[Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Well I made a mess of that, I did mean front brakes on my H4 NOT 2+2oops Also I was going to ask what rear springs people were using on their H4s. I have standard XR2i 16v suspension and although the front rides over the bumps fine the rear jarrs the car, plus my spine pretty badly. I'm thinking softer springs might improve matters. On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: > I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could > probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I > have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. > > According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has > anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
[Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
I have fitted ST150 front brakes to my H4. Not sure if they are the same as RS2000 but they were a straight swop. I had to use the existing fixing bolts as the ST ones were too long. I also fitted a new Fiesta SI master cylinder to try to reduce the extra pedal travel. The improvement was not as marked as I would have liked, but I'm not convinced that the genuine Ford pads are that good! The main problems I had was bleeding the system & adusting the master cylinder to servo clearence.(trial & error method!) 15" min wheels are needed. JimT On Feb 8, 2:32 pm, skip_rat wrote: > Well I made a mess of that, I did mean front brakes on my H4 NOT > 2+2oops > > Also I was going to ask what rear springs people were using on their > H4s. I have standard XR2i 16v suspension and although the front rides > over the bumps fine the rear jarrs the car, plus my spine pretty > badly. I'm thinking softer springs might improve matters. > > On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: > > > > > I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could > > probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I > > have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. > > > According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has > > anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement?- Hide > > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
[Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
I thought I'd heard mention of using 1.1 rear suspension, I will give that a go. The main issue I have with the brakes are that it seems to require a huge ammount of effort to slow/stop the car. They seem much worse than the 2+2 we used to have. There isn't a huge ammount of pedal travel but you seem to have to press really hard to get much response. I had a basic brake test done and they seem to be working well enough and would lock up on the rollers. I think the pads I used were AP/ lockheed(?), the disks are standard and fairly new with no scores/wear lip. I now have the RS2000 brakes and the disks are 260mm compared with the xr2i 239.5mm. I did consider the Cosworth setup but was concerned that they wouldn't fit under my 15" wheels. I was also considering a servo upgrade, are there any options for this? On 8 Feb, 22:40, Gary wrote: > 1.1 dampers and springs on the back were what old Q found best for all > round use. and 1.6 si on the front. worked for me. > I improved the braking on our old Q by fitting groved diamond black > discs and EBC green stuff pads. again no great improvement but super for > spirited driving. > :-) > Ex Q Gary > > > > skip_rat wrote: > > Well I made a mess of that, I did mean front brakes on my H4 NOT > > 2+2oops > > > Also I was going to ask what rear springs people were using on their > > H4s. I have standard XR2i 16v suspension and although the front rides > > over the bumps fine the rear jarrs the car, plus my spine pretty > > badly. I'm thinking softer springs might improve matters. > > > On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: > > >> I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could > >> probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I > >> have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. > > >> According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has > >> anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement?- Hide > >> quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
[Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Yes the servo is working, although i did wonder if it was at first. The pedal does drop slightly when you do the engine start servo test. I had the displeasue of having to have it towed for a short distance, without the engine running and no servo the brakes were noticably worse, almost scary. On 9 Feb, 09:27, Jim Hearne wrote: > Is the servo working ? > I think the test for a servo is to put your foot on the brake pedal and > then start the engine. > If the pedal moves down further then the servo is working. > > Jim > > > > skip_rat wrote: > > I thought I'd heard mention of using 1.1 rear suspension, I will give > > that a go. > > > The main issue I have with the brakes are that it seems to require a > > huge ammount of effort to slow/stop the car. They seem much worse than > > the 2+2 we used to have. There isn't a huge ammount of pedal travel > > but you seem to have to press really hard to get much response. I had > > a basic brake test done and they seem to be working well enough and > > would lock up on the rollers. I think the pads I used