong.

Jim


From: John R
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

Hi All

Are the saloon rear ARB brackets, P clamps etc. custom QSC or standard Fiesta 
MK2?  I do have a build manual but it does not seem to specify.

Currently running what looks like a standard XR2 ARB 14mm diameter but as I 
will be rebuilding rear suspension soon thinking of upgrading it.

John

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Re: [Quantum Owners] how to test water temp sender / meter?

[kynastonp .]

Earth the wire going to the sender, meter should move to the hot end of the 
range no movement suspect gauge, movement suspect sender.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:12:06 AM
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] how to test water temp sender / meter?

Hi,

My water temperature gauge does not move anymore

how to test if it is the xr2 dashboard meter or the water temp sender?

Hans




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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon tow bar

[kynastonp .]

You need a picture of the inside of the boot  , there is a steel strengthening 
piece longer than the number plate in the boot that spreads the load along the 
rear panel. You can just see the 4 bolts that hold it in place just under the 
number plate.

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Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:45:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon tow bar


Martin has given me the photos and I've added them to the QOC site as a 
FAQ/Gallery.

https://www.quantumowners.club/index.php/faq-qoc/27-faq-saloon/335-quantum-saloon-towbar

Regards,
Steve

On 16/07/2020 10:07, susanandmartin wrote:

I took 5 photos of the towbar on my saloon and tried to send them yesterday, 
but the file size was too big, so unsuccessful. I’ll send them via WETRANSFER, 
which will then make them dowloadable for a period (7 days IIRC)

Please ignore the rust (which shows up more in the photos!) I’ll have to paint 
it again. NB there are 4 bolts across the rear panel, these attach the towbar 
and a strip of steel (1.5 inches from memory by about 4mm thick) which is on 
the inside of the panel to spread the load. The 2 outermost bolts are visible 
near the ends of and under the number plate.  There  is a vertical strip of 
steel welded to the end of the towbar extension which is bolter to the vertical 
GRP behind the axle (as per diagram in an earlier note). Russ, let me know if 
you need any more photos.

Martin Scott



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From: philfi2clean cleaning
Sent: 15 July 2020 20:14
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon tow bar



i do have a 2+2 towbar ...i just need to get into my cellar and find 
itwhich i wont be able to do until saturday...ill post some pics for you



On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 at 19:36, Darren Siepka 
mailto:dar...@siepka.me.uk>> wrote:

I'm looking for a 2+2 towbar if anyone has one for sale or has the details how 
it differs to the saloon one (I have a bar fitted on my saloon  I can 
measure/copy)



On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, 14:38 russ price, 
mailto:flobra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 I tried ADS a couple times over the last few months and got no reply so had 
more or less given up on them, today i thought i would give them one last try 
and got through, they will get back to me but it looks hopeful.

Aufer Sorry to have messed you around, however if you are looking to sell yours 
have you seen the ad in classifieds looking for one.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 9:13:55 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:

Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I 
assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, 
mounting points etc much apreciated.

Russ

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Gelcoat query

[kynastonp .]

This happened to my saloon at 18 months. Quantum paid for several cars to
be painted as the gelcoat colours they used were not UV stable . Polishing
or cutting is only a temporary solution .

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020, 11:56 'MatthewG' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to get my Q back on the road after a long break. She's been
> stored outside and badly needs a polish but what I'm finding is streaks
> that seem to somehow be deep within the gelcoat. They aren't coming out
> even after a good polish. I've attached a picture of a bit (pre-polish) to
> try and show what I'm talking about. Have any of you seen this before? Is
> the fix just to use a cutting compound instead of polish? Or am I going to
> have to just accept that this is inevitable on a 24 year old car? (Possibly
> related question: how much is a respray these days?)
>
> Any thoughts very gratefully received.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum 2+2 Brakes advise please (and fan switch!)

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Jim is correct ,the early saloons did not fit the rear limiting valves and 
quantum specified the smaller rear cylinders to balance out the brakes. Over 
time some cars were fitted with the larger cylinders when maintenance was done 
and this caused problems to owners. The factory sent out a warning notice to 
owners about this . They then modified the cars to take the limiting valve 
,marked the location on the body and included the instructions on how to modify 
the valve bracket .

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Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 2:42:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum 2+2 Brakes advise please (and fan switch!)

The rear  brake cylinders are from Mk1 / Mk2 Fiesta

Possible sizes are:

Mk1 Fiesta:

15 mm
17.5 mm
19 mm

Mk2 Fiesta

15 mm
17.5 mm
20.6 mm

The bigger sizes are for the XR2
The actual size Quantum recommended changed and it was also different depending 
on if you fitted the rear bias / inertia valves to limit the rear brake 
pressure.
The problem is the rear of the 2+2 is a lot lighter than the rear of a Mk1 or 
Mk2 Fiesta and the rear wheels can lock under heavy braking which isn’t a good 
thing.
I seem to remember i was asked when i bought my kit what my car spec was and if 
i was using the rear bias valves and Quantum supplied the correct size.

If you’ve had no problems with the rear brakes then i would refit whatever size 
is on there.
If you take the drum off and pull the rubber back you should be able to measure 
the bore dia with some calipers without having the remove anything else.


If you have a gas torch or hot air gun then get the engine hot, drain some of 
the coolant off (carefully) and then heat the switch as much as you can.
This may free it off.
Otherwise, you will have to fit one in the top hose, you can buy adaptors from 
the kit car parts suppliers, a tube with a boss in to take a switch.

If you manage to get the switch out or fit a different one then make sure you 
replace the connector.
As soon as the connector or switch contacts overheat they damage the other 
half, replacing the switch with a overheated connector will just result in the 
connection overheating again and needing another new switch.
Ideally the fan should be switched via a relay.
Interestingly while sorting out a early Mk1 Fiesta loom for 003 i found there 
was a factory fitted relay on the fan, something they must have dropped later 
to save a few pennys.

Jim


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Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 1:42 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Quantum 2+2 Brakes advise please (and fan switch!)

Hiya folks

I am after some advise please?  I am looking to change the rear brake cylinders 
on Q2-002 as I have a very minor weep issue, I have read both the build 
manuals, and both state that these are not standard Fiesta parts.  The late 
build manual says 'change the rear wheel cylinders to the correct size, new 
ones are supplied in the kit', and the original build manual says '17.5mm for 
Vented Front discs, and 15mm for solid front discs, this is not the same on any 
other Fiesta'...

Does anyone know of the correct parts please, and also are Ferrodo still the 
brake shoe brand of choice, or is there anything more suitable?  Also I may 
change the front discs / pads as I am not going anywhere fast (pun intended!), 
is there anything to look out for on these in terms of brand etc?

