Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

[philfi2clean cleaning]

I took mine off for shot blasting and powder coating and the glue was
rotten and only effectively holding it on at the top.with a little jump
on the frame after all the bolts were out resulted on it coming away with
no damage


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On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 22:02, Derek Clews  wrote:

> Hi Darren
>
> For a few pounds you can buy a wire saw on evil-bay.  A set of handles
> with an abrasive wire between.  The kind of things that get sold for
> outdoors use to cut down a tree!  Though you never would.  I was thinking
> of making up my own with wire wound guitar strings - I was just being
> cheapskate as I have the strings anyway.
>
> You could always take up playing guitar….?!
>
> ATB
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 31 Mar 2019, at 19:19, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>
> Yeouch! That's something I want to avoid.
> I lost a bit when I took my other 2+2 subframe off but it too much.
>
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2019, 18:56 'Mark Jones' via Quantum Owners Group, <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> If i remember correctly, one  of the members recommended scoring the glue
>> and pouring white spirit onto it and leaving it a good while, then repeat
>> until it comes away from the tub. I don’t know if it works as I had already
>> pulled mine off along with copious amounts of gelcoat...
>> Thankfully Eddie was on hand to sort out my mess!!!
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:47, Derek Clews  wrote:
>> >
>> > H Daren
>> >
>> > I have been thinking of doing mine for a few years now, but events have
>> conspired against me.  So the current plan is to SORN the 2+2 over this
>> winter.  I have been saving up some old guitar strings to use as a wire to
>> pull through and cut the glue where necessary.  I am wondering if the
>> powder coat will easily pull away from the metal of the frame anyway. Then
>> I was expecting to be able to cut the adhesive back using a blade and then
>> some sandpaper to finish.   It would be interesting to see how you get on.
>> >
>> > If the frame is bad, are quantum doing replacements?  Or is it just
>> weld repair time?  I plan to stick with the CVH for the foreseeable future,
>> but did wonder if I should alter the frame for Zetec anyway as a future
>> possibility for someone else, if not me.  What are you doing on that?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Derek
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:32, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just checking if my memory is correct.
>> >>
>> >> To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to
>> save the gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air
>> gun?
>> >>
>> >> Darren
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

[Derek Clews]

Hi Darren

For a few pounds you can buy a wire saw on evil-bay.  A set of handles with an 
abrasive wire between.  The kind of things that get sold for outdoors use to 
cut down a tree!  Though you never would.  I was thinking of making up my own 
with wire wound guitar strings - I was just being cheapskate as I have the 
strings anyway.  

You could always take up playing guitar….?!

ATB

Derek






> On 31 Mar 2019, at 19:19, Darren Siepka  wrote:
> 
> Yeouch! That's something I want to avoid.
> I lost a bit when I took my other 2+2 subframe off but it too much.
> 
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2019, 18:56 'Mark Jones' via Quantum Owners Group, 
> mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> If i remember correctly, one  of the members recommended scoring the glue and 
> pouring white spirit onto it and leaving it a good while, then repeat until 
> it comes away from the tub. I don’t know if it works as I had already pulled 
> mine off along with copious amounts of gelcoat...
> Thankfully Eddie was on hand to sort out my mess!!!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:47, Derek Clews  > > wrote:
> > 
> > H Daren 
> > 
> > I have been thinking of doing mine for a few years now, but events have 
> > conspired against me.  So the current plan is to SORN the 2+2 over this 
> > winter.  I have been saving up some old guitar strings to use as a wire to 
> > pull through and cut the glue where necessary.  I am wondering if the 
> > powder coat will easily pull away from the metal of the frame anyway. Then 
> > I was expecting to be able to cut the adhesive back using a blade and then 
> > some sandpaper to finish.   It would be interesting to see how you get on.  
> > 
> > If the frame is bad, are quantum doing replacements?  Or is it just weld 
> > repair time?  I plan to stick with the CVH for the foreseeable future, but 
> > did wonder if I should alter the frame for Zetec anyway as a future 
> > possibility for someone else, if not me.  What are you doing on that?  
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Derek
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:32, dar...@siepka.me.uk  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Just checking if my memory is correct.
> >> 
> >> To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to save 
> >> the gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air gun?
> >> 
> >> Darren
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

[Darren Siepka]

Yeouch! That's something I want to avoid.
I lost a bit when I took my other 2+2 subframe off but it too much.

On Sun, 31 Mar 2019, 18:56 'Mark Jones' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> If i remember correctly, one  of the members recommended scoring the glue
> and pouring white spirit onto it and leaving it a good while, then repeat
> until it comes away from the tub. I don’t know if it works as I had already
> pulled mine off along with copious amounts of gelcoat...
> Thankfully Eddie was on hand to sort out my mess!!!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:47, Derek Clews  wrote:
> >
> > H Daren
> >
> > I have been thinking of doing mine for a few years now, but events have
> conspired against me.  So the current plan is to SORN the 2+2 over this
> winter.  I have been saving up some old guitar strings to use as a wire to
> pull through and cut the glue where necessary.  I am wondering if the
> powder coat will easily pull away from the metal of the frame anyway. Then
> I was expecting to be able to cut the adhesive back using a blade and then
> some sandpaper to finish.   It would be interesting to see how you get on.
> >
> > If the frame is bad, are quantum doing replacements?  Or is it just weld
> repair time?  I plan to stick with the CVH for the foreseeable future, but
> did wonder if I should alter the frame for Zetec anyway as a future
> possibility for someone else, if not me.  What are you doing on that?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Derek
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:32, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
> >>
> >> Just checking if my memory is correct.
> >>
> >> To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to
> save the gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air
> gun?
> >>
> >> Darren
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

['Mark Jones' via Quantum Owners Group]

If i remember correctly, one  of the members recommended scoring the glue and 
pouring white spirit onto it and leaving it a good while, then repeat until it 
comes away from the tub. I don’t know if it works as I had already pulled mine 
off along with copious amounts of gelcoat...
Thankfully Eddie was on hand to sort out my mess!!!


Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:47, Derek Clews  wrote:
> 
> H Daren 
> 
> I have been thinking of doing mine for a few years now, but events have 
> conspired against me.  So the current plan is to SORN the 2+2 over this 
> winter.  I have been saving up some old guitar strings to use as a wire to 
> pull through and cut the glue where necessary.  I am wondering if the powder 
> coat will easily pull away from the metal of the frame anyway. Then I was 
> expecting to be able to cut the adhesive back using a blade and then some 
> sandpaper to finish.   It would be interesting to see how you get on.  
> 
> If the frame is bad, are quantum doing replacements?  Or is it just weld 
> repair time?  I plan to stick with the CVH for the foreseeable future, but 
> did wonder if I should alter the frame for Zetec anyway as a future 
> possibility for someone else, if not me.  What are you doing on that?  
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Derek
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:32, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
>> 
>> Just checking if my memory is correct.
>> 
>> To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to save the 
>> gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air gun?
>> 
>> Darren
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

[Darren Siepka]

The wire idea is a good one, I wonder if mig wire might work?
On the bulkhead the powder coat is still pretty strong but elsewhere is
mostly blown.
Derek ,I don't want to say to much about the suspension changes for now but
if it works out then it will majorly help with future parts source and
maintenance.watch this space

Darren


On Sun, 31 Mar 2019, 17:17 Susan and Martin Scott, <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> Whatever you do (paint or coating) Hammerite is best avoided.
>
> Martin
> - Original Message -
> From: "Derek Clews" 
> To: "Quantum Owners Forum" 
> Cc: "Derek Clews" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal
>
>
> H Daren
>
> I have been thinking of doing mine for a few years now, but events have
> conspired against me.  So the current plan is to SORN the 2+2 over this
> winter.  I have been saving up some old guitar strings to use as a wire to
> pull through and cut the glue where necessary.  I am wondering if the
> powder
> coat will easily pull away from the metal of the frame anyway. Then I was
> expecting to be able to cut the adhesive back using a blade and then some
> sandpaper to finish.   It would be interesting to see how you get on.
>
> If the frame is bad, are quantum doing replacements?  Or is it just weld
> repair time?  I plan to stick with the CVH for the foreseeable future, but
> did wonder if I should alter the frame for Zetec anyway as a future
> possibility for someone else, if not me.  What are you doing on that?
>
> Cheers
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
> > On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:32, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
> >
> > Just checking if my memory is correct.
> >
> > To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to save
> > the gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air gun?
> >
> > Darren
> >
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

[Susan and Martin Scott]

Whatever you do (paint or coating) Hammerite is best avoided.

Martin
- Original Message - 
From: "Derek Clews" 

To: "Quantum Owners Forum" 
Cc: "Derek Clews" 
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal


H Daren

I have been thinking of doing mine for a few years now, but events have 
conspired against me.  So the current plan is to SORN the 2+2 over this 
winter.  I have been saving up some old guitar strings to use as a wire to 
pull through and cut the glue where necessary.  I am wondering if the powder 
coat will easily pull away from the metal of the frame anyway. Then I was 
expecting to be able to cut the adhesive back using a blade and then some 
sandpaper to finish.   It would be interesting to see how you get on.


If the frame is bad, are quantum doing replacements?  Or is it just weld 
repair time?  I plan to stick with the CVH for the foreseeable future, but 
did wonder if I should alter the frame for Zetec anyway as a future 
possibility for someone else, if not me.  What are you doing on that?


Cheers

Derek





On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:32, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:

Just checking if my memory is correct.

To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to save 
the gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air gun?


Darren

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

[Derek Clews]

H Daren 

I have been thinking of doing mine for a few years now, but events have 
conspired against me.  So the current plan is to SORN the 2+2 over this winter. 
 I have been saving up some old guitar strings to use as a wire to pull through 
and cut the glue where necessary.  I am wondering if the powder coat will 
easily pull away from the metal of the frame anyway. Then I was expecting to be 
able to cut the adhesive back using a blade and then some sandpaper to finish.  
 It would be interesting to see how you get on.  

If the frame is bad, are quantum doing replacements?  Or is it just weld repair 
time?  I plan to stick with the CVH for the foreseeable future, but did wonder 
if I should alter the frame for Zetec anyway as a future possibility for 
someone else, if not me.  What are you doing on that?  

Cheers

Derek




> On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:32, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
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> Just checking if my memory is correct.
> 
> To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to save the 
> gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air gun?
> 
> Darren
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[Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

[dar...@siepka.me.uk]

Just checking if my memory is correct.

To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to save the 
gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air gun?

Darren

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