[qubes-users] Fedora 31 ?

2020-05-02 Thread anon



thank you for your reply, not sure what I'm doing wrong if it is there?  
maybe I don't have the correct repos?  where-ever it is that dom0 stores 
those?


I've had successful dom0 updates over the last month, btw, from the widget


@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-31
Using sys-firewall as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may 
take some time...

Last metadata expiration check: 1 day, 9:07:55 ago on .
No match for argument: qubes-template-fedora-31
Error: Unable to find a match: qubes-template-fedora-31



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Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 31 ?

2020-05-02 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves

On 2020-05-02 22:49, anon wrote:

I'm not so sure its me.  I've been around, think I know the basics

am not seeing it


@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep fedora
qubes-template-fedora-30-4.0.1-201906241949.noarch



What you're seeing are the installed packages in dom0.

You have to pull the template from the repository with the command

dom0$ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-31

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[qubes-users] Fedora 31 ?

2020-05-02 Thread anon

I'm not so sure its me.  I've been around, think I know the basics

am not seeing it


@dom0 ~]$ rpm -qa |grep fedora
qubes-template-fedora-30-4.0.1-201906241949.noarch

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Re: Solved: [qubes-users] external CD writer

2020-05-02 Thread dhorf-hfref . 4a288f10
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 11:01:06PM +0200, Olaf Klinke wrote:

> I presume dom0 did not recognize the drive as a USB device and hence
> refuses to attach as such? `qvm-usb` yields the empty list. 

oh right, you just came full circle:
attaching USB devices is not going to work without a usbVM.


> The only remaining question is: Did I buy a shitty drive or will any
> external CD writer behave this way? 

no, you just dont have your qubes setup properly.
once you have a sys-usb ... qvm-usb should work just fine.

for how to do that: see other thread. :P 



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Solved: [qubes-users] external CD writer

2020-05-02 Thread Olaf Klinke
On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 09:44 +0200, dhorf-hfref.4a288...@hashmail.org
wrote:
> On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 01:23:53AM +0200, Olaf Klinke wrote:
> > just lacking the knowledge how different writing to a CD is from
> > reading from CD, on the hardware level. Is there more to burning a
> > CD
> > than a single block special device?
> 
> try attaching it as a USB-device instead of a block device.
> meaning "qvm-usb instead of qvm-block".
Thanks a lot, that might be the bit I was missing. Unfortunately qvm-
device does not seem to list any devices that are not attached to a VM,
so I have difficulties identifying the right name to use. When I attach
the drive to , 
`qvm-device block list --all` yields 
dom0:sr0  SDRW-08U7M ()  (read-only=yes, frontend-dev=xvdi)
After detaching, then trying
`qvm-device usb attach --verbose  dom0:sr0` yields
qvm-device: error: backend vm 'dom0' doesn't expose device 'sr0'

I presume dom0 did not recognize the drive as a USB device and hence
refuses to attach as such? `qvm-usb` yields the empty list. 

The usb-devices documentation recommends (or rather, lists as option)
to attach the PCI USB controller holding the external drive to a qube.
Following the procedure indeed results in brasero recognizing the drive
as writer. Thanks! 
The only remaining question is: Did I buy a shitty drive or will any
external CD writer behave this way? 

Olaf

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Re: [qubes-users] fedora-31 not in repo yet?

2020-05-02 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves

On 2020-05-02 20:19, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves wrote:


You have to install the template using

dom0$ qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-31


Correction:

dom0$ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-31

Sorry


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Re: [qubes-users] fedora-31 not in repo yet?

2020-05-02 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves

On 2020-05-02 20:06, yreb wrote:

is is me or  not sure why i'm not seeing the  fed-31 in the repo ; i did do a 
qubes-dom0-update

i know in the past sometimes the announcement precedes sometimes quite a few 
days before things are in the repo so maybe its Not me?



It's you :-)

You have to install the template using

dom0$ qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-31

and after that shutdown every qube, switch to the new Fedora TemplateVM 
(Qube Manager > Manage templates for qubes (System menu)) and restart 
every qube.


Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Miguel

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[qubes-users] fedora-31 not in repo yet?

2020-05-02 Thread yreb
is is me or  not sure why i'm not seeing the  fed-31 in the repo ; i did do a 
qubes-dom0-update 

i know in the past sometimes the announcement precedes sometimes quite a few 
days before things are in the repo so maybe its Not me? 

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Re: [qubes-users] Hallo, wer von der Qubes Gruppe spricht hier deutsch? Bitte melde dich!

