Re: [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?

2023-01-23 Thread Darren Siepka
I mix a small amount of gel coat into the chopped strand type filler.
This makes a somewhat easier to sand filler but with proper fiberglass
strength.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, 17:15 flob...@gmail.com,  wrote:

> You were all absolutely correct, it was just filler in the gap. I dug some
> out and i can clearly see the chassis tube painted black with very little
> surface rust.
> Not sure about bridging the gap again with filler.
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:40:17 AM UTC flob...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the encouraging replies. I did think it was at or near the
>> join and that might be the weak point to fail first. I didn't think about
>> filler and it does look it might be filler. I'll try cutting a small
>> section out asap.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 1:50:16 PM UTC Jim Hearne wrote:
>>
>>> As Steve has said, this is where there is a joint between the body and
>>> the floor mouldings.
>>> It is usually covered with a rubber moulding but on your car somebody
>>> has filled and painted it.
>>> The joint can be about 10mm wide, see the attached picture.
>>> The question is why is it cracked and bulging out like that.
>>> The steel sill tube on the chassis is behind there but it’s padded out
>>> with expanding foam.
>>>
>>> It could be rust on the steel tube or it could just be a large lump of
>>> filler not very well stuck to the fibreglass.
>>> Maybe water has got behind it and frozen pushing the water out.
>>>
>>> You are going to have to dig out that cracked lump of filler and see
>>> whats behind it.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* flob...@gmail.com
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:50 AM
>>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
>>> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?
>>>
>>> https://ibb.co/ynK5ZKP
>>> https://ibb.co/nbsn9yv
>>> https://ibb.co/r736Rrq
>>>
>>> Recently I thought it was to time to do something with the H4. Charged
>>> the battery and it started first time after 18 months standing, quick check
>>> over, evicted mouse, cleaned discs and went for MOT. Failed on perished
>>> suspension arm rubber, changed arm MOT passed.
>>> Just needs a service and I can start using it; or so I thought until I
>>> noticed crack in fibreglass below drivers door. Now I believe the H4 is
>>> unsafe and will probably have to be written off. Am I right?
>>> Opinions/suggestions please.
>>> Links at top for pics.
>>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?

2023-01-23 Thread 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group

That is great news.

Maybe contact Rob Hancock at QSC, as he might have some products that 
could be recommended.


Regards,
Steve

On 23/01/2023 17:03, flob...@gmail.com wrote:
You were all absolutely correct, it was just filler in the gap. I dug 
some out and i can clearly see the chassis tube painted black with 
very little surface rust.

Not sure about bridging the gap again with filler.

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:40:17 AM UTC flob...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the encouraging replies. I did think it was at or near
the join and that might be the weak point to fail first. I didn't
think about filler and it does look it might be filler. I'll try
cutting a small section out asap.

On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 1:50:16 PM UTC Jim Hearne wrote:

As Steve has said, this is where there is a joint between the
body and the floor mouldings.
It is usually covered with a rubber moulding but on your car
somebody has filled and painted it.
The joint can be about 10mm wide, see the attached picture.
The question is why is it cracked and bulging out like that.
The steel sill tube on the chassis is behind there but it’s
padded out with expanding foam.
It could be rust on the steel tube or it could just be a large
lump of filler not very well stuck to the fibreglass.
Maybe water has got behind it and frozen pushing the water out.
You are going to have to dig out that cracked lump of filler
and see whats behind it.
Jim
*From:* flob...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:50 AM
*To:* Quantum Owners Group
*Subject:* [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?
https://ibb.co/ynK5ZKP
https://ibb.co/nbsn9yv
https://ibb.co/r736Rrq
Recently I thought it was to time to do something with the H4.
Charged the battery and it started first time after 18 months
standing, quick check over, evicted mouse, cleaned discs and
went for MOT. Failed on perished suspension arm rubber,
changed arm MOT passed.
Just needs a service and I can start using it; or so I thought
until I noticed crack in fibreglass below drivers door. Now I
believe the H4 is unsafe and will probably have to be written
off. Am I right? Opinions/suggestions please.
Links at top for pics.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?

2023-01-23 Thread flob...@gmail.com
You were all absolutely correct, it was just filler in the gap. I dug some 
out and i can clearly see the chassis tube painted black with very little 
surface rust.
Not sure about bridging the gap again with filler.