Finally - the fan control switch has failed, I have a new one to fit, but no 
amount of socket work will shift it, and I am heading for causing damage - any 
recommendations for where and how to fit an new switch to the cooling system, 
or should i just fit a manual switch on the dashboard?

Hope you are all keeping safe, and best regards

James T
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

[kynastonp .]

Pre 1983 is MK1 fiesta

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:43:39 PM
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

Interesting.  So the Logbook needs to read historic?  I wondered if that had 
changed as we don’t do tax discs anymore and the whole taxing process is more 
automated online.

Showing my ignorance here but what donor is the 1978 car?  That would be Fiesta 
Mk1?

They certainly have changed the reg system over the years, then.

ATB

Derek


On 24 Jan 2020, at 13:06, Darren Siepka 
mailto:dar...@siepka.me.uk>> wrote:

To change the log book you need to apply for tax in the post office.
Complete section 7 tax class, change to historic.
They will give you your free tax disc and send off the logbook to be changed.

All three of my quantum only have a single date of registration.all are 
correctly registered as the appropriate quantum type.
On one there is a note on front page in sect3 special notes: states 1.kit built 
converted- assembled from parts all of which may not be new.

There are no other notes or comments.
My saloon is dated 85 , one 2-2 86 and one is 78.
I don't know about the other two but the 78 2-2 I built and kept its doner reg 
in full
They all only have simple rivet on plates that old q used to issue.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 12:51 Derek Clews, 
mailto:derekcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Cheers Jim,

Good point.  I have forgotten it was as late as 1998 SVA came in.  Both kits I 
built myself were early 2000’s and SVA’ed.  My Coupe (which I did not build) 
has a single 1986 age.  On the tax free issue, you get road tax online. And you 
have to apply for it as usual but pay nothing.  So I sort of assume that if the 
reg date is 40 year or more ago you pay nothing with no human intervention?

Interestingly my chassis number is a long format one but I was allowed to rivet 
a pre-stamped plate on the 2+2 frame and another on the fibreglass body.  That 
was Aberdeen in 2001.  My Blackjack Avion number came moulded into the 
fibreglass body tub.  That was 2004.

Derek


On 24 Jan 2020, at 12:41, Jim Hearne 
mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote:

>I would say most Quantum’s are pre-SVA

Except for the Xtreme’s

Jim


From: Jim Hearne
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:40 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

I would say most Quantum’s are pre-SVA
My 2+2 is probably the closed pre-SVA, i took the paperwork down to the local 
VRO office the evening of the very last day before the SVA came into force in 
1998
My 2+2 is a B reg, not the donor reg but another allocated one. It has 2 dates 
on the registration, 1985 (donor age) and 1998 (registration date).

The trouble was all the different VRO offices had different interpretations of 
the rules.
Mine let me have the chassis number as Q2-099 but i know many other VRO said it 
had to be a minimum length.
I was also allowed to have my chassis plate screwed on, other VRO insisted the 
chassis number was stamped into the spaceframe.

A lot of older kit cars were still registered as the donor car, for quite a 
while you could get it corrected by the DVLA without a problem but nowadays 
it’s a lot of hassle.

Jim



From: Derek Clews
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:25 PM
To: Quantum Owners Forum
Cc: Derek Clews
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

Hi Daren,

Thanks for the info.  That would seems to indicate it is the reg doc date.

My Q 2+2 which I built was SVA’ed and given a first registered 2001 as a 
Quantum but age related plate due to donor parts qualifying as 1989.  So which 
age is zero tax reference?

Were the older Q’ss even pre SVA?  I know there was some issue about a few kit 
cars that were not registered correctly as the Kit type they became.  But my 
Coupe certainly is registered as a Quantum, but just 1986 still.  My Son’s 
Coupe is a Q plate, but registered to donor date.  So many combinations.  If 
the reference is the plate a Q can never be tax free as there is not associated 
age, but the 2+2 is only 9 years away from tax free.  If it is the reg doc date 
new ball game and Q’s can be tax exempt.

Derek

On 24 Jan 2020, at 09:06, Darren Siepka  wrote:

Hi, yes my 2+2 has already gone over her 40.
She was a pre sva build on an s plate
There are no notes on the v5 showing when it was converted to a Quantum.
The area around q reg is very confusing , with some saying they have and some 
not.
Darren


On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 08:38 Derek Clews,  wrote:
Hi All,

I understand that after a rolling 40 years your car is classic tax exempt.  In 
the next few years are any of our Quantums falling into that category?  I 
realised one of my Q’s is registered as 1986.  Must be the original donor 
date……….. but that’s what is on the document.  Does anyone know what happens 
about Q plate cars do they also get the tax exempt?

Cheers

Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon tow bar

[kynastonp .]

Item 292996428941 on eBay you have to extend part a  till it reaches the axle 
tunnel

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Saloon tow bar

Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a saloon?  I 
assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on designs, 
mounting points etc much apreciated.
Russ

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon tow bar

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The quantum towbar is a modified MK1/2 ford fiesta .the longitudinal bar is
lengthened and bolts through the  back of the rear axle tunnel. There are
two bolts holding the back part just above the ball and they bolt through a
bar across the inside width of the boot which is bolted through the boot
floor in four places. Item 282694164669 on eBay

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> Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a
> saloon?  I assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on
> designs, mounting points etc much apreciated.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Dynamic mouldings on Goblin Works Garage

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I understand Dynamic mouldings ceased trading over a year ago.

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Dynamic mouldings on Goblin Works Garage

Anyone got the correct current contact number for Dynamic Mouldings please? ( I 
did search but it throws up a lot of different numbers which I suspect are 
outdated)

John

On Thursday, 18 January 2018 21:36:25 UTC, James Davis wrote:
Just watching Goblin Works Garage on Quest and they are using Eddie at Dynamic 
Mouldings to do the bodywork for a motorbike. Nice little shot of the back end 
of a 2+2 in there.

James Davis.

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon dimensions

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Front track will be different on a saloon to any fiesta as the lower track 
control arms are from an escort rs turbo ,

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Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 10:54:45 PM
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon dimensions

Hi Darren

Just looked at my Fiesta Haynes manual.
Track.
Saloons & Van:
Front - 1367mm (53.9in)
Rear - 1321mm (52.0in)
XR2:
Front - 1385mm (54.6in)
Rear - 1339mm (52.8in)

Track is measured to the centre of the wheel so different wheel widths and 
offsets will change it slightly.

Hope this helps

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Rear Suspension

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When I built my 3 cars 2 saloon 1 2+2 ,I had the same nose down effect from
using xr2 front and 1100 rear . Because of the poor front ground clearance
I opted to use 1600 diesel front springs which ford claimed were same rate
as xr2 but longer length.