were AP/ > > lockheed(?), the disks are standard and fairly new with no scores/wear > > lip. > > > I now have the RS2000 brakes and the disks are 260mm compared with the > > xr2i 239.5mm. I did consider the Cosworth setup but was concerned that > > they wouldn't fit under my 15" wheels. > > > I was also considering a servo upgrade, are there any options for > > this? > > > On 8 Feb, 22:40, Gary wrote: > > >> 1.1 dampers and springs on the back were what old Q found best for all > >> round use. and 1.6 si on the front. worked for me. > >> I improved the braking on our old Q by fitting groved diamond black > >> discs and EBC green stuff pads. again no great improvement but super for > >> spirited driving. > >> :-) > >> Ex Q Gary > > >> skip_rat wrote: > > >>> Well I made a mess of that, I did mean front brakes on my H4 NOT > >>> 2+2oops > > >>> Also I was going to ask what rear springs people were using on their > >>> H4s. I have standard XR2i 16v suspension and although the front rides > >>> over the bumps fine the rear jarrs the car, plus my spine pretty > >>> badly. I'm thinking softer springs might improve matters. > > >>> On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: > > I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could > probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I > have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. > > According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has > anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement?- Hide > quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
[Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
When I first had my 2+2 the brakes were terrible, the Servo test worked, so I changed everything else with no effect, then decided it must be the Servo, which I replaced with one from the breakers & everything was fine, my conclusion was that the servo was working to some degree but far from efficiently. So don't always assume the Servo is OK if the pedal drops when the engine is started. John On Feb 9, 10:04 am, Stuart Carvell wrote: > Dont some people change the servo to an escort one? > > Think something needs modifying to do this though? > > Stuart > > > > > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 01:48:18 -0800 > > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension. > > From: theskip...@hotmail.com > > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > > > Yes the servo is working, although i did wonder if it was at first. > > The pedal does drop slightly when you do the engine start servo test. > > > I had the displeasue of having to have it towed for a short distance, > > without the engine running and no servo the brakes were noticably > > worse, almost scary. > > > On 9 Feb, 09:27, Jim Hearne wrote: > > > Is the servo working ? > > > I think the test for a servo is to put your foot on the brake pedal and > > > then start the engine. > > > If the pedal moves down further then the servo is working. > > > > Jim > > > > skip_rat wrote: > > > > I thought I'd heard mention of using 1.1 rear suspension, I will give > > > > that a go. > > > > > The main issue I have with the brakes are that it seems to require a > > > > huge ammount of effort to slow/stop the car. They seem much worse than > > > > the 2+2 we used to have. There isn't a huge ammount of pedal travel > > > > but you seem to have to press really hard to get much response. I had > > > > a basic brake test done and they seem to be working well enough and > > > > would lock up on the rollers. I think the pads I used were AP/ > > > > lockheed(?), the disks are standard and fairly new with no scores/wear > > > > lip. > > > > > I now have the RS2000 brakes and the disks are 260mm compared with the > > > > xr2i 239.5mm. I did consider the Cosworth setup but was concerned that > > > > they wouldn't fit under my 15" wheels. > > > > > I was also considering a servo upgrade, are there any options for > > > > this? > > > > > On 8 Feb, 22:40, Gary wrote: > > > > >> 1.1 dampers and springs on the back were what old Q found best for all > > > >> round use. and 1.6 si on the front. worked for me. > > > >> I improved the braking on our old Q by fitting groved diamond black > > > >> discs and EBC green stuff pads. again no great improvement but super > > > >> for > > > >> spirited driving. > > > >> :-) > > > >> Ex Q Gary > > > > >> skip_rat wrote: > > > > >>> Well I made a mess of that, I did mean front brakes on my H4 NOT > > > >>> 2+2oops > > > > >>> Also I was going to ask what rear springs people were using on their > > > >>> H4s. I have standard XR2i 16v suspension and although the front rides > > > >>> over the bumps fine the rear jarrs the car, plus my spine pretty > > > >>> badly. I'm thinking softer springs might improve matters. > > > > >>> On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: > > > > >>>> I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could > > > >>>> probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I > > > >>>> have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. > > > > >>>> According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has > > > >>>> anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement?- > > > >>>> Hide quoted text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en
[Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
