[Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a replacement. Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the clutch. If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a replacement for the following? The friction plate is marked Motorcraft 90 AB 7550 CA LOW LIFT LUK Thanks in advance Chris Fairlie Q2-001 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/007301d92d9f%24ead61950%24c0824bf0%24%40btinternet.com.
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
Tbh I would have got a new cover and plate . There are plenty of options on the likes of eBay, including some luk branded ones. A bit like getting new discs and fitting new pads to match the wear , so the flywheel . The old clutch disc will have worn to the old flywheel surface wear pattern and likely isn't biting all over now. On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, 13:54 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group, < quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch > cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I > kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I > couldn’t find a replacement. > > Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace > the clutch. > > If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a > replacement for the following? > > The friction plate is marked > > Motorcraft > 90 AB 7550 CA > LOW LIFT > LUK > > Thanks in advance > > Chris Fairlie > Q2-001 > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/007301d92d9f%24ead61950%24c0824bf0%24%40btinternet.com > . > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/CABxHo%2Bzsau-cZ%3DMnvdU6XpqQoTO-Vqk340xFmn8Fd_5Nw8BbcQ%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊 Martin Scott Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a replacement. Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the clutch. If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a replacement for the following? The friction plate is marked Motorcraft 90 AB 7550 CA LOW LIFT LUK Thanks in advance Chris Fairlie Q2-001 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/007301d92d9f%24ead61950%24c0824bf0%24%40btinternet.com. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/63cc1f93.050a0220.dcc29.4c03SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
Thanks Martin and Darren I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a compatible substitute. I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong. Chris From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of susanandmartin Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊 Martin Scott Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a replacement. Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the clutch. If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a replacement for the following? The friction plate is marked Motorcraft 90 AB 7550 CA LOW LIFT LUK Thanks in advance Chris Fairlie Q2-001 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/007301d92d9f%24ead61950%24c0824bf0%24%40btinternet.com. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message becau
RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow. From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Thanks Martin and Darren I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a compatible substitute. I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong. Chris From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of susanandmartin Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊 Martin Scott Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a replacement. Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the clutch. If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a replacement for the following? The friction plate is marked Motorcraft 90 AB 7550 CA LOW LIFT LUK Thanks in advance Chris Fairlie Q2-001 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/007301d92d9f%24ead61950%24c0824bf0%24%40btinternet.com. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
Doesn't help with the juddering problem, which, as was mentioned earlier, is just new cover/old plate and may improve with use, but my early 2+2 (Q2009) had the same problem with not enough movement on the clutch. Modifying the plastic clutch quadrant at the pedal helped but later I found a standard Ford clutch quadrant that did the job. Here's the details: 55mm Granada Mk2 / Escort Mk3 (81-86) Ford P/N: 78GB7L583AC With this a standard friction plate will work and you won't need the low lift one. Regards Dave English On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 08:42:57 UTC Chris Fairlie wrote: > Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow. > > > > *From:* 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group [mailto: > quantu...@googlegroups.com] > *Sent:* 22 January 2023 08:42 > *To:* quantu...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue > > > > Thanks Martin and Darren > > > > I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when > I first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit > point off the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is > different from production cars and was originally fitted with a customer > made clutch cable. > > > > Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who > can assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a > compatible substitute. > > > > I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but > they were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were > wrong. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > *From:* quantu...@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *susanandmartin > *Sent:* 21 January 2023 17:24 > *To:* quantu...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue > > > > Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much > older part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I > wouldn’t expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part > number. I think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in > Complete Kitcar magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits > for Fords, as well as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first > class – last week they delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very > well package with 2 planks of wood to prevent damage during the journey – > these were ideal for placing the cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊 > > Martin Scott > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group > *Sent: *21 January 2023 13:54 > *To: *quantu...@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *[Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue > > > > > > I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch > cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I > kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I > couldn’t find a replacement. > > > > Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace > the clutch. > > > > If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a > replacement for the following? > > > > The friction plate is marked > > > > Motorcraft > > 90 AB 7550 CA > > LOW LIFT > > LUK > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Chris Fairlie > > Q2-001 > > > > -- > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > > To post to this group, send email to quantu...@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowner...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > &quo
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