On Wed, 11 Sep 2019, 08:44 John R,  wrote:

> What rear springs do folks recommend?
>
> My rear ride height seems too high - much bigger gap between the arch and
> tyre at rear than the front. I have noticed same on pictures of other
> saloons. Wondering if this is a design feature or wrong length springs have
> been fitted at some point.
>
> The build manual recommends soft 1100 springs. Mine was built using a mk2
> XR2 donor (shorter stiffer springs?) but these may well have been changed
> since original build.
>
> The car handles ok but to me the stance does not "look right" as is.
>
> John
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Nose Cone Wiring

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If you want a neat package and 1000 volts peak reverse volts try digi-key part 
number gbpc3510-nd  even has a hole for a mounting bolt. All the diodes do is 
drive the relay to position the headlamp cover motors so only the coil current 
of the relay is passed through the diode.

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Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 2:35:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Nose Cone Wiring

10A is certainly enough current handling capacity for a couple of indicators 
and it may well be that the diodes are not subjected to significant back emf.

If it's working, they're probably fine. But if it fails, consider getting a 
diode with a higher reverse voltage rating. Of course getting one that is 
encapsulated is not going to be easy, but there are easy ways to solve that 
problem.

Meanwhile, don't worry.

Julian Coleman
City Audio Services



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Eek, I didn't know there were different sizes..

When I rewired mine I got these from car builders solutions.

https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/silicon-diode

They seem to work and they were the only diodes they sell.

Chris G

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Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 8:59 PM
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Cc: Derek Clews
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Nose Cone Wiring

Dear All,

In the Q manual the nose cone wiring has two diodes. The values required
are not mentioned. What was the Quantum spec?

I appreciate it is in a 12V system so 15 or 16 volt would cover, but does
anyone know the minimum wattage?

Thanks

Derek

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Nose Cone Wiring

[kynastonp .]

The diodes supplied were 1N4005 , 5 amp diodes . all they are doing is
driving the coil of a relay when either the sidelights or the headlamp main
beam flash is used  so 5 amp should be more than adequate. I used a bridge
rectifier on mine as it is easy to mount and comes with Lucas spade
connectors , needs a bit of care to get the right diodes ~~ to
sidelight/headlamp and- to relay coil .

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 23:13 Derek Clews,  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> In the Q manual the nose cone wiring has two diodes.  The values required
> are not mentioned.  What was the Quantum spec?
>
> I appreciate it is in a 12V system so 15 or 16 volt would cover, but does
> anyone know the minimum wattage?
>
> Thanks
>
> Derek
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Adrian Flux...

[kynastonp .]

If it is illegal to insure a car more than once how does "marmalade"
insurance for a learner work?

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 16:25 'Mark Jones' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I am not in this field of expertise, but I am pretty sure it is actually
> illegal to insure a car more than once at a time. Happy to be corrected if
> info is incorrect.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 01:49, Chris Young  wrote:
>
> I looked at cancelling my Q a while back after about 6months and was told
> I would get nothing back. I had paid upfront. The monthly payments in my
> mind have never been a kinda Pay as you go option, but something you have
> to pay in full. Apart from the rudeness, doesn't sound like anything
> unexpected going on
>
> I don't think there is anything stopping you having two policies on  car,
> except if you claim and they fight about who is going to pay etc and it
> turns into a nightmare.
>
> (from my mobile)
>
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2019, 23:28 Darren Siepka,  wrote:
>
>> This sounds like they use the finance house like I used to do with
>> certain clients when I was selling IT installs.
>> The finance house used to pay me in full on the day they signed up, then
>> the client paid the finance house and was nothing to do with me. Saved me
>> the headache of chasing a bad payer!
>> I suspect fluxes has been paid in full already and don't want to
>> reimburse the finance people!
>> Pretty poor show and very unprofessional !
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2019, 23:14 Susan and Martin Scott, <
>> susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> May I ask why you want to cancel the policy with them and then move to
>>> another provider? (other than moving away from AF)
>>> I take this opportunity to add that I moved away from them when my
>>> renewal came a few years ago. They failed to provide agreed value paperwork
>>> after 3 months (despite them insisting I provided paperwork to them within
>>> 14 days... I provided it within 7 days). If Steve Kodz hadn't assisted I
>>> don't think it would ever have been resolved.
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Niall McCracken 
>>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 7:43 PM
>>> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Adrian Flux...
>>>
>>> I have had an extremely unsavoury exchange with Adrian Flux today
>>> regarding cancelling my Quantum Insurance.
>>>
>>>  I'm trying to cancel 6 months through a policy and I'm paying for it
>>> monthly. They've told me that the only way I can cancel is by paying the
>>> entire remaining 6 months of the policy upfront. I argued that if they
>>> aren't providing a service they can't possibly charge for it. They reason
>>> this is because the policy and the payment for the policy are completely
>>> unconnected. The "credit agreement" is unconnected to the policy and simply
>>> has to be paid no matter what irrespective of what happens to the actual
>>> policy. This seems fairly insane to me. The extremely - extremely rude and
>>> aggressive person at Adrian Flux told me that it was explained when I took
>>> the policy out that I wasn't entitled to any refund; I said I didn't want
>>> any refund I just wanted to cancel the policy. She said this actually meant
>>> a refund from the total amount of credit I had taken out irrespective of
>>> what happens.
>>> She then, when not shouting over me tried to explain my consumer rights
>>> and advised "strongly" against complaining to the FSA or Ombudsman as it
>>> would be a "waste of time". Effectively this means I can't cancel the
>>> insurance on my Quantum, leaving it impossible for anyone else to insure it.
>>> I may be being a bit naïve here but I have never, ever, heard of a
>>> credit agreement for insurance operating in this way. Is it just me or does
>>> that sound completely bonkers?
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coil springs 2+2

[kynastonp]

Before the quantum red springs were available I fitted MK2 fiesta diesel
springs to both a 2+2 and saloon , slightly stiffer but an increased ride
height ,on the rear I used 1100 rear springs.