2020-05-02 Thread Olaf Klinke
On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 16:41 +0100, unman wrote:
> On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 08:03:29AM -0700, Caroline Villinger wrote:
> >  
> > 
> > Hallo, 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > wer von der Qubes Gruppe spricht hier deutsch? 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Bitte melde dich!
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Gibt es auch in Deutschland eine Qubes Forum, denn ich m??chte von
> > Windows 
> > 10 wegkommen und in Qubes einsteigen, jedoch spreche ich
> > haupts??chlich 
> > deutsch!
> > 
> > Gibt es in Deutschland auch eine Qubes Veranstaltung?
> > 
> > Wenn ja, wo ist was geplant?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> 
> Sorry to reply in English. I'm sure the German speakers here will
> come
> in.
> 
> There's no problem with posting to this list in German, and there are
> German speakers here.
> Bear in mind that many list users *don't* speak German so it would be
> helpful to post a summary in English if possible, if a problem has
> been
> raised and solved.
> 
> Stay Safe
> 
By the way, is there an i18n effort for Qubes? The dom0 menu does not
seem to have any settings regarding language. I can not find anything
related on github. If there is an i18n effort I'd like to help out. If
no, how would one go about it? 

Olaf


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[qubes-users] Re: Hallo, wer von der Qubes Gruppe spricht hier deutsch? Bitte melde dich!

2020-05-02 Thread _DRX_
Hallo,

wenn du Fragen hast kannst du die gerne an mich stellen.

Am besten mit der Funktion "dem Autor antworten" im Dropdown Menü

Grüße

Am Samstag, 2. Mai 2020 17:03:29 UTC+2 schrieb Caroline Villinger:
>
> Hallo, 
>
>  
>
> wer von der Qubes Gruppe spricht hier deutsch? 
>
>  
>
> Bitte melde dich!
>
>  
>
> Gibt es auch in Deutschland eine Qubes Forum, denn ich möchte von Windows 
> 10 wegkommen und in Qubes einsteigen, jedoch spreche ich hauptsächlich 
> deutsch!
>
> Gibt es in Deutschland auch eine Qubes Veranstaltung?
>
> Wenn ja, wo ist was geplant?
>
>  
>

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Re: [qubes-users] Hallo, wer von der Qubes Gruppe spricht hier deutsch? Bitte melde dich!

2020-05-02 Thread unman
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 08:03:29AM -0700, Caroline Villinger wrote:
>  
> 
> Hallo, 
> 
>  
> 
> wer von der Qubes Gruppe spricht hier deutsch? 
> 
>  
> 
> Bitte melde dich!
> 
>  
> 
> Gibt es auch in Deutschland eine Qubes Forum, denn ich m??chte von Windows 
> 10 wegkommen und in Qubes einsteigen, jedoch spreche ich haupts??chlich 
> deutsch!
> 
> Gibt es in Deutschland auch eine Qubes Veranstaltung?
> 
> Wenn ja, wo ist was geplant?
> 
>  
> 

Sorry to reply in English. I'm sure the German speakers here will come
in.

There's no problem with posting to this list in German, and there are
German speakers here.
Bear in mind that many list users *don't* speak German so it would be
helpful to post a summary in English if possible, if a problem has been
raised and solved.

Stay Safe

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[qubes-users] Hallo, wer von der Qubes Gruppe spricht hier deutsch? Bitte melde dich!

2020-05-02 Thread Caroline Villinger
 

Hallo, 

 

wer von der Qubes Gruppe spricht hier deutsch? 

 

Bitte melde dich!

 

Gibt es auch in Deutschland eine Qubes Forum, denn ich möchte von Windows 
10 wegkommen und in Qubes einsteigen, jedoch spreche ich hauptsächlich 
deutsch!

Gibt es in Deutschland auch eine Qubes Veranstaltung?

Wenn ja, wo ist was geplant?

 

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Re: [qubes-users] Dividing Qubes Into Separate Networks (FAILED)

2020-05-02 Thread unman
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 10:05:52AM +0200, dhorf-hfref.4a288...@hashmail.org 
wrote:
> On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 03:14:42AM +, 'Zsolt Bicskey' via qubes-users 
> wrote:
> 
> > > Set the VLAN correctly?
> > yes, as I said if I connect a Windows latptop it works right away
> > > Set all parameters necessary to satisfy any port security on the switch?
> > Yes, same answer as above
> 
> actualy, those are not "answers" at all.
> there is nothing in this description confirming you know how to
> configure a network interface under linux.
> 
> since you confirmed the second port is working in general, this
> is unlikely to be a qubes problem. 
> may be a whatever-your-netvm-distro-is problem.
> or more likely, a configuration problem.
> 
> try booting whatever the distro in your netvm is off a USB stick
> or dvd (== without xen involved), and get the right network 
> interface to work on the right port with that.
> then copy over the interface configuration to your netvm. 
> 

This.

