Re: [qubes-users] Can hardly run anything? every dom0 command results in Errrno2?

2020-10-07 Thread Frank


> On 8. Oct 2020, at 07:02, Frank wrote:
>>> On 7. Oct 2020, at 20:52, Stumpy stumpy-at-posteo.co wrote:
>>> On 2020-10-07 21:13, Stumpy wrote:
>>> On 2020-10-06 19:12, Frank wrote:
> On 6. Oct 2020, at 13:53, Stumpy stumpy-at-posteo.co wrote:
> On 2020-10-06 10:46, Frank wrote:
> On 5. Oct 2020, at 16:16, Stumpy stumpy-at-posteo.co wrote:
 My computer actiing strange like some appvms not opening so i
 decided to restart and restarted normally and booted back up fine
 except now i can hardly open anything. Appvms will not start, I
 tried to do a backup from dom0 term and that gave me an error, tried
 to run qubes-qube-manager and that gave me a similar error [1]...
 I'm at a loss. Of course I just finished doing some important work
 and didnt immediately backp (usually bkup weekly).
 I am not thrilled about reinstalling but can do it, but really
 really really want to back up my appvms before nuking everything. If
 i cant use the regular backup is there a way i can just copy things?
 I think I can still mount an external drive...
>>> This should give you all the information necessary to get your data
>>> saved:
>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/mount-from-other-os/
>>> Regards, Frank
>> Thank you, I didnt notice that.
>> I dont suppose you have any thoughts on the error that seems to be 
>> borking my system?
 I fear I don’t... but isn’t errno 2 something like „file not found“?
 So it smells like dom0 is having problems getting everything mounted
 where it belongs - either because the file system is screwed or LVM is
 having some problems.
 In any case, I’d be backing up whatever I could get my hands on and
 then reinstall...
>>> Ok so on the mount from other os page its not totally clear for me.
>>> I do have a barebones qubes system on another computer (laptop), so
>>> would/should I take my ssd from my desktop connect it (have an adapter
>>> cable) to my laptop then "pass" the whole disk to an isolated appvm?
>>> If yes, then,,, what is meant by passing the disk to an appvm
>>> (copying?) and when it says isolated appvm does that just mean, in my
>>> case, an appvm on my laptop? Lastly, as my laptop drive is smaller
>>> than my desktop drive, would I be able to selectively copy/mount to my
>>> laptop appvm or would I need to go another route?
>> 
>> btw, on my desktop, I am still able to access a dom0 terminal and can 
>> connect to an external drive (I think), so can i just cp the appvms to an 
>> external drive and then extract the contents of the critical appvms?
> 
> Well in that case you can do the following in a dom0 terminal (assuming the 
> name of your AppVM you want to get files from is my-appvm):
> 
> # create a mount point to access the disk:
> 
> sudo mkdir /mnt/private
> 
> # make the private volume of the appvm accessible !!! notice the doubling of 
> the dash in the AppVMs name (naturally not applicable if your AppVMs name 
> does not contain a dash) !!!
> 
> sudo losetup -f —show /dev/mapper/qubes_dom0-vm—my—appvm—private
> 
> # use the loop device the last command printed to the screen (i.e. 
> /dev/loop2) to mount the AppVMs private volume
> 
> sudo mount /dev/loop2 /mnt/private
> 
> # now you should be able to copy whatever data you want to save
> 
> cp /mnt/private/home/user/* /some/place/save/

And for the sake of completeness, after you are done copying, do

# unmounting the disk

sudo umount /mnt/private

# detaching the loop device

sudo losetup -d /dev/loop2

(and don’t forget: /dev/loop2 in the above commands is only an example! You 
have to use whatever the first losetup command is printing to the screen 
instead!)

> 
> Hope that works out for you!
> 
> Regards, Frank

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Re: [qubes-users] Can hardly run anything? every dom0 command results in Errrno2?

2020-10-07 Thread Frank


> On 7. Oct 2020, at 20:52, Stumpy stumpy-at-posteo.co wrote:
> 
> On 2020-10-07 21:13, Stumpy wrote:
>> On 2020-10-06 19:12, Frank wrote:
 On 6. Oct 2020, at 13:53, Stumpy stumpy-at-posteo.co wrote:
 On 2020-10-06 10:46, Frank wrote:
 On 5. Oct 2020, at 16:16, Stumpy stumpy-at-posteo.co wrote:
>>> My computer actiing strange like some appvms not opening so i
>>> decided to restart and restarted normally and booted back up fine
>>> except now i can hardly open anything. Appvms will not start, I
>>> tried to do a backup from dom0 term and that gave me an error, tried
>>> to run qubes-qube-manager and that gave me a similar error [1]...
>>> I'm at a loss. Of course I just finished doing some important work
>>> and didnt immediately backp (usually bkup weekly).
>>> I am not thrilled about reinstalling but can do it, but really
>>> really really want to back up my appvms before nuking everything. If
>>> i cant use the regular backup is there a way i can just copy things?
>>> I think I can still mount an external drive...
>> This should give you all the information necessary to get your data
>> saved:
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/mount-from-other-os/
>> Regards, Frank
> Thank you, I didnt notice that.
> I dont suppose you have any thoughts on the error that seems to be 
> borking my system?
>>> I fear I don’t... but isn’t errno 2 something like „file not found“?
>>> So it smells like dom0 is having problems getting everything mounted
>>> where it belongs - either because the file system is screwed or LVM is
>>> having some problems.
>>> In any case, I’d be backing up whatever I could get my hands on and
>>> then reinstall...
>> Ok so on the mount from other os page its not totally clear for me.
>> I do have a barebones qubes system on another computer (laptop), so
>> would/should I take my ssd from my desktop connect it (have an adapter
>> cable) to my laptop then "pass" the whole disk to an isolated appvm?
>> If yes, then,,, what is meant by passing the disk to an appvm
>> (copying?) and when it says isolated appvm does that just mean, in my
>> case, an appvm on my laptop? Lastly, as my laptop drive is smaller
>> than my desktop drive, would I be able to selectively copy/mount to my
>> laptop appvm or would I need to go another route?
> 
> btw, on my desktop, I am still able to access a dom0 terminal and can connect 
> to an external drive (I think), so can i just cp the appvms to an external 
> drive and then extract the contents of the critical appvms?