On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, 12:54 Hans Defauwes,  wrote:

> On my 2+2 I have 1.4 springs
> Xr2 are to low for all those nasty dutch road bumps/drempels
> Hans
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> Van: 'teegee777' via Quantum Owners Group 
> Verzonden: ‎3-‎4-‎2019 09:07
> Aan: Quantum Owners Group 
> Onderwerp: [Quantum Owners] Coil springs 2+2
>
> The 2+2 failed its MOT today with just a broken front coil spring, I tried
> telling the MOT guy that Quantums have dual springs on the front but he
> didn't seem to believe me. I guess this repeats an old train of posts,but
> I've trailed through them and can't find a cheap answer ! (I don't want to
> change to adjustable Spax). I appear to have red quantum springs, Off the
> car they measure about 262mm by 107mm diameter. Is there a modern
> equivalent to put on which is about the same size/tension etc? I believe
> that the Quantum red springs are no longer available? Thanks Tony
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars

[kynastonp]

The silicon is heat transfer paste ,to transfer heat from the module into
the distributor and keep the module cool .

On Sun, 17 Feb 2019, 13:55 'teegee777' via Quantum Owners Group <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>   I thought I would update on my 2+2 issue. It just stopped on
> the A14,no hard shoulder...but the Police recovered me within 10 minutes.
> It started again after they unhitched me and I trailered it home (it drove
> on and off the trailer). I topped it up with petrol and was going out of my
> drive when it stopped again (stopped so quickly it had to be electrical). I
> started to look at it last week again after about 3 months of non-use (back
> and shoulder injury). I charged battery and it started first time, left it
> running on the drive and it stopped after about 5 minutes, no spark at
> plugs or coil (king lead). It started again after about 20 minutes and then
> completely failed to start.The coil seemed o.k. but ordered a new coil and
> ignition module (Intermotor 15020). The ignition module fixed the problem,
> it came with silicon to heat insulate it from the distributor. One thing to
> watch was it came with "male" connectors on the module and needed the
> original "female to female" adaptor to connect to the "male" connectors on
> the distributor. I managed to get the module for about £25.The engine is
> 1.4 CVH, red top distributor.
>
>  Cheers
>  Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, 24 January 2019 22:22:54 UTC, Susan and Martin Scott wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the ideas keep them coming please! I need to resolve this
>> (as it's a pain to drive when it happens). Strangely on last year's trip to
>> Stoneleigh it was ok for the first 45 minutes when most of the time stuck
>> at 10mph in (unusually heavy for Norwich) traffic with the temp gauge
>> hovering near red - it was only once I was moving faster (and temp gauge
>> dropped) that it gave the issue. It doesn't seem to have any set pattern,
>> other than on the way to Stoneleigh, but not on the way home!
>> Martin Scott
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group
>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2019 8:07 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> If you still have the large 'pancake' filter, it could be vapour lock on
>> the fuel line as it is quite a nice little heat trap.  I have changed to an
>> K filter, but I also wrapped the rubber hose in alumunium tape which
>> seemed to help.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> James T
>> Q2-002
>> www.bostin.photography
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

[kynastonp .]

I am seeing this jim

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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Jim Hearne 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:06:30 AM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

There wasn't a MK2 fiesta part with electric windows, these are Mk3 parts 
incorrectly listed.

I've posted several replies to this thread via email but none of them make it 
to the group.
Anybody else getting this ?

This reply i've done on the web site.

Jim


On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:01:52 AM UTC+1, paulk wrote:
I built saloon 103 and the method used was to bend the bottom inch or so of the 
rail towards the center of the car ,but this meant the cable rubbed on the 
bottom of the rail and eventually wore through and jammed. On 2+2 q2129 the 
rivet holding the nylon part of the rail was removed the piece moved up and 
bolted onto the rail ,a metal slotted spacer was then placed inline with the 
cable outer. It is interesting that you found a fiesta MK2 window mechanism as 
I worked for ford at the time of the MK2 and never saw one with electric 
windows.

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, 10:18 Derek Clews, 
mailto:derekcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
HI Steve,

I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?

ATB

Derek


On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Derek,
I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the QSC 
recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special tools, so 
welding parts wouldn't have been expected.

I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.

Regards,
Steve
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On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews 
mailto:derekcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear All,

To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal rail.  
It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and fit the 
socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm shortening to fit 
the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting.

As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm by 
being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground to 
shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the usual 
way when built?

I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut one end 
shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.

ATB

Derek

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

[kynastonp]

I built saloon 103 and the method used was to bend the bottom inch or so of
the rail towards the center of the car ,but this meant the cable rubbed on
the bottom of the rail and eventually wore through and jammed. On 2+2 q2129
the rivet holding the nylon part of the rail was removed the piece moved up
and bolted onto the rail ,a metal slotted spacer was then placed inline
with the cable outer. It is interesting that you found a fiesta MK2 window
mechanism as I worked for ford at the time of the MK2 and never saw one
with electric windows.

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, 10:18 Derek Clews,  wrote:

> HI Steve,
>
> I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?
>
> ATB
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Derek,
> I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the
> QSC recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special
> tools, so welding parts wouldn't have been expected.
>
> I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
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>
> On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews  wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
>> 
>>
>> This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal
>> rail.  It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and
>> fit the socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm
>> shortening to fit the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting.
>>
>> As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm
>> by being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground
>> to shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the
>> usual way when built?
>>
>> I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut
>> one end shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.
>>
>> ATB
>>
>> Derek
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

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5.5 and 6 are the width of the wheel  J is the code for the shape of the cross 
section of the wheel rim , when you take the tyre off there is a wide channel 
round the wheel to make fitting the tire easier j tells you the shape .

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

Grateful for the comments left, I forgot to say that the rims are 13" diameter 
currently fitted with 165x70x13 tyres (not one of which is the same as the 
others).

I've been looking at WheelBase for alternatives.  Not sure what 5.5J and 6J 
means but if I do replace the wheels I think it will be with 14" rims and 
185x55x14 tyres, they should fit within the wheel arches and not foul 
suspension struts or body.

Thanks for your help!
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Hood

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On the rear bulkhead/seat back there should be two rubber bands that you hook 
onto the front hood catches

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Hood




Hi

Looking to get advice as to folding down convertible hood as can't find any 
info in the build manual for this. When I fold mine down on the 2+2 the part 
that has the front lock fastenings just flaps around. How is this kept in place 
when hood is down?

Many thanks
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 boot hinge covers/caps removal

[kynastonp]

Insert a prying tool under the rear edge and twist gently ,put something on the 
gelcoat to protect it ,and lever the cover up and forward




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Need to remove boot hinge cover caps , don't want to snap one so anyone know 
which way they come off ? Appear to have side & back clips.
Thanks
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Fatter tyres??

