[qubes-devel] Re: [qubes-users] Request for feedback: 4.9 Kernel

2017-07-13 Thread Chris Laprise

On 06/21/2017 12:45 AM, Chris Laprise wrote:

On 05/24/2017 03:51 PM, Chris Laprise wrote:

4.9 is working OK so far. I was using 4.8 prior to this.


Additional note: 4.9 seems to resolve a zombie process issue I was
having with 4.8 (domU), and the 4.9.33-18 security update is working
well so far.



The newer 4.9.35-19 kernel has a side-effect:

The return of an old problem where netVMs refuse to start unless an 
appVM has already been started. This means at boot I can't start 
anything network-connected until I start a non-networked VM.


IIRC it was Qubes R3.0 that had this problem.

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[qubes-devel] Re: Fedora 25 template for Qubes 3.2

2017-07-13 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2017-07-13 15:52, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:49:53PM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
>> Hi all,
> 
>> We've uploaded Fedora 25 template for Qubes 3.2. It was already possible
>> to perform in-place upgrade[1], but now we also provide full template.
> 
>> You can install it with:
> 
>> sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-25
> 
>> We've tested it internally, but you can help us here too!
>> This is one of things to be included in Qubes 3.2.1.
> 
>> [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-24-to-25/
> 
> Andrew, what do you think about posting this to qubes-announce in a week
> or so (unless some major issues are found)?
> 

Didn't we agree that qubes-announce is only for QSBs and new Qubes OS
releases?

Other than that, sounds good.

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Re: [qubes-devel] Re: 'Hypervisor Introspection defeated Eternalblue a priori'

2017-07-13 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 04:45:35PM -0700, pixel fairy wrote:
> On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 1:20:10 PM UTC-7, Chris Laprise wrote:
> >
> > I know Joanna's reservations about VM introspection, but this 
> > Bitdefender introspection example is interesting nonetheless: 
> >
> >
> > https://businessinsights.bitdefender.com/hypervisor-introspection-defeated-enternalblue-a-priori
> >  
> >
> 
> Im curious about these reservations. is it the attack surface?

Yes, at least two kinds:
1. Enabling API for reading VM memory break VM isolation - misbehaving
monitoring VM can steal any secret and you'll never know

2. Parsing VM memory (operating system structures, application
structures etc) is very complex - VM that know it is monitored can try
exploit the parsing code; then go to point 1 for example

As for examples what could possibly go wrong when adding anti-virus
parsing whatever it can find, see here:
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1252

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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[qubes-devel] Re: 'Hypervisor Introspection defeated Eternalblue a priori'

2017-07-13 Thread pixel fairy


On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 1:20:10 PM UTC-7, Chris Laprise wrote:
>
> I know Joanna's reservations about VM introspection, but this 
> Bitdefender introspection example is interesting nonetheless: 
>
>
> https://businessinsights.bitdefender.com/hypervisor-introspection-defeated-enternalblue-a-priori
>  
>

Im curious about these reservations. is it the attack surface?

xen hypervisor introspection looked like a total win to me.  

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[qubes-devel] Re: Fedora 25 template for Qubes 3.2

2017-07-13 Thread pixel fairy
meant to say please tell me this will be dom0 for qubes 3.2.1

On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 3:12:55 PM UTC-7, pixel fairy wrote:
>
> please tell me this will be dom0

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Re: [qubes-devel] Re: Fedora 25 template for Qubes 3.2

2017-07-13 Thread Outback Dingo
im curious if itll fix my networking issues and stop the damn core
dumps, tempted to reinstall qubes 3.2 and update this template and the
4.9 kernel see if it sorts me out finally

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> please tell me this will be dom0
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[qubes-devel] Re: Fedora 25 template for Qubes 3.2

2017-07-13 Thread pixel fairy
please tell me this will be dom0

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[qubes-devel] Re: Fedora 25 template for Qubes 3.2

2017-07-13 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:49:53PM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> We've uploaded Fedora 25 template for Qubes 3.2. It was already possible
> to perform in-place upgrade[1], but now we also provide full template.
> 
> You can install it with:
> 
> sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-25
> 
> We've tested it internally, but you can help us here too!
> This is one of things to be included in Qubes 3.2.1.
> 
> [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-24-to-25/

Andrew, what do you think about posting this to qubes-announce in a week
or so (unless some major issues are found)?

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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[qubes-devel] Fedora 25 template for Qubes 3.2

2017-07-13 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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Hi all,

We've uploaded Fedora 25 template for Qubes 3.2. It was already possible
to perform in-place upgrade[1], but now we also provide full template.

You can install it with:

sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-25

We've tested it internally, but you can help us here too!
This is one of things to be included in Qubes 3.2.1.

[1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-24-to-25/

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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[qubes-devel] Improvement to Qubes PDF Converter

2017-07-13 Thread Micah Lee
The Qubes PDF Converter is excellent, but there are two annoying things
about the final trusted PDF: the file size can be enormous, and you lose
the text layer.

For example, I have a 133 page PDF that doesn't contain any images, but
has lots of text. The original file is 2.1mb. After I convert it into a
trusted PDF, the final trusted PDF is 40.9mb. (And none of the text is
searchable.)

If I use a tool called shrinkpdf [1], which is just a simple wrapper
around ghostscript, I can reduce that filesize to 23.3mb. Since the
40.9mb PDF at this point is already trusted, there's no danger is
running it through gs without using another dispvm. I think it would be
great if this step (or something similar) were built-in to Qubes PDF
Converter, so that all final trusted PDFs are compressed.

At some point in the future, it would also be awesome if the final
trusted PDF could be fed through something like tesseract-ocr to OCR it
and add a text layer back to the PDF. But I think that's a bigger
project, and compressing the PDF would be a nice first addition.

[1] http://www.alfredklomp.com/programming/shrinkpdf/

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