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Re: [qubes-users] Me (anon-whonix AppVM) -> Tor -> VPN, settup with Mullvad VPN

2020-05-02 Thread unman
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 08:22:57AM +, taran1s wrote:
> 
> 
> unman:
> > On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 11:54:27AM +, taran1s wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> taran1s:
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Chris, I tried now to connect to the kraken.com, which seems to be tor
> >> unfriendly through me->tor->VPN->kraken.com but it returns error on the
> >> site "Disabled".
> >>
> >> I learned now that despite I use the above connection model, using VPN
> >> as an exit, I still exit from the tor exit not and not from the VPN. I
> >> am not sure what broke.
> >>
> > 
> > If I understand your model: me->tor->VPN->kraken.com 
> > you are running Tor *through* your VPN - this means that your service
> > provider sees your connection to the VPN, and your VPN provider sees
> > your connection to the first Tor hop.
> > Naturally, when you exit the VPN and set up the TOR circuit, it's a Tor
> > exit node that connects to kraken.
> > The VPN is NOT an exit in this model. Nothing has broken.
> > 
> 
> I am actually using mullvad VPN. The idea is to have the possibility to
> access websites or services (like kraken.com) that are not tor-friendly.
> I would like to connect first to Tor through sys-whonix than connect to
> the VPN through VPN AppVM and from that VPN to connect to the clearnet.
> 
> I set the AppVMs networking following way: anon-whonix networking  set
> to -> sys-whonix networking set to -> VPN-AppVM proxy that connects to
> the clearnet. Is that right for my model?
> 
No.
Think about it.
anon-whonix creates a request.
sys-whonix takes that request, and builds a circuit.
VPN-AppVM sees the traffic to the first hop, and sends it down the VPN.
The VPN provider gets the Tor traffic, and sends it on to the first
hop.
Then it goes via Tor to the exit node and then to the target.
Your ISP sees traffic to the VPN; the VPN provider sees traffic from you
going to Tor; the target sees traffic coming from Tor network.

*Always* use check.torproject.org to confirm your exit IP in this sort of
case (always) so that actual matches expectations.

What you have built (in packet terms) is:
me - Tor - VPN - target.

What you seem to want is:
me - VPN - Tor - target

To do that you need to build the VPN traffic and send it down a Tor
circuit.
Your Qubes network configuration should be:
client - VPN qube - Tor qube - sys-firewall - sys-net

I have no idea if Whonix  will let you do this.

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] How to mount App-VMs from Outside qubes

2020-05-02 Thread Dieter


On 02.05.20 10:54, David Hobach wrote:
> On 5/1/20 6:53 PM, dhorf-hfref.4a288...@hashmail.org wrote:
>> On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 06:18:10PM +0200, Dieter wrote:
>>> I tried accessing data on an old qubes (3.2) drive that doesnt boot
>>
>>> However after decryption I only see the lvms "qubes_dom0-swap" and
>>> "qubes_dom0-root"
>>
>>> reading from dom0 is no problem but how can I access the other VMs?
>>
>>
>> mount the dom0 root volume
>> check for .img files under /var/lib/qubes/
>>
>> these are loop-mountable volumes
>
> Doesn't that depend on the storage pool being used? Your instructions
> should be valid for file storage pools.
>
> However with Qubes 4 LVM thin storage pools became the default. You
> should be able to find instructions on this forum; there's also [1]
> describing how to do it from dom0.
>
> [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/mount-lvm-image/

Its a Qubes 3.2 drive.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 30 approaching EOL, Fedora 31 TemplateVM available, Fedora 32 TemplateVM in testing

2020-05-02 Thread dhorf-hfref . 4a288f10


> was really unrisky and straightforward scripting, why did the Qubes OS
> installer not offer this choice, let alone just do it? 

a mix of historic reasons and expecting users to do their homework.

without a sys-usb, you can not really use usb devices with qubes.
and _trying_ to use them will connect them to dom0, which is a decent
sized can of worms.
as in: usb keyboard is bad. no sys-usb is worse.

and yes, it might be time to change what the installer does when seeing
a usb keyboard.



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Re: [qubes-users] How to mount App-VMs from Outside qubes

2020-05-02 Thread David Hobach

On 5/1/20 6:53 PM, dhorf-hfref.4a288...@hashmail.org wrote:

On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 06:18:10PM +0200, Dieter wrote:

I tried accessing data on an old qubes (3.2) drive that doesnt boot



However after decryption I only see the lvms "qubes_dom0-swap" and
"qubes_dom0-root"



reading from dom0 is no problem but how can I access the other VMs?



mount the dom0 root volume
check for .img files under /var/lib/qubes/

these are loop-mountable volumes


Doesn't that depend on the storage pool being used? Your instructions 
should be valid for file storage pools.