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I know that the track on the front of the xr2 is wider and part of that is
the thickness of the centre of the disk, what is the difference between the
non xr2 drums and xr2 drums .Do the xr2 drums have a thicker centre than
the others to allow wider wheels

On 20 Apr 2017 9:18 p.m., "Susan and Martin Scott" <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks for that Jim. So mine are 5.5" rims with inset 43.5mm. It's the
> tyre size which is critical (less so the rim width). So in theory your
> inset compared with mine means it's 43.5 - 35 = 8.5mm better per side, less
> 5mm for half of the 195-185mm tyre width, so your tyres have 3.5mm
> clearance more than mine. That seems about right, because if my RH tyre had
> 3.5mm more clearance it's unlikely to have scraped the damper plastic
> shield. I think my best bet (apart from getting new wheels) is to build a
> 'sleeve' of gaffer tape around the LH damper shield to get an idea of how
> far the axle moves in extremis so I can determine how far to adjust the PRod
> Martin
> - Original Message - From: "Jim Hearne" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fatter tyres??
>
>
> Sorry, mine are 6.5" x 15", just found an email where i had to buy a
> spare one after a track day.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 20/04/2017 10:41, Jim Hearne wrote:
>
>> I think they are 6", ET35 (standard Mk1/2 Fiesta offset) , will have to
>> double check the width next time i'm at my parents.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Susan and Martin Scott
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:23 AM
>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fatter tyres??
>>
>> Yep, as you say just drop one end to adjust (not a real issue, as should
>> rarely need to adjust). What width wheels/offset do you have?
>> Martin
>> - Original Message - From: "Jim Hearne" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fatter tyres??
>>
>>
>> No, just cut a panard rod in half, shortened it a bit, welded a threaded
>> boss into one end and a stud (probably cut from a 12.9 bolt) into a boss
>> into the other end.
>> And a locknut on the thread.
>> Thread was M12 i think, but there should be no bending force on the
>> adjuster, just stretch or compression when cornering.
>>
>> You need to unbolt one end and drop it down to adjust but i think i've
>> only
>> adjusted it twice.
>>
>> Mine has 195/45-15 tyres but they've never rubbed on the shock covers.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Susan and Martin Scott
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:19 AM
>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fatter tyres??
>>
>> Did you make an adjusted with both a RH & LH thread? I am considering it,
>> but don't have enough equipment. The adjustable ones I've seen advertised
>> look to be a reasonable price, so if I go that route I'll just have to
>> find
>> what diameter they are.
>> What I really need is wheels with less inset - I'm working on it!
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Jim Hearne" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fatter tyres??
>>
>>
>> I made an adjustable panard rod for my 2+2 to centralise the rear wheels.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Susan and Martin Scott
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:30 PM
>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Fw: [Quantum Owners] Fatter tyres??
>>
>> Hello Rolf,
>> I wonder how close the  195/45/15 are to the trailing links? Unless the
>> trailing links are closer together on the 2+2 (unlikely as the bushes
>> would
>> be misaligned) they are closer to the trailing arms than 185 (unless the
>> tyre shape is a factor). I appreciate the damper mountings at the top
>> could
>> be closer together for 2+2 than saloon? thus giving more clearance. Do you
>> know what offset the wheels are in each case.
>> Martin
>> ps - will you be at stoneleigh?
>> - Original Message - From: "Rolf" 
>> To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fw: [Quantum Owners] Fatter tyres??
>>
>>
>> Hi, have the same problem on 2+2. Found indeed the axle was not centered
>> under normal load.
>> When jacking the car to find out why the anti rolbar moved off-side, it
>> occured to me that the axle was right in the middle.
>> Thats why under load it moves approximately 10mm, thus causing the tyre to
>> grinding the shock dustcover.
>> I moved the hole in the panhardrodbracket 10 mm, now under normal
>> conditions, the axle is centered.
>> Now see if the antirolbar also stays centered.
>>
>> Normally The 2+2 runs on 185-60-14 , now temporary on 195-45-15.
>> The 14" run much smoother 

Re: Fw: [Quantum Owners] Fatter tyres??

[kynastonp]

When i built my saloon i noticed several cars with the wheels offset so i built 
the suspension without springs and got the wheels at the correct ride height 
then drilled the panhard rod mount. Which panhard rod have you got, tubular or 
u section ,i have seen many of them bent especially u section ones ,very often 
the bend is from someone jacking the car on the rod 




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- Original Message - 
From: Susan and Martin 
Scott 
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 4:47 PM
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fatter tyres??


I'm hoping someone can shed some light 
Giving the Q saloon a once-over prior to Stoneleigh, and I noticed the rear 
offside tyre has scraped the plastic sleeve on the damper. I didn't have the 
problem with the previous tyres which were the same size (185/55x14) The wheels 
are as before (43.5 inset). I can only think the tyre shape 
(Dunlop) is a bit different to the previous tyres (Firestone) - the new 
ones do measure 185mm across. I've also tried switching wheels to different 
corners just n case of some crazy offset difference in 
manufacture.  Measuring the clearance to the rear trailing arms 
is 5mm on the offside and 20mm on the nearside, so far from ideal. The only 
ways I can see of changing this are 1) different tyres, but a lottery as to 
result.  2) spacers (I have an aversion to them, as do insurance. 3) change 
the wheels (maybe Peugeot for less inset?) or 4) Fit an adjustable panhard rod 
to attempt to "even it up" which may give a problem on the nearside.  As 
far as I can see it the close clearance in itself is an issue, not helped by 
the 
poor design (panhard rod) which moves the axle laterally when the 
suspension compresses. With the car on level ground the panhard rod is 
horizontal, so any movement (up or down) will have the effect of moving the 
axle/RH wheel to the offside of the car, thus improving the current situation, 
but clearly bush compliance/stack up of movement has caused the tyre to touch 
the plastic shield.
Has anyone else got a clearance issue on rear tyres 
on a saloon?  Edited to add... 
OR INDEED A 2+2, since the rear axle is the 
same


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Fw: Complete Kit Car news – Stoneleigh seminars are back

[kynastonp .]

edd
slight hijack but your mention of the company car reminded me ,this is the
wheel control system I mentioned
http://blinkstop.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/category=59

On 4 April 2017 at 08:27, 'Mark Alford' via Quantum Owners Group <
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> Luke and I will be there, looking forward to the get together... Sharing
> experiences...
> Cheers
> Mark
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Chassis / Build date.

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Is the number about 17 digits long? At one point the local DVLA offices 
randomly did not accept the Q numbers because they were too short and would 
make up a number to the standard format 




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Trying to establish age of my car however on checking for chassis no. I don't 
see a plate or stamp on chassis with a 'Q' number on it, mine ends J2055 
9stamped on bulkhead & fixed din. type plate on frame), does that mean 55 
chassis number ?
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 distributor

[kynastonp .]

Is there a matchbox sized black box on the side of the distributor held on
with 2 screws/ bolts and a 3 wire connector ,try changing that known as
ignition module/ amplifier.