I don't have an H4, so can't answer my own question. Does the H4 have a fibreglass bulkhead or is it steel?? The reason I ask is that I had my 2+2 in for IVA test today, and yes it failed, but worryingly was one of the things it failed on was excessive flex in the bulkhead when pressing the brake. This was both at the pedal box end, but more so at the servo end, so lost movement equals lost effieciency. Now how am I going to fix that!! Russell On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: > I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could > probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I > have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. > > According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has > anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
[Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
There's normally a list on the front page of totalkitcar.com of all kits that have passed the IVA (as supplied by the manufacturers themselves I believe, not individuals). On 11 Feb, 18:17, Derek Clews wrote: > Surely mass production cars are not built as strongly as that, are they? > > Anyone now what current kit cars are passing the IVA, if any? > > Derek > > On 10 Feb 2010, at 17:49, Hamish Freeman wrote: > > > I would agree with that - my Beauford failed its IVA test on many > > issues but in particular anything fixed in fibreglass, regardless of > > thickness or reinforcement was an instant fail! As for anything > > going through the wooden floors (I had actually anticipated all > > of this but not to the level of a Brick Outhouse approach now > > apparently required). All structural stuff - brakes and seat belt > > fixings - has to be taken back to a steel chassis member through a > > minimum of 4 mm steel plate - not in the regs but that is what I was > > told. > > > Although the bulkhead on an H4 is made of steel, it does flex but > > nothing like as much as the transfer linkage necessary with the > > Fiesta brake system. > > - Original Message - > > From: Susan and Martin Scott > > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear > > suspension. > > > sound like they are anti -GRP > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. > > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an > > "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither > > the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the > > Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information > > shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to > > liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly > > or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related > > message(s). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Dave, What do you find to be the problem? We probably need to know what you are looking for from your brakes before we can suggest a solution. I have fitted the 4wd Cosworth front brakes on my H4 and this does improve the braking performance, but the main improvement is less over heating when used on the track. However I do find that the brake pedal requires more movement compared with my Saloon, but the overall braking is a lot better. I did find with the original FRST brakes that getting a good pad made a huge difference - avoid the Halfords pads if you wish to make more than 1 aggressive braking manoeuvre. Regards, Steve -- www.h4-turbo.co.uk www.quantumowners.co.uk www.quantumsportscars.co.uk On Monday 08 Feb 2010, skip_rat wrote: > Well I made a mess of that, I did mean front brakes on my H4 NOT > 2+2oops > > Also I was going to ask what rear springs people were using on their > H4s. I have standard XR2i 16v suspension and although the front rides > over the bumps fine the rear jarrs the car, plus my spine pretty > badly. I'm thinking softer springs might improve matters. > > On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: > > I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could > > probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I > > have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. > > > > According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has > > anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
1.1 dampers and springs on the back were what old Q found best for all round use. and 1.6 si on the front. worked for me. I improved the braking on our old Q by fitting groved diamond black discs and EBC green stuff pads. again no great improvement but super for spirited driving. :-) Ex Q Gary skip_rat wrote: Well I made a mess of that, I did mean front brakes on my H4 NOT 2+2oops Also I was going to ask what rear springs people were using on their H4s. I have standard XR2i 16v suspension and although the front rides over the bumps fine the rear jarrs the car, plus my spine pretty badly. I'm thinking softer springs might improve matters. On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Is the servo working ? I think the test for a servo is to put your foot on the brake pedal and then start the engine. If the pedal moves down further then the servo is working. Jim skip_rat wrote: I thought I'd heard mention of using 1.1 rear suspension, I will give that a go. The main issue I have with the brakes are that it seems to require a huge ammount of effort to slow/stop the car. They seem much worse than the 2+2 we used to have. There