[Quantum Owners] Re: Power steering saloon.
I have a mk3 dash fitted but as the column has two universals in it you could angle it in the same way as the mk2 column was , I actually reused the mk2 pedal box at first but later changed to a mk3 one as it better suited the new auto brake pedal and the escort servo/master cyl setup I run. I remember old Q offering a power steering conversion when I ordered my 2+2 but it was a good grand or so !! I looked long and hard for an off the shelf option for the coupe to use a normal type ps rack but couldn't find anything so I reckon old Q must have had the ps racks made it would explain the cost. A fellow Q owner pointed me in the direction of the mgtf column , I was initially looking at the corsa type but the ecu is easier to deal with on these. Darren -Original Message- From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ROBERT CRAIG Sent: 12 November 2008 18:54 To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Power steering saloon. Darren, That sounds like a good set up. Did you have to modify the dash, as the Fiesta column is offset but I don't think the Escort one was. Cheers Bob Craig (Q2-267) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quantum Owners Group quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Power steering saloon. I know it's a bit late but my email still isn't working properly since the broadband isp switch sorry :-( BUT i have power steering on my coupe , uses mgtf electric stuff. i used the complete column with wheel and switch gear to make things easier . you keep the original mk2 fiesta rack but install a mk3/4 escort steering rack pinion in it.i also fitted a switch (as many mgtf owners do) to turn off the system if you want more feedback say for track days , but to be honest i have never turned it off only to do some back to back tests when first fitted. it is speed sensitive so by 30 its pretty much off anyway. Darren On 5 Nov, 07:54, John Woodward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that the all electric (motor) power steering used in Corsa's etc have electronic control which reduces the effect @ higher speeds. When using the Corsa power steering in RWD Escorts etc.a control has to be fitted, I've seen these boards on EBay,they use a manual control to vary the effect of the power steering, have a look at item no. 330283675508. John On 5 Nov, 00:31, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just thought of a benefit of electrically operated hydraulic power steering... Speed sensing sensitivity... Or switch it off at a higher speed. Is that a valid reason? Matthew No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1776 - Release Date: 08/11/2008 18:49 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1776 - Release Date: 08/11/2008 18:49 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Quantum Owners] Re: Power steering saloon.
I think the thing with alternate steering racks is that apart from getting the column connected up you need a rack: 1. At the same height as the original (probably not too hard). 2. With the same length track rods. 3. With the same distance between the inner ball joints (the ones inside the steering rack gaiters). The last of these is the tricky one if you are using the rack from something else. From what i remember the idea is that the inner ball joints should be the same distance apart as the inner pivots on the lower suspension (or on a line between the lower pivot and the effective upper pivot) so that as the suspension goes up and down the rack doesn't change the tracking. Failure to get this right gives you bad bump steer. Little chance of getting new Quantum to tell you what the rack is i suspect (if they know). Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we know what the donor vehicle is for this electro hydraulic system? If it fits into a saloon, I would guess it will fit into a 2+. It is something I was hoping to install as the main driver of my 2+ is my wife and she is used to power steering since the demise of her Metro! I was contemplating the electric power steering, but I didn't want to be chopping and changing the steering column, dash and wiring about. Sounds like this is a suitable alternative? The engine in mine is off a Zetec escort. I wonder if the mechanical drive power steering pump could be retained in place of the electric one, and the steering rack from the donor used? Not sure if there is space, but would be interested in knowing if the principle is sound if anybody knows... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Quantum Owners] Re: Power steering saloon.
It may be possible to shorten the track rods and cut a new thread on them (or are they rolled?), however as Jim says, the distance between the inner joints is important. - Original Message - From: Jim Hearne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Power steering saloon. I think the thing with alternate steering racks is that apart from getting the column connected up you need a rack: 1. At the same height as the original (probably not too hard). 2. With the same length track rods. 3. With the same distance between the inner ball joints (the ones inside the steering rack gaiters). The last of these is the tricky one if you are using the rack from something else. From what i remember the idea is that the inner ball joints should be the same distance apart as the inner pivots on the lower suspension (or on a line between the lower pivot and the effective upper pivot) so that as the suspension goes up and down the rack doesn't change the tracking. Failure to get this right gives you bad bump steer. Little chance of getting new Quantum to tell you what the rack is i suspect (if they know). Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we know what the donor vehicle is for this electro hydraulic system? If it fits into a saloon, I would guess it will fit into a 2+. It is something I was hoping to install as the main driver of my 2+ is my wife and she is used to power steering since the demise of her Metro! I was contemplating the electric power steering, but I didn't want to be chopping and changing the steering column, dash and wiring about. Sounds like this is a suitable alternative? The engine in mine is off a Zetec escort. I wonder if the mechanical drive power steering pump could be retained in place of the electric one, and the steering rack from the donor used? Not sure if there is space, but would be interested in knowing if the principle is sound if anybody knows... -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1764 - Release Date: 03/11/2008 07:46 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Quantum Owners] Re: Power steering saloon.
According to Paul @ QSC (Devon) they fitted the Power steering in 2001 to my Saloon, which I'm sure was the year that everything moved to Devon, if so the Power steering kit may have been around when old QSC wre still in Stourbridge. I will try pursue the parts used further, if only for future reference of sourcing any related spare parts. John On 4 Nov, 18:36, susanandmartinscott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may be possible to shorten the track rods and cut a new thread on them (or are they rolled?), however as Jim says, the distance between the inner joints is important. - Original Message - From: Jim Hearne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Power steering saloon. I think the thing with alternate steering racks is that apart from getting the column connected up you need a rack: 1. At the same height as the original (probably not too hard). 2. With the same length track rods. 3. With the same distance between the inner ball joints (the ones inside the steering rack gaiters). The last of these is the tricky one if you are using the rack from something else. From what i remember the idea is that the inner ball joints should be the same distance apart as the inner pivots on the lower suspension (or on a line between the lower pivot and the effective upper pivot) so that as the suspension goes up and down the rack doesn't change the tracking. Failure to get this right gives you bad bump steer. Little chance of getting new Quantum to tell you what the rack is i suspect (if they know). Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we know what the donor vehicle is for this electro hydraulic system? If it fits into a saloon, I would guess it will fit into a 2+. It is something I was hoping to install as the main driver of my 2+ is my wife and she is used to power steering since the demise of her Metro! I was contemplating the electric power steering, but I didn't want to be chopping and changing the steering column, dash and wiring about. Sounds like this is a suitable alternative? The engine in mine is off a Zetec escort. I wonder if the mechanical drive power steering pump could be retained in place of the electric one, and the steering rack from the donor used? Not sure if there is space, but would be interested in knowing if the principle is sound if anybody knows... -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1764 - Release Date: 03/11/2008 07:46- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Quantum Owners] Re: Power steering saloon.
I know a lot of us would like power steering and a few of our spouses require it, however thought I'd mention a tip I got years back from an old chap I knew when I complained that my Land Rover 110 didn't have power steering but did have massive knobbly mud tyres. I also know that you cannot share this tip with the spouse else you'll be telling him/her how to drive. However this works for me... When turning the wheel, always keep the car moving. Don't try to turn on the spot. If you are reverse parking or similar where you cannot move any real distance, rock the car on the clutch so that it moves an inch forward and backwards whilst slowly steering - you'll be amazed at how light the steering is in comparison to stationary. Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Quantum Owners] Re: Power steering saloon.
Just thought of a benefit of electrically operated hydraulic power steering... Speed sensing sensitivity... Or switch it off at a higher speed. Is that a valid reason? Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