On 25 Mar 2017 11:02 a.m., "QM editor"  wrote:

> My 2+2 has a 1.6 CVH engine from an XR2. Intermittently it will stop and
> usually start again running normally. A bit annoying! I've been told by a
> Ford trained mechanic that the distributor in the Fiesta was unreliable and
> there were many failures even in cars less than three years old. Does
> anyone know of this? From one website I discovered that the correct
> distributor is a Bosch type 0 237 521 019 but I can't find one of those.
> The Haines manual says Bosch or Lucas but gives no part number.. Nearest I
> found was type 0 237 601 001, Ford part number 84SF 12100 FA.
>
> Has anyone had a distributor problem with this engine, and what type did
> they use to replace it? It might be that the two types I've mentioned are
> effectively identical or there might be sufficient difference that while
> the one I can find will physically fit it won't work properly or even at
> all! Advice please so I can get going again!
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> Many thanks, Mike
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 radiator expansion tank

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I used one off a mk1 Sierra it mounts on the inner wheel arch and is shaped 
round the strut ,mine also had the low coolant level sensor .Several on eBay 
but needs to be mk1.




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Hi
Need to replace the radiator expansion tank on our 1.6 CVH 2+2. Anyone got one 
lying around in their garage??
If not have seen one on a well-known internet auction site when searched for 
1988 Fiesta, link below. Any reason why that would not be suitable??
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/NEW-BIRTH-COOLANT-EXPANSION-TANK-RESERVOIR-HEADER-OE-QUALITY-8188/252300796144
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Radio options?

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Blaupunkt used to make a single din satnav ,fitted in vwaudiskodaseat cars
,don't know if they are still available.

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> Of course you could fancy and fabricate something to fit a double
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Museum 2+2 in Complete Kit Car Magazine

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Is that a Midas gold next to it?

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> In the latest Complete Kit Car.. The Musee Automobile in Rheims
> has a 2+2 as reported by Hans Defauwes.
> Please see attached scan of page.
> Martin Scott
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Anyone use a manual choke? 2+2 question...

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If you are using a mk2 dash then you may only find a blanking panel ,the
choke cable mount was only fitted to some cars.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Member Query 2+2 Seals

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My memory says they were supplied with the kit from quantum and were super
glued in place.somewhere like woolies should be able to supply.
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> I've received the query below, anyone able to assist?
>
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> Hello steve my name is lewis and i am a member of the QOC. I have a bit of
> an odd question but could you confirm which outer scraper seal is used on
> the 2+2 doors. The OSF one is missing on a car i just purchased and i am
> guessing its just the mk2 fiesta one that used but cant confirm as i dont
> have one to compare to. By scraper seal i mean the outer weather strip
> thats fixed to the top of the door and seals against the window. Thanks
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[Quantum Owners] Quantum owners magazines

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I have been having a clear out and have found several piles of QOC
magazines numbers 4-48. 50-69,72/73 75-85.if anyone wants them they are
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Re: [Quantum Owners] The ultimate fully electric 2+2

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I modified an early fiesta one to fit in a 2+2 boot lid ,I may still have a
photo.Where are you getting the vacuum for the servo from?
On 31 Jan 2016 3:53 am, "Anthony Johnson"  wrote:

> My conversion of a 2+2 with Mk4 dash is well underway now with the help of
> the kids at my school!  Everything has been stripped back, modified
> subframe for electric motor/batteries has been galvanised, all suspension
> components sandblasted and repainted and about to start putting it all back
> together after bodyshell painted. I will be fitting electric GM power
> steering, using petrol tank space for suspended space saver spare wheel,
> ceramic heater in place of heater exchanger from engine, and the batteries
> will be divided between the space behind the back seat as well as above
> gearbox/motor.
> *I write here to ask members for ideas/experience for how to soup it up to
> be the ultimate electric 2+2.*  Ideas and help on the following as well
> as things I haven't thought of would be appreciated:
>
>- I'd like heated front seats (as no warm engine!). Any ideas on
>heated production/sporty seats that fit nicely in the 2+2 or will I have to
>retrofit heater elements in XR2 seats? Or even heated electric adjustment
>seats?
>- Has anyone found easy way to do electric boot release or is it just
>a case of engineering/fitting a solenoid?
>- Can brake servo be fitted directly to back of brake pedal box as
>there is space now with no engine (the angles on the bar are not quite
>identical hence the question).
>- Has anyone got advice or quality bits for sale that can help me
>build the ultimate fully electric 2+2?
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Rear Screen heater Saloon

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Using your figures and V/R shows a current of 0.01 of an Amp ,and power of
0.14 Watt .seems a bit low to me so maybe one of your contacts is poor and
high resistance.
On 16 Jan 2016 6:36 pm, "Derek Clews"  wrote:

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>
> Just thinking out aloud about the saloon Rear Screen heater.  Mine has
> voltage at the connectors and resistance of 1.4 K Ohms across the screen.
> But it does not seem to de-mist at all.  I thought one connector was
> damaged and repaired it.  Is it possible that a repair can ‘connect’ and
> test OK but not ‘CONNECT’ and carry current?  Thoughts anyone.
>
> In general the pattern of de-mister conductors is designed for a hatch
> tailgate with a section for the rear wiper and large areas you want in the
> saloon are uncovered.  I was thinking of an alternative anyway.  How about
> an aftermarket adhesive old style heater for the screen?  I have fitted one
> in the dim and distant past and it did work.  Not very subtle though.
> Possibly electric fan heaters fitted blowing up the screen as a solution?
> Any experiences/ideas anyone?
>
> Derek
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum - Registration Details Question

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Ryan
If the car is registered as an XR2 then it is not correctly registered as a
quantum and changing this may involve an inspection by vosa called an iva.
This going to be difficult to pass as the quantum is an old design .You
need to check the registration document thoroughly and be sure.
Driving it wrongly registered is not a good idea.
Sorry to be negative but you could end up with a car you can not use.
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> Hello all,
>
> This is my first time getting in touch with the owners club, so I hope I'm
> asking in the right place!
>
> I would just like to quickly introduce myself. My name is Ryan and I am 18
> years old, ever since a young age I have been very fond of MK1/2 fiestas in
> particular but have always found the insurance premiums to be way out of
> reach as a young person.
> After discovering a few posts from owners of these cars, I found that the
> Quantum could be the perfect alternative - something that would be fun to
> drive, but cheap and easy to maintain; not to mention the much more
> attractive styling :-)
>
> After much searching, I had the opportunity to view a saloon model this
> afternoon, and have to say that I was very impressed with the car overall.
>
> I hope that someone will be able to help with the query I have: as the car
> is currently registered as a Fiesta XR2 (which I assume was originally the
> donor vehicle), I would like to know whether this would affect getting an
> insurance policy through the owners club, because it is currently
> registered as a Ford. I understand that there is a special policy available
> to younger drivers, offered by certain insurers in connection with the
> club. Also, the car no longer has a 1.6 engine fitted, so is correctly
> registered with the engine it currently has (a 1.1 litre ohv).
>
> Any help with this would be most appreciated, and I look forward to
> hearing your thoughts.
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> Kind regards,
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric Window Goes Down But Not Up

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If it is wired as quantum suggested I would look at the switch or the wires
to the switch.
On 8 Dec 2015 19:41, "SMIDG3T"  wrote:

> The subject says it all.
>
> It's a 2+2 model. Nothing can be heard at all when pressing the button.
> Strange how it'll go down but not up.
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RE: [Quantum Owners] 2 + 2 electric window switches

[kynastonp .]

