[Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes

2012-02-22 Thread MattWilson(Q2-412)
As we're all getting quite enthusiastic about legal issues and MOT
regs etc
Someone at work forwarded the below link to me last week:

http://uk.autoblog.com/2012/01/04/changes-to-mot-rules-in-2012-are-you-ready/

I was wondering how some of this might affect our Quantum's at MOT
time.  (Not sure how much of the article is the usual scare-
mongering).

Some highlights I thought may casue a few issues:
1. Missing, or split/damaged dust covers on steering and suspension
ball-joints will result in failure if they will allow dirt to enter
the joint. maybe that's always been the case and is good practice to
sort ASAP anyway but a pain if time is short in the run-up to your
MOT.

2. They've essentially closed the door on after-market HID (GOOD!).
So if you've got them, you may have trouble now.

3. Fail for insufficiently supported or protected wires.

4. Driver's seat must go back and forward.  So presumably if you've
got a fixed type bucket seat, that could be a problem.

Any thoughts?
Matt


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Re: [Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes

2012-02-22 Thread Mark Miles
I have had an MOT fail previously for a split rubber on a steering balljoint so 
I suspect that this is not a change. The HID thing is good news, around here we 
have a lot of clios etc  with aftermarket HID and they are dazzling at best.
The insufficiently supported/protected wires is a direct concern for me. The 
wiring on my car is in a dreadful state. I think this will bring forward my 
project to update the electrical systems on the car. MOT in June so something 
of a priority I think. I am not sure of the benefit of a drivers seat that 
moves I am the only person that drives my car and the seat hasn't been 
moved since I bought the car nearly three years ago.
 
Mark Miles

Manager
Bar Square
8 Market Place
Wokingham
Berkshire
RG40 1AL

07565 110439



 From: MattWilson(Q2-412) wilson.m...@virgin.net
To: Quantum Owners Group quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012, 9:38
Subject: [Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes
 
As we're all getting quite enthusiastic about legal issues and MOT
regs etc
Someone at work forwarded the below link to me last week:

http://uk.autoblog.com/2012/01/04/changes-to-mot-rules-in-2012-are-you-ready/

I was wondering how some of this might affect our Quantum's at MOT
time.  (Not sure how much of the article is the usual scare-
mongering).

Some highlights I thought may casue a few issues:
1. Missing, or split/damaged dust covers on steering and suspension
ball-joints will result in failure if they will allow dirt to enter
the joint. maybe that's always been the case and is good practice to
sort ASAP anyway but a pain if time is short in the run-up to your
MOT.

2. They've essentially closed the door on after-market HID (GOOD!).
So if you've got them, you may have trouble now.

3. Fail for insufficiently supported or protected wires.

4. Driver's seat must go back and forward.  So presumably if you've
got a fixed type bucket seat, that could be a problem.

Any thoughts?
Matt


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Re: [Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes

2012-02-22 Thread Jim Hearne
I thought an insecure battery was also a failure already.

Jim

  From: Mark Miles 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:58 AM
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes


  I have had an MOT fail previously for a split rubber on a steering balljoint 
so I suspect that this is not a change. The HID thing is good news, around here 
we have a lot of clios etc  with aftermarket HID and they are dazzling at best.
  The insufficiently supported/protected wires is a direct concern for me. The 
wiring on my car is in a dreadful state. I think this will bring forward my 
project to update the electrical systems on the car. MOT in June so something 
of a priority I think. I am not sure of the benefit of a drivers seat that 
moves I am the only person that drives my car and the seat hasn't been 
moved since I bought the car nearly three years ago.

  Mark Miles

  Manager
  Bar Square
  8 Market Place
  Wokingham
  Berkshire
  RG40 1AL


  07565 110439



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  From: MattWilson(Q2-412) wilson.m...@virgin.net
  To: Quantum Owners Group quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012, 9:38
  Subject: [Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes


  As we're all getting quite enthusiastic about legal issues and MOT
  regs etc
  Someone at work forwarded the below link to me last week:

  http://uk.autoblog.com/2012/01/04/changes-to-mot-rules-in-2012-are-you-ready/

  I was wondering how some of this might affect our Quantum's at MOT
  time.  (Not sure how much of the article is the usual scare-
  mongering).

  Some highlights I thought may casue a few issues:
  1. Missing, or split/damaged dust covers on steering and suspension
  ball-joints will result in failure if they will allow dirt to enter
  the joint. maybe that's always been the case and is good practice to
  sort ASAP anyway but a pain if time is short in the run-up to your
  MOT.

  2. They've essentially closed the door on after-market HID (GOOD!).
  So if you've got them, you may have trouble now.

  3. Fail for insufficiently supported or protected wires.

  4. Driver's seat must go back and forward.  So presumably if you've
  got a fixed type bucket seat, that could be a problem.