isn't a huge ammount of pedal travel but you seem to have to press really hard to get much response. I had a basic brake test done and they seem to be working well enough and would lock up on the rollers. I think the pads I used were AP/ lockheed(?), the disks are standard and fairly new with no scores/wear lip. I now have the RS2000 brakes and the disks are 260mm compared with the xr2i 239.5mm. I did consider the Cosworth setup but was concerned that they wouldn't fit under my 15" wheels. I was also considering a servo upgrade, are there any options for this? On 8 Feb, 22:40, Gary wrote: 1.1 dampers and springs on the back were what old Q found best for all round use. and 1.6 si on the front. worked for me. I improved the braking on our old Q by fitting groved diamond black discs and EBC green stuff pads. again no great improvement but super for spirited driving. :-) Ex Q Gary skip_rat wrote: Well I made a mess of that, I did mean front brakes on my H4 NOT 2+2oops Also I was going to ask what rear springs people were using on their H4s. I have standard XR2i 16v suspension and although the front rides over the bumps fine the rear jarrs the car, plus my spine pretty badly. I'm thinking softer springs might improve matters. On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Dont some people change the servo to an escort one? Think something needs modifying to do this though? Stuart > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 01:48:18 -0800 > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension. > From: theskip...@hotmail.com > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > > Yes the servo is working, although i did wonder if it was at first. > The pedal does drop slightly when you do the engine start servo test. > > I had the displeasue of having to have it towed for a short distance, > without the engine running and no servo the brakes were noticably > worse, almost scary. > > On 9 Feb, 09:27, Jim Hearne wrote: > > Is the servo working ? > > I think the test for a servo is to put your foot on the brake pedal and > > then start the engine. > > If the pedal moves down further then the servo is working. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > skip_rat wrote: > > > I thought I'd heard mention of using 1.1 rear suspension, I will give > > > that a go. > > > > > The main issue I have with the brakes are that it seems to require a > > > huge ammount of effort to slow/stop the car. They seem much worse than > > > the 2+2 we used to have. There isn't a huge ammount of pedal travel > > > but you seem to have to press really hard to get much response. I had > > > a basic brake test done and they seem to be working well enough and > > > would lock up on the rollers. I think the pads I used were AP/ > > > lockheed(?), the disks are standard and fairly new with no scores/wear > > > lip. > > > > > I now have the RS2000 brakes and the disks are 260mm compared with the > > > xr2i 239.5mm. I did consider the Cosworth setup but was concerned that > > > they wouldn't fit under my 15" wheels. > > > > > I was also considering a servo upgrade, are there any options for > > > this? > > > > > On 8 Feb, 22:40, Gary wrote: > > > > >> 1.1 dampers and springs on the back were what old Q found best for all > > >> round use. and 1.6 si on the front. worked for me. > > >> I improved the braking on our old Q by fitting groved diamond black > > >> discs and EBC green stuff pads. again no great improvement but super for > > >> spirited driving. > > >> :-) > > >> Ex Q Gary > > > > >> skip_rat wrote: > > > > >>> Well I made a mess of that, I did mean front brakes on my H4 NOT > > >>> 2+2oops > > > > >>> Also I was going to ask what rear springs people were using on their > > >>> H4s. I have standard XR2i 16v suspension and although the front rides > > >>> over the bumps fine the rear jarrs the car, plus my spine pretty > > >>> badly. I'm thinking softer springs might improve matters. > > > > >>> On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: > > > > >>>> I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could > > >>>> probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I > > >>>> have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. > > > > >>>> According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has > > >>>> anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement?- Hide > > >>>> quoted text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" > basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in > the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged > to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this > or related message(s). _ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