Remember the clutch cover and the clutch release bearing need to me matched, either low lift or normal, you can’t use a low lift cover plate with a normal release bearing or visa versa. Used as a pair they should be interchangeable. Jim From: Dave English Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 9:41 AM To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Doesn't help with the juddering problem, which, as was mentioned earlier, is just new cover/old plate and may improve with use, but my early 2+2 (Q2009) had the same problem with not enough movement on the clutch. Modifying the plastic clutch quadrant at the pedal helped but later I found a standard Ford clutch quadrant that did the job. Here's the details: 55mm Granada Mk2 / Escort Mk3 (81-86) Ford P/N: 78GB7L583AC With this a standard friction plate will work and you won't need the low lift one. Regards Dave English On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 08:42:57 UTC Chris Fairlie wrote: Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow. From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group [mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com] Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42 To: quantu...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Thanks Martin and Darren I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a compatible substitute. I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong. Chris From: quantu...@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of susanandmartin Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24 To: quantu...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊 Martin Scott Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54 To: quantu...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a replacement. Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the clutch. If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a replacement for the following? The friction plate is marked Motorcraft 90 AB 7550 CA LOW LIFT LUK Thanks in advance Chris Fairlie Q2-001 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantu...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowner...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowner...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/007301d92d9f%24ead61950%24c0824bf0%24%40btinternet.com. -- -- You received this message
RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
Hi Chris, I was going to suggest the clutch release can be improved, as Dave has said it won’t help the judder. There is a manual pedal which replaced the automatic adjustment (same as Fiesta) previously used on the Escort – I don’t know if Ford also carried it onto the Fiesta, but there was clearly a problem with the Escort. Anyway, the pedal is a direct replacement for the one on the Fiesta, and can be used with the 55mm quadrant you may already have, although the quadrant has to be modified. It has a manual adjustment, so not relying on the unreliable? Ratchet. I have the parts and will have a go at fitting them on my saloon, as the clutch cable movement sometimes works ok but clearly isn’t always holding the correct length. Martin Scott Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jim Hearne Sent: 22 January 2023 10:03 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Remember the clutch cover and the clutch release bearing need to me matched, either low lift or normal, you can’t use a low lift cover plate with a normal release bearing or visa versa. Used as a pair they should be interchangeable. Jim From: Dave English Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 9:41 AM To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Doesn't help with the juddering problem, which, as was mentioned earlier, is just new cover/old plate and may improve with use, but my early 2+2 (Q2009) had the same problem with not enough movement on the clutch. Modifying the plastic clutch quadrant at the pedal helped but later I found a standard Ford clutch quadrant that did the job. Here's the details: 55mm Granada Mk2 / Escort Mk3 (81-86) Ford P/N: 78GB7L583AC With this a standard friction plate will work and you won't need the low lift one. Regards Dave English On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 08:42:57 UTC Chris Fairlie wrote: Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow. From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group [mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com] Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42 To: quantu...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Thanks Martin and Darren I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a compatible substitute. I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong. Chris From: quantu...@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of susanandmartin Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24 To: quantu...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊 Martin Scott Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54 To: quantu...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a replacement. Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the clutch. If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a replacement for the following? The friction plate is marked Motorcraft 90 AB 7550 CA LOW LIFT LUK Thanks in advance Chris Fairlie Q2-001 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantu...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowner...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or t
RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
Hi Chris, Did you have success with finding a clutch kit? Martin Scott Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow. From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Thanks Martin and Darren I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a compatible substitute. I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong. Chris From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of susanandmartin Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊 Martin Scott Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a replacement. Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the clutch. If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a replacement for the following? The friction plate is marked Motorcraft 90 AB 7550 CA LOW LIFT LUK Thanks in advance Chris Fairlie Q2-001 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/quantumowners/007301d92d9f%24ead61950%24c0824bf0%24%40btinternet.com. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). ---
RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue
Martin Following Jim Hearne’s advice, I decided to fit a new standard clutch I bought 4 years ago. The bite point is a bit lower, so I bought a manual adjust clutch pedal from Burton Power, but now that I have driven it more I have found it driveable so not rushing to fit it. I’m also pleased to report the judder on moving off has gone. Thanks all for your advice Chris From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of susanandmartin Sent: 17 February 2023 09:17 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Hi Chris, Did you have success with finding a clutch kit? Martin Scott Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Sorry forgot to say I will try Burton Power tomorrow. From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] Sent: 22 January 2023 08:42 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Thanks Martin and Darren I know it should be easy to find a clutch for a CVH engine. However, when I first got the car, I spent a lot to time trying to get the clutch bit point off the floor. I have the prototype 2+2 and it turns out it is different from production cars and was originally fitted with a customer made clutch cable. Now that I have a working set up, I am struggling to find a supplier who can assure me they have a direct replacement ‘LOW LIFT’ part rather than a compatible substitute. I tried the local Ford stealer yesterday. They had a few suggestions, but they were special order so I wouldn’t be able to return then if they were wrong. Chris From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of susanandmartin Sent: 21 January 2023 17:24 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue Most of the factors sell LUK clutch kits – I got one for my Rickman (much older part) from Motor Parts Direct – that was over 4 years ago, but I wouldn’t expect a problem getting one, especially as you have the Ford part number. I think it was on the Total Kitcar website (it may have been in Complete Kitcar magazine?) that Burton Power also stock the ‘everyday’ bits for Fords, as well as the unusual/exotic. I’ve Found Burton to be first class – last week they delivered a head gasket set to me, which was very well package with 2 planks of wood to prevent damage during the journey – these were ideal for placing the cylinder head once I’d removed it 😊 Martin Scott Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Sent: 21 January 2023 13:54 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I couldn’t find a replacement. Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace the clutch. If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a replacement for the following? The friction plate is marked Motorcraft 90 AB 7550 CA LOW LIFT LUK Thanks in advance Chris Fairlie Q2-001 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You