  Any thoughts?
  Matt


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RE: [Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes

2012-02-22 Thread Hamish Freeman
I am pleased to say that my H4 passed with only a warning on handbrake
adjustment which considering that I just put it in this year is OK.  Looking
at the list suggested below, I would be fairly unhappy if any of the things
on the list were not within the requirements.  One point was interesting as
I do believe the professionally fitted and  wired towing hitch on Trish's
car has two wires crossed as it refused to run a standard trailer board!  My
H4 trailer socket is OK.

There are a host of other things that have crept in but are well worth it.
The first MOT on my Beauford identified that the rear half shaft nuts were
not torqued up to the correct figure to the extent that a wheel might have
fallen off in due course - this is something I had no cause to undo during
the build so was as is at manufacture.  I considered the money spent was
more than worth it for safety, particularly as our local garage is reliable,
technically highly competent (they race minis) and only fails cars if there
are things which could be dangerous, which is what the test is all about.

My experience of looking after your own cars is that being too close leads
to familiarity and sometimes to oversight thus the MOT is a welcome check -
particularly when it finds things wrong with a car still under guarantee!

Hamish

-Original Message-
From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of MattWilson(Q2-412)
Sent: 22 February 2012 09:39
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes

As we're all getting quite enthusiastic about legal issues and MOT regs
etc
Someone at work forwarded the below link to me last week:

http://uk.autoblog.com/2012/01/04/changes-to-mot-rules-in-2012-are-you-ready
/

I was wondering how some of this might affect our Quantum's at MOT time.
(Not sure how much of the article is the usual scare- mongering).

Some highlights I thought may casue a few issues:
1. Missing, or split/damaged dust covers on steering and suspension
ball-joints will result in failure if they will allow dirt to enter the
joint. maybe that's always been the case and is good practice to sort ASAP
anyway but a pain if time is short in the run-up to your
MOT.

2. They've essentially closed the door on after-market HID (GOOD!).
So if you've got them, you may have trouble now.

3. Fail for insufficiently supported or protected wires.

4. Driver's seat must go back and forward.  So presumably if you've got a
fixed type bucket seat, that could be a problem.

Any thoughts?
Matt


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Re: [Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes

2012-02-22 Thread Susan and Martin Scott
How about cars that have been built without seat adjustment (eg sylva J15, 
Riot)?

Would an extra bit of foam be regarded as adjustment?


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From: Hamish Freeman ham...@blimps.fsnet.co.uk

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes


I am pleased to say that my H4 passed with only a warning on handbrake
adjustment which considering that I just put it in this year is OK.  Looking
at the list suggested below, I would be fairly unhappy if any of the things
on the list were not within the requirements.  One point was interesting as
I do believe the professionally fitted and  wired towing hitch on Trish's
car has two wires crossed as it refused to run a standard trailer board!  My
H4 trailer socket is OK.

There are a host of other things that have crept in but are well worth it.
The first MOT on my Beauford identified that the rear half shaft nuts were
not torqued up to the correct figure to the extent that a wheel might have
fallen off in due course - this is something I had no cause to undo during
the build so was as is at manufacture.  I considered the money spent was
more than worth it for safety, particularly as our local garage is reliable,
technically highly competent (they race minis) and only fails cars if there
are things which could be dangerous, which is what the test is all about.

My experience of looking after your own cars is that being too close leads
to familiarity and sometimes to oversight thus the MOT is a welcome check -
particularly when it finds things wrong with a car still under guarantee!

Hamish

-Original Message-
From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of MattWilson(Q2-412)
Sent: 22 February 2012 09:39
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] MOT Reg Changes

As we're all getting quite enthusiastic about legal issues and MOT regs
etc
Someone at work forwarded the below link to me last week:

http://uk.autoblog.com/2012/01/04/changes-to-mot-rules-in-2012-are-you-ready
/

I was wondering how some of this might affect our Quantum's at MOT time.
(Not sure how much of the article is the usual scare- mongering).

Some highlights I thought may casue a few issues:
1. Missing, or split/damaged dust covers on steering and suspension
ball-joints will result in failure if they will allow dirt to enter the
joint. maybe that's always been the case and is good practice to sort ASAP
anyway but a pain if time is short in the run-up to your
MOT.

2. They've essentially closed the door on after-market HID (GOOD!).
So if you've got them, you may have trouble now.

3. Fail for insufficiently supported or protected wires.

4. Driver's seat must go back and forward.  So presumably if you've got a
fixed type bucket seat, that could be a problem.

Any thoughts?
Matt


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