I have several of those switches in the garage if I can find them ,they are
used but still functional
On 12 Oct 2015 8:25 am,  wrote:

> Glyn,
> If my fading memory serves me right I think the switches were BMW E30, as
> regards your login for the website you need to contact the webmaster, if
> you look in a
> recent owner's club mag there will be an email address in there.
>
> If the switch information is wrong I'm sure Jim will have the answer.
>
> Kind regards, Russell
>
>
> > Message Received: Oct 12 2015, 06:20 AM
> > From: "Glyn Scoltock"
> > To: "Quantum Owners Group"
> > Cc:
> > Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2 + 2 electric window switches
> >
> > Hello everyone
> >
> > I am back looking for some more bits; this time the electric window
> > switches for my 2 + 2, Kitty Q2 - 098 . I found that the left hand one
> had
> > stuck down in the up position , while at the same time the right side
> > switch did nothing at all. Neither does the left one allow the window to
> be
> > lowered (phew). Put simply all is dead and unresponsive. Luckily they are
> > both stuck in the up position so Kitty is still usable.
> > Maybe I am becoming cynical but I am expecting the garage who are
> handling
> > this for me to say that they cannot lay their hands on new switches to
> > replace them if they do not find a simple solution.
> > Does anyone have a source or a part number I can use at Fords or had a
> > similar experience? I would be pleased to hear any advice .
> > By the by, how do I get onto the club website? I cannot recall the
> > password. Is there somebody I should be contacting who will fill me in?
> > Hope that you have some wisdom for me on these matters as you have been
> > very helpful in the past.
> >
> > *ALL THE BEST*
> >
> > *Glyn Scoltock*
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Mirrors on 2+2

[kynastonp .]

Quantum supplied the mirrors new with the kit usually black ,but we had a
white car and white mirrors ,chassis number on ours was around 100 so early.
On 15 Sep 2015 2:24 pm, "Jim Hearne"  wrote:

> The Mazda ones weren't exactly common when the 2+2 was current.
> I think they were only fitted to the 323F not the normal 323.
>
> As Russell said, many others have been fitted, it's just a question of
> figureing out how to mount them on the corner of the door.
> Or using lots of Sikaflex 221 (a Polyurethane adhesive favoured by
> Quantum) to glue them on.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -Original Message- From: russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:11 PM
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mirrors on 2+2
>
> I agree with Jim, but there have been others fitted in the past. I think
> that the 323F ones may be becoming a bit rare now.
>
> Russell
>
>
> Message Received: Sep 15 2015, 02:06 PM
>> From: "Jim Hearne"
>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Mirrors on 2+2
>>
>> No, i think they were either Metro for manual mirrors or Mazda 323F for
>> electric mirrors.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: SMIDG3T
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 9:56 AM
>> To: Quantum Owners Group
>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Mirrors on 2+2
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> The mirrors on a 2+2, they are from a MK2 fiesta right?
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Mirrors on 2+2

[kynastonp .]

Most quantum's used Mazda 323? Electric mirrors
On 15 Sep 2015 2:05 pm, "SMIDG3T"  wrote:

> Hi.
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> The mirrors on a 2+2, they are from a MK2 fiesta right?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] MANY THANKS !

[kynastonp .]

I worked for ford in 79-80 in parts and dealers were told to clear out
parts for models over a certain age. A lot of parts were sold to a company
called NEWFORD parts  ,who still exist .
On 1 Sep 2015 8:37 pm, "Susan and Martin Scott" <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> Pleased you managed to get them - I have a belief that a lot of these old
> "unobtainable" parts are stored somewhere. I've heard of a few
> stories where the parts are not available to buy, but "if you leave it with
> us we'll fix it for £"  Sounds very suspicious (but maybe I'm getting
> even more cynical?)
> Martin
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Glyn Scoltock 
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:51 PM
> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] MANY THANKS !
>
> Hello everyone
>
> I am back again after being dragged away kicking and screaming to go on
> holiday by the memsahib. Just as well too, as I would never go anywhere
> new. Especially nice to come back to my 2+2 , Kitty(0-98) which is now a
> runner.
> May I begin by thanking you all for the magnificent help from everyone I
> got in finding the rear antiroll bar bush clamps that I needed. I was able
> to obtain a pair from Ford parts UK when I quoted the finis number you
> supplied me with. Some of the information went back fifteen years, which
> demonstrates the depth of knowledge in the owners club. We need to have no
> worries of the continuation the marque with this kind of commitment.
> Enough effusive praise for now before I get accused of bringing home a
> continental emotional attitude.
> So perhaps the concerns about spare part availability need not be so
> serious. The chief problem seems to me to be the time it takes to track
> down bits and obtain them.
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> ALL THE BEST
>
> *Glyn Scoltock*
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum 2+2 Front Indicators - What Car?

[kynastonp .]

Austin metro,the one with the a series engine.
On 29 Aug 2015 22:04, SMIDG3T chris.j.brigh...@gmail.com wrote:

 The front indicators on the 2+2, what car do they originate from? Mine are
 in bad condition.

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Rear Anti - roll bar bush bracket.

[kynastonp .]

Early cars used a modified fiesta one with an extra bolt hole welded on
,the later cars used an escort turbo ? One as this had two bolt holes and
saved quantum the welding work
On 6 Aug 2015 8:25 am, Glyn Scoltock glynscolt...@sky.com wrote:

 Hello everyone

 I am back asking for advice once more.
 My 2+2 Kitty (Q2-098) is at the garage for its MoT waiting for me to
 locate a couple of bushes and the brackets to attach them to the car. These
 are for the rear anti-roll bar , the existing ones being too corroded to
 use.
 By the way ,what size are the actual bushes? Looking at a number of
 websites they are offered for the Fiesta Mk2 in a variety of different
 sizes. However no sign of the fitting brackets , should I be looking for
 flanges or something?
 Well ,if anyone has any idea where I can get them I would be relieved
 and delighted to hear.