For the 10 years that I have had my H4, the brakes have been to say the least underwhelming, in fact almost "underlorrying" on some occasions - a lot of free pedal movement and far too much effort for the level of retention achieved. Over the last year I have experimented with shimming out the fulcrum end of the shoes and the results are quite dramatic as far as braking is concerned - first there is less free movement and now I get really good progressive braking but even now it cannot be described as earth shattering compared say to the astoundingly good braking on Trish's Micra - smaller brakes, smaller servo. I have replaced the front discs, all pads and shoes and have noted a degree of ovality in the rear drums. What does all this mean? In brief it is a matter of the geometry of the system such that the radius of curvature of the shoes does not match that of the drums and by shimming out the fulcrum the shoes now first contact nearer to the fulcrum giving a potential of more contact between shoe and drum as the braking pressure is increased. The first efforts at this were encouraging to the extent that I turned up a mandrel on which to mount the drums and then skimmed them to remove the considerable ovality, ~ 0.3 mm on diameter for each drum. This then required further shimming of the fulcrum to get back to my previous "Good" state with the knowledge that I had actually worsened the situation with regard to mismatch of radii. As the shoes now bed in to the drums the brakes are getting better! If anyone is contemplating following this approach should do so with extreme caution as the shoes get very near the edge of the retainer bar at the fulcrum at the stage where most effect is achieved. Check that the spring retainers for the shoes are working effectively and have not rusted away. N.B. The brakes come with hardened steel shims of ~ 0.5 mm thickness, around 2 or 3 on each side of the fulcrum block. I have now replaced these with custom-made shims of ~3.5 mm thickness each side for best effect but each situation will differ. My yardstick for effective shimming was to very lightly abrade each shoe with emery at right angles to the shoe then drive round and note how much of the shoe was now bedding - i.e. a very traditional and long-winded "suck it and see" method. I have gone from ~ 5% contact at the furthest point away from the fulcrum to nearer 75% from the fulcrum end with potential for further gains as the brakes bed in. One characteristic that I have never been able to eliminate is the sponginess of the brakes. I have bled them by conventional means, with pressure bleeders and even tried the old trick of wedging the brake pedal down overnight before bleeding them again next day, both facing up and down our 30° drive and including car ramps to increase the angle up to 45°, all to no avail - has anyone else managed to overcome this problem? Hamish - Original Message - From: skip_rat To: Quantum Owners Group Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:00 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension. The main issue I have with the brakes are that it seems to require a huge ammount of effort to slow/stop the car. They seem much worse than the 2+2 we used to have. There isn't a huge ammount of pedal travel but you seem to have to press really hard to get much response. I had a basic brake test done and they seem to be working well enough and would lock up on the rollers. I think the pads I used were AP/ lockheed(?), the disks are standard and fairly new with no scores/wear lip. I was also considering a servo upgrade, are there any options for this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
The H4 bulkhead is steel. Assuming the fibreglass hasn't cracked around any of the transfer bar or servo fixings then it's just normal. Take it to another garage. You want to look at a Fiesta bulkhead, it flexes more than the Quantum. If you want to try and improve it then make up some 3mm steel plates to cover the whole fixing area behind the pedal box and the servo brackets and several inchs out (where possible). Bond them to the bulkhead. Jim russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: I don't have an H4, so can't answer my own question. Does the H4 have a fibreglass bulkhead or is it steel?? The reason I ask is that I had my 2+2 in for IVA test today, and yes it failed, but worryingly was one of the things it failed on was excessive flex in the bulkhead when pressing the brake. This was both at the pedal box end, but more so at the servo end, so lost movement equals lost effieciency. Now how am I going to fix that!! Russell On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Take it to another garage! at £450 a go, who do you think I am Barron Rothschild? The testers suggestion was to weld a steel plate between the two subrame bars at the back of the engine bay and bolt through that which would be very difficult to do with the engine in. They also failed it on flexing of the body where the handbrake cable bracket fastens on, this is easier to fix. All the points raised were very valid, most my fault for not taking the time to read the testers manual, but it gives me something to do on a weekend now until the retest. Russ On 10/02/2010 17:02, Jim Hearne wrote: The H4 bulkhead is steel. Assuming the fibreglass hasn't cracked around any of the transfer bar or servo fixings then it's just normal. Take it to another garage. You want to look at a Fiesta bulkhead, it flexes more than the Quantum. If you want to try and improve it then make up some 3mm steel plates to cover the whole fixing area behind the pedal box and the servo brackets and several inchs out (where possible). Bond them to the bulkhead. Jim russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: I don't have an H4, so can't answer my own question. Does the H4 have a fibreglass bulkhead or is it steel?? The reason I ask is that I had my 2+2 in for IVA test today, and yes it failed, but worryingly was one of the things it failed on was excessive flex in the bulkhead when pressing the brake. This was both at the pedal box end, but more so at the servo end, so lost movement equals lost effieciency. Now how am I going to fix that!! Russell On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