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:40:17 AM UTC flob...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the encouraging replies. I did think it was at or near the join 
> and that might be the weak point to fail first. I didn't think about filler 
> and it does look it might be filler. I'll try cutting a small section out 
> asap.
>
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 1:50:16 PM UTC Jim Hearne wrote:
>
>> As Steve has said, this is where there is a joint between the body and 
>> the floor mouldings.
>> It is usually covered with a rubber moulding but on your car somebody has 
>> filled and painted it.
>> The joint can be about 10mm wide, see the attached picture.
>> The question is why is it cracked and bulging out like that.
>> The steel sill tube on the chassis is behind there but it’s padded out 
>> with expanding foam.
>>  
>> It could be rust on the steel tube or it could just be a large lump of 
>> filler not very well stuck to the fibreglass.
>> Maybe water has got behind it and frozen pushing the water out.
>>  
>> You are going to have to dig out that cracked lump of filler and see 
>> whats behind it.
>>  
>> Jim
>>  
>>  
>> *From:* flob...@gmail.com 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:50 AM
>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group 
>> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?
>>  
>> https://ibb.co/ynK5ZKP
>> https://ibb.co/nbsn9yv
>> https://ibb.co/r736Rrq
>>  
>> Recently I thought it was to time to do something with the H4. Charged 
>> the battery and it started first time after 18 months standing, quick check 
>> over, evicted mouse, cleaned discs and went for MOT. Failed on perished 
>> suspension arm rubber, changed arm MOT passed.
>> Just needs a service and I can start using it; or so I thought until I 
>> noticed crack in fibreglass below drivers door. Now I believe the H4 is 
>> unsafe and will probably have to be written off. Am I right? 
>> Opinions/suggestions please.
>> Links at top for pics.
>>  
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Re: [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?

2023-01-23 Thread flob...@gmail.com
Thanks for the encouraging replies. I did think it was at or near the join 
and that might be the weak point to fail first. I didn't think about filler 
and it does look it might be filler. I'll try cutting a small section out 
asap.

On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 1:50:16 PM UTC Jim Hearne wrote:

> As Steve has said, this is where there is a joint between the body and the 
> floor mouldings.
> It is usually covered with a rubber moulding but on your car somebody has 
> filled and painted it.
> The joint can be about 10mm wide, see the attached picture.
> The question is why is it cracked and bulging out like that.
> The steel sill tube on the chassis is behind there but it’s padded out 
> with expanding foam.
>  
> It could be rust on the steel tube or it could just be a large lump of 
> filler not very well stuck to the fibreglass.
> Maybe water has got behind it and frozen pushing the water out.
>  
> You are going to have to dig out that cracked lump of filler and see whats 
> behind it.
>  
> Jim
>  
>  
> *From:* flob...@gmail.com 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:50 AM
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group 
> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?
>  
> https://ibb.co/ynK5ZKP
> https://ibb.co/nbsn9yv
> https://ibb.co/r736Rrq
>  
> Recently I thought it was to time to do something with the H4. Charged the 
> battery and it started first time after 18 months standing, quick check 
> over, evicted mouse, cleaned discs and went for MOT. Failed on perished 
> suspension arm rubber, changed arm MOT passed.
> Just needs a service and I can start using it; or so I thought until I 
> noticed crack in fibreglass below drivers door. Now I believe the H4 is 
> unsafe and will probably have to be written off. Am I right? 
> Opinions/suggestions please.
> Links at top for pics.
>  
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Re: [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?

2023-01-22 Thread 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group
You might be jumping the gun here. I think that area is where the two 
halves of the fiber glass body are joined. Most H4s have a rubber strip 
over this join. I only know of a single H4 that had the join smoothed and 
painted over and that was a white car.


I suspect that may be filler cracking rather than anything more serious.

Regards,
Steve

On 22 January 2023 13:09:43 "flob...@gmail.com"  wrote:

https://ibb.co/ynK5ZKP
https://ibb.co/nbsn9yv

https://ibb.co/r736Rrq

Recently I thought it was to time to do something with the H4. Charged the 
battery and it started first time after 18 months standing, quick check 
over, evicted mouse, cleaned discs and went for MOT. Failed on perished 
suspension arm rubber, changed arm MOT passed.
Just needs a service and I can start using it; or so I thought until I 
noticed crack in fibreglass below drivers door. Now I believe the H4 is 
unsafe and will probably have to be written off. Am I right? 
Opinions/suggestions please.

Links at top for pics.


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[Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?

2023-01-22 Thread flob...@gmail.com
https://ibb.co/ynK5ZKP
https://ibb.co/nbsn9yv
https://ibb.co/r736Rrq

Recently I thought it was to time to do something with the H4. Charged the 
battery and it started first time after 18 months standing, quick check 
over, evicted mouse, cleaned discs and went for MOT. Failed on perished 
suspension arm rubber, changed arm MOT passed.
Just needs a service and I can start using it; or so I thought until I 
noticed crack in fibreglass below drivers door. Now I believe the H4 is 
unsafe and will probably have to be written off. Am I right? 
Opinions/suggestions please.
Links at top for pics.

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