 ALL THE BEST

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Re: [Quantum Owners] brushes for rear wiper motor?

[kynastonp .]

84FG17K 41A1A IS A FORD PART NO
0 390 211 704 is a bosch part number for a rear wiper motor

there is information here but no part spares
https://partsdb.info/autopart/bosch/0390211704

On 18 July 2015 at 19:02, Hans Defauwes hansdefau...@hetnet.nl wrote:


  Any idea where I can get a new set of contact brushes for the rear
 window motor – in use for the light flaps

 or who made them.
 Bosch?

 Numbers on the back of the motor
 84FG17K 41A1A
 58 HBO 12V
 0390 211 704

 Hans


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum 2+2 being broken :(

[kynastonp .]

The split driveshafts were fitted to mk2 fiestas 1.1 and 1.4 but were a
small diameter so may not be suitable for large power output.
On 18 Jun 2015 10:09, Hans Defauwes hansdefau...@hetnet.nl wrote:

   Niel,

 The thorque problem can be solved by using the Fiesta 3 piece drive shaft
 axles
 Fiesta MK1 sprint if I am correct.
 The long drivesaft that causes the torque problems is divided in 2
 shafts!! so that the left and right driveshafts are the same length – with
 a  support bearing in the middle that is bolted to the CVH
 In order to fit it to your Fiat engine you need to make a bracket . .  of
 some kind.

 Hard to find but they are available  ( I have only one)

 Hans



  *From:* barnacle nailed.barna...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:08 PM
 *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Quantum 2+2 being broken :(

  And you have no idea how much that hurts...

 Some of you will know my Fiat Coupe five cylinder turbo powered 2+2.
 Unfortunately, even after four years or so of development, it has not been
 possible to cure a vicious but unpredictable torque effect which, at high
 power, has a tendency to launch the car at the ditch. The time has come  to
 draw a line under it and concentrate on the rolling (and expensive!)
 restoration of my Fiat Coupe instead. Because of the potentially lethal
 handling effect, I am not selling the car complete.

 Instead, I'm removing the Fiat engine and gearbox and offering either a
 rolling chassis, or, if there's no interest in that, then the various
 parts. All suspension and moving parts have under six thousand miles on
 them.

 So here's the list:

 Rolling chassis, sans engine, gearbox, driveshafts, ECU, and suchlike

 4 x Team Dynamic Monza wheels with Toyo T1-R tyres: two new (fitted a
 fortnight ago) and two with better than 5mm tread: 185/60R15 (from memory)
 - the wheels are quite a low offset so will stick out a tiny bit on a
 Quantum
 1 x Ford Pepperpot allow 13 with frankly rubbish tyre (the spare)
 2 x front XR2 shock absorbers
 2 x rear XR2 shock absorbers
 1 x rear axle, swing arms, etc
 2 x brake calipers: V6 Mondeo (need a 15 wheel to clear)
 2 x doors with drop glass and powered winders
 2 x leather seats, I believe from Audi TT
 1 x steel fuel tank with internal swirl pot and external high pressure
 pump and filter
 1 x Fiat Coupe hydraulic powered steering rack with Fiesta track rods
 1 x hard top and rear glass
 1 x soft top, really only good for a pattern, but with the irons
 1 x stainless steel exhaust, will need the front changing to mate with
 Ford engines
 1 x boot with lock and gas ram lifters
 1 x bonnet, modified to fit around a larger radiator but usable as is.

 No doubt some other sundry parts... note that the engine frame has been
 *severely* modified to accommodate the Fiat engine and the suspension
 points have been moved. Ideally you'd want to rebuild this, or drop a new
 one on. The front bulkhead has had a small (2 by 6) hole cut to fit the
 Fiat pedal box and brake servo; easily fixed with a plate.

 As it stands, the car is road legal with an MOT from a fortnight ago. I'll
 be dropping the engine and gearbox out next weekend (27th). The car is at
 FCSS in Upton upon Severn (just off the M5 near Tewkesbury) so will need
 collecting from there.

 If anyone's interested in anything, make me an offer. If not, the wheels
 will go on eBay and the rest will go to the scrappy.

 Neil
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Re: [Quantum Owners] help with parts and contact

[kynastonp .]

Re your fuse blowing ,check for movement of the engine/drivetrain/axle as
this may be causing a short,I have also had a wrongly  wired fuel pump
cause a fuse to blow .live had been wired to the case,earth to spade .fine
till the pump moved in its rubber mounting and shorted case to earth.
On 16 Jun 2015 13:23, ricky deacon deac...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I am after some help with parts. My Xtreme failed MOT yesterday due to
 perished anti Roll bar drop links on the rear. I have no idea what vehicle
 these are from. Would anyone be able to help.

 I have also just found an issue during acceleration. When accelerating
 heavily the ignition fuse blows (cutting fuel pump) I cant find any obvious
 rason for this.

 Also, getting in contact with anyone from Quantum appears to be
 impossible. Does anyone have a contact number for them that works?

 Thanks for any support

 Ricky

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk1 front quarter lights

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I thought the side rear glass was from a mk1 fiesta on the saloons
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 Hi George
 Front quarters come from a passat i think. The rears come from a mk1
 sirocco but they need to be given to a glass company to get the rear corner
 rounded off so they will fit the body.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Headlight covers

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Early cars had brass hinges fiberglassed onto them and onto the body
On 13 Aug 2014 17:29, Jim T jim.tur...@talktalk.net wrote:

 Thanks for all the advice. The build manual says that the covers are fixed
 with double sided tape but the flange on the bonnet seems too narrow to
 give a reliable fix.I think I shall use a combination of tape  brackets
 with screws.

 On Thursday, 7 August 2014 16:28:31 UTC+1, Jim T wrote:

 Hi. Any suggestions for glue to fix the headlight covers on an H4? Should
 be strong, flexible, quick setting  preferably clear, black, or yellow.
 Any advice appreciated.
 Jimt

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Re: [Quantum Owners] dynamic Mouldings is on the move.

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Good luck Eddie. will have to come over when you are a little quieter
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 Hi All

 It is with great pleasure to inform you all, that due to the amount of
 work that has now stacked up, I have just today, taken the keys to a new
 business unit.
 The new address is :-
 Far End Yard
 Mayshill,
 Frampton Cotterell,
 Bristol
 BS36 2NS
 I will keep the same number 07957 601 677

 Eddie

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