sound like they are anti -GRP - Original Message - From: "Russell Willcox" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension. Take it to another garage! at £450 a go, who do you think I am Barron Rothschild? The testers suggestion was to weld a steel plate between the two subrame bars at the back of the engine bay and bolt through that which would be very difficult to do with the engine in. They also failed it on flexing of the body where the handbrake cable bracket fastens on, this is easier to fix. All the points raised were very valid, most my fault for not taking the time to read the testers manual, but it gives me something to do on a weekend now until the retest. Russ On 10/02/2010 17:02, Jim Hearne wrote: The H4 bulkhead is steel. Assuming the fibreglass hasn't cracked around any of the transfer bar or servo fixings then it's just normal. Take it to another garage. You want to look at a Fiesta bulkhead, it flexes more than the Quantum. If you want to try and improve it then make up some 3mm steel plates to cover the whole fixing area behind the pedal box and the servo brackets and several inchs out (where possible). Bond them to the bulkhead. Jim russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: I don't have an H4, so can't answer my own question. Does the H4 have a fibreglass bulkhead or is it steel?? The reason I ask is that I had my 2+2 in for IVA test today, and yes it failed, but worryingly was one of the things it failed on was excessive flex in the bulkhead when pressing the brake. This was both at the pedal box end, but more so at the servo end, so lost movement equals lost effieciency. Now how am I going to fix that!! Russell On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2679 - Release Date: 02/10/10 07:40:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
I would agree with that - my Beauford failed its IVA test on many issues but in particular anything fixed in fibreglass, regardless of thickness or reinforcement was an instant fail! As for anything going through the wooden floors (I had actually anticipated all of this but not to the level of a Brick Outhouse approach now apparently required). All structural stuff - brakes and seat belt fixings - has to be taken back to a steel chassis member through a minimum of 4 mm steel plate - not in the regs but that is what I was told. Although the bulkhead on an H4 is made of steel, it does flex but nothing like as much as the transfer linkage necessary with the Fiesta brake system. - Original Message - From: Susan and Martin Scott To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension. sound like they are anti -GRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Hi Russell, Sorry to hear your bad news re' IVA and your 2+2, I had an identical problem with a 2+2 going thru' SVA a few years ago. I know the following will probably be no use to you as we are now talking IVA not the old SVA but: I just did not know what to do at the time, so contacted QSC, spoke to John Sampson (this was just after they had acquired the company and the 2+2 was the only one they had sold) he said it should not fail SVA for that reason if the car had been built as per the instruction manual (which it had) as the kit had been SVA approved. He made some additional enquires then phoned me back to say he was sending me a letter to take with me to the retest. Before it arrived I attended to one or two smaller items it also failed on and bonded a piece of 4mm steel aprox' 300mm X 300mm to the inside of the bulkhead, picking up the bolts for the servo (it did not seem to make any difference to the amount of flex). But thought it might pacify the tester a bit and was cheap and easy to do. A few days later went for a retest and passed thankfully. I cannot remember exactly what the letter said, but had some facts and figures on the construction of the bodyshell and its strength. Mentioned some thing about an official SVA pre approval document and noted some reference numbers I think. Good luck, Regards Geoff. On 10 February 2010 16:28, russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk < russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > I don't have an H4, so can't answer my own question. Does the H4 have > a fibreglass bulkhead or is it steel?? > > The reason I ask is that I had my 2+2 in for IVA test today, and yes > it failed, but worryingly was one of the things it failed on was > excessive flex in the bulkhead when pressing the brake. This was both > at the pedal box end, but more so at the servo end, so lost movement > equals lost effieciency. Now how am I going to fix that!! > > Russell > > On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: > > I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could > > probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I > > have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. > > > > According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has > > anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Yet the tester of my saloon was ok