However with Qubes 4 LVM thin storage pools became the default. You 
should be able to find instructions on this forum; there's also [1] 
describing how to do it from dom0.


[1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/mount-lvm-image/

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 30 approaching EOL, Fedora 31 TemplateVM available, Fedora 32 TemplateVM in testing

2020-05-02 Thread Olaf Klinke
On Fri, 2020-05-01 at 21:24 -0700, seshu wrote:
> @Miguel  thanks!
> 
> and thanks to everyone who provided feedback, this was really
> educational 
> for me. I'm not quite a qubes newbie, but I'm not an expert either. 
> 
> The idea from Brend was too sophisticated for me and so I was nervous
> about 
> it. I decided to go with Miguel's approach and that was great. One
> change 
> though. The qvm-stop is now qvm-shutdown, so the instructions I
> needed to 
> use are:
> 
> $ qvm-shutdown --wait sys-usb; \ 
> qvm-prefs sys-usb template fedora-31; \ 
> qvm-start sys-usb 
> 
> it all work quick and painlessly. This really should be added to the 
> instructions for updating a templateVM.  I'll see if I can add that
> into 
> the documentation.
> 
> Thanks again everyone!
> 
That's good to know. I shall complete this into a script that reverts
the change if anything goes wrong. 

Sven wrote:
> So make sure to remove those from your grub/EFI config before
> rebooting!
> The USB qube will work anyway but if it's not running dom0 will have
> USB. If you skip this step you won't be able to control your computer
> after reboot.
> 
> We have a tragic case of this every other month in this list.

Hearing this, I will postpone following dhorf's advice to create a sys-
usb until I am more familiar with the inner workings of Qubes OS. If it
was really unrisky and straightforward scripting, why did the Qubes OS
installer not offer this choice, let alone just do it? 

Olaf

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Re: [qubes-users] Me (anon-whonix AppVM) -> Tor -> VPN, settup with Mullvad VPN

2020-05-02 Thread taran1s


unman:
> On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 11:54:27AM +, taran1s wrote:
>>
>>
>> taran1s:
>>>
>>>
>> Chris, I tried now to connect to the kraken.com, which seems to be tor
>> unfriendly through me->tor->VPN->kraken.com but it returns error on the
>> site "Disabled".
>>
>> I learned now that despite I use the above connection model, using VPN
>> as an exit, I still exit from the tor exit not and not from the VPN. I
>> am not sure what broke.
>>
> 
> If I understand your model: me->tor->VPN->kraken.com 
> you are running Tor *through* your VPN - this means that your service
> provider sees your connection to the VPN, and your VPN provider sees
> your connection to the first Tor hop.
> Naturally, when you exit the VPN and set up the TOR circuit, it's a Tor
> exit node that connects to kraken.
> The VPN is NOT an exit in this model. Nothing has broken.
> 

I am actually using mullvad VPN. The idea is to have the possibility to
access websites or services (like kraken.com) that are not tor-friendly.
I would like to connect first to Tor through sys-whonix than connect to
the VPN through VPN AppVM and from that VPN to connect to the clearnet.

I set the AppVMs networking following way: anon-whonix networking  set
to -> sys-whonix networking set to -> VPN-AppVM proxy that connects to
the clearnet. Is that right for my model?

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Re: [qubes-users] Dividing Qubes Into Separate Networks (FAILED)

2020-05-02 Thread dhorf-hfref . 4a288f10
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 03:14:42AM +, 'Zsolt Bicskey' via qubes-users wrote:

> > Set the VLAN correctly?
> yes, as I said if I connect a Windows latptop it works right away
> > Set all parameters necessary to satisfy any port security on the switch?
> Yes, same answer as above

actualy, those are not "answers" at all.
there is nothing in this description confirming you know how to
configure a network interface under linux.

since you confirmed the second port is working in general, this
is unlikely to be a qubes problem. 
may be a whatever-your-netvm-distro-is problem.
or more likely, a configuration problem.

try booting whatever the distro in your netvm is off a USB stick
or dvd (== without xen involved), and get the right network 
interface to work on the right port with that.
then copy over the interface configuration to your netvm. 




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Re: [qubes-users] external CD writer

2020-05-02 Thread dhorf-hfref . 4a288f10
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 01:23:53AM +0200, Olaf Klinke wrote:
> just lacking the knowledge how different writing to a CD is from
> reading from CD, on the hardware level. Is there more to burning a CD
> than a single block special device?

try attaching it as a USB-device instead of a block device.
meaning "qvm-usb instead of qvm-block".
or "lower part instead of upper part of the device widget".




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