with all the fixings? I think it's probably the individual tester's view, as it clearly states in SVA that fixings through GRP are ok if there's sufficient plating to spread the load. - Original Message - From: Hamish Freeman To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension. I would agree with that - my Beauford failed its IVA test on many issues but in particular anything fixed in fibreglass, regardless of thickness or reinforcement was an instant fail! As for anything going through the wooden floors (I had actually anticipated all of this but not to the level of a Brick Outhouse approach now apparently required). All structural stuff - brakes and seat belt fixings - has to be taken back to a steel chassis member through a minimum of 4 mm steel plate - not in the regs but that is what I was told. Although the bulkhead on an H4 is made of steel, it does flex but nothing like as much as the transfer linkage necessary with the Fiesta brake system. - Original Message - From: Susan and Martin Scott To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension. sound like they are anti -GRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2679 - Release Date: 02/10/10 07:40:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Sorry Russell, i miss read your message as failed an MOT, not IVA. Jim russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: I don't have an H4, so can't answer my own question. Does the H4 have a fibreglass bulkhead or is it steel?? The reason I ask is that I had my 2+2 in for IVA test today, and yes it failed, but worryingly was one of the things it failed on was excessive flex in the bulkhead when pressing the brake. This was both at the pedal box end, but more so at the servo end, so lost movement equals lost effieciency. Now how am I going to fix that!! Russell On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Jim, That is fine I had guessed that, but you have already fixed one problem for me. I was searching through the group and found the item on rear fog lights, which was another failure, so at least I know how to fix that one thanks to you. Russ On 10/02/2010 19:52, Jim Hearne wrote: Sorry Russell, i miss read your message as failed an MOT, not IVA. Jim russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: I don't have an H4, so can't answer my own question. Does the H4 have a fibreglass bulkhead or is it steel?? The reason I ask is that I had my 2+2 in for IVA test today, and yes it failed, but worryingly was one of the things it failed on was excessive flex in the bulkhead when pressing the brake. This was both at the pedal box end, but more so at the servo end, so lost movement equals lost effieciency. Now how am I going to fix that!! Russell On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Russell, It is probably worth speaking to QSC re the IVA, as they might be interested in your experience with the process, as I don't know that they've put a 2+2 through themselves. Hopefully you are able to resolve all the issues quickly and without spending too much time and expense. It might be worth listing the items here to see if we can make suggestions to help. Regards, Steve -- www.h4-turbo.co.uk www.quantumowners.co.uk www.quantumsportscars.co.uk On Wednesday 10 Feb 2010, russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: > I don't have an H4, so can't answer my own question. Does the H4 have > a fibreglass bulkhead or is it steel?? > > The reason I ask is that I had my 2+2 in for IVA test today, and yes > it failed, but worryingly was one of the things it failed on was > excessive flex in the bulkhead when pressing the brake. This was both > at the pedal box end, but more so at the servo end, so lost movement > equals lost effieciency. Now how am I going to fix that!! > > Russell > > On 8 Feb, 12:47, skip_rat wrote: > > I'm not happy with the front braking performance on my 2+2. I could > > probably just replace evey part with new to see an improvement, but I > > have the chance to get a brake setup from a mk5/6 Escort RS2000. > > > > According to the fiesta forums these parts are a straing fit. Has > > anyone tried them on a H4 yet and did they see much improvement? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension.
Surely mass production cars are not built as strongly as that, are they? Anyone now what current kit cars are passing the IVA, if any? Derek On 10 Feb 2010, at 17:49, Hamish Freeman wrote: I would agree with that - my Beauford failed its IVA test on many issues but in particular anything fixed in fibreglass, regardless of thickness or reinforcement was an instant fail! As for anything going through the wooden floors (I had actually anticipated all of this but not to the level of a Brick Outhouse approach now apparently required). All structural stuff - brakes and seat belt fixings - has to be taken back to a steel chassis member through a minimum of 4 mm steel plate - not in the regs but that is what I was told. Although the bulkhead on an H4 is made of steel, it does flex but nothing like as much as the transfer linkage necessary with the Fiesta brake system. - Original Message - From: Susan and Martin Scott To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: RS2000 front brakes on a H4 & Rear suspension. sound like they are anti -GRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