Well in that case you can do the following in a dom0 terminal (assuming the 
name of your AppVM you want to get files from is my-appvm):

# create a mount point to access the disk:

sudo mkdir /mnt/private

# make the private volume of the appvm accessible !!! notice the doubling of 
the dash in the AppVMs name (naturally not applicable if your AppVMs name does 
not contain a dash) !!!

sudo losetup -f —show /dev/mapper/qubes_dom0-vm—my—appvm—private

# use the loop device the last command printed to the screen (i.e. /dev/loop2) 
to mount the AppVMs private volume

sudo mount /dev/loop2 /mnt/private

# now you should be able to copy whatever data you want to save

cp /mnt/private/home/user/* /some/place/save/

Hope that works out for you!

Regards, Frank

> 
> Sorry, the mount from other os page is a bit over my head hence my attempting 
> to find options that I can understand :/

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Re: [qubes-users] Can hardly run anything? every dom0 command results in Errrno2?

2020-10-07 Thread Jarrah


>> Ok so on the mount from other os page its not totally clear for me.
>>
>> I do have a barebones qubes system on another computer (laptop), so
>> would/should I take my ssd from my desktop connect it (have an adapter
>> cable) to my laptop then "pass" the whole disk to an isolated appvm?

Yes, this is the idea. Using `qvm-block a  ` or the
equivalent GUI widget.
>> If yes, then,,, what is meant by passing the disk to an appvm
>> (copying?) and when it says isolated appvm does that just mean, in my
>> case, an appvm on my laptop? 

Isolated was added because at this point, your AppVM is receiving the
same level of trust as your desktop Dom0. So don't do this is your
internet connected untrusted VM.
>> Lastly, as my laptop drive is smaller
>> than my desktop drive, would I be able to selectively copy/mount to my
>> laptop appvm or would I need to go another route?

When copying data off you would need a drive of that capacity, but to
mount, see files and modify them, there is no copying, it's all done on
the original drive.
>
> btw, on my desktop, I am still able to access a dom0 terminal and can
> connect to an external drive (I think), so can i just cp the appvms to
> an external drive and then extract the contents of the critical appvms?

By default the AppVMs are LVM volumes, making it a bit hard to just copy
them. If it still works, the Qubes backup tool would be the easiest way
to do this. Otherwise, "isolated AppVM" is interchangeable with dom0.
You could mount them and pull off your files manually, though this may
compromise Dom0 with anything untrusted in the AppVMs.
>
> Sorry, the mount from other os page is a bit over my head hence my
> attempting to find options that I can understand :/

Maybe once this is sorted, we could use this thread to improve that
document.

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[qubes-users] Re: Announcement: "Qubes OS contributed packages are now available" by Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

2020-10-07 Thread evado...@gmail.com
Nice! 
P.S. old version of qubes-screenshot-tool in repo. There is already next 
version available.

вторник, 6 октября 2020 г. в 01:00:35 UTC, a...@qubes-os.org: 

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
>
> Dear Qubes Community,
>
> Marek has just published the following announcement:
>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2020/10/05/qubes-os-contributed-packages/
>
> The plain text of this announcement is reproduced below.
>
> ==
>
> "Qubes OS contributed packages are now available"
> by Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
>
> We are happy to announce the availability of Qubes OS contributed packages 
> under the [QubesOS-contrib] GitHub Project. This is a place where our 
> community can [contribute Qubes OS related packages, additions and various 
> customizations][package-contrib]. Meanwhile, we provide the infrastructure 
> and [review process] necessary to make them available easily and safely to 
> users within standard Qubes installations.
>
> [Frédéric Pierret] built the infrastructure based on a similar setup for 
> building official packages. This means that it features the same [Qubes 
> build security] measures, including keeping the signing keys separate in a 
> dedicated VM, downloading packages over Tor, publishing build logs in a 
> non-spoofable way and more. Frédéric is also the maintainer of 
> [QubesOS-contrib].
> The source code repositories of the packages and infrastructure-related 
> parts are also hosted under [QubesOS-contrib].
>
> To contribute a package, follow the process described at [package 
> contributions]. You will find a few helpful tips there, including a 
> [skeleton repository] with example RPM packaging and [Qubes Builder] 
> integration.
> Since the project has been running for some time already, there are 
> already some submitted packages available there. To name a few:
>
> - [qubes-tunnel]
> - [qvm-screenshot-tool]
> - [qmenu]
>
> You can find the full list at [QubesOS-contrib].
>
> If you want to install one of these packages, first you need to enable the 
> repository in your system (dom0 and/or templates). This can be done by 
> installing the `qubes-repo-contrib` package. This package includes the 
> repository definition and keys necessary to download, verify, and install 
> [QubesOS-contrib] packages.
>
> In dom0, use `qubes-dom0-update`:
>
> sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-repo-contrib
>
> In a Fedora-based template, use `dnf`:
>
> sudo dnf install qubes-repo-contrib
>
> In a Debian-based template, use `apt`:
>
> sudo apt update && sudo apt install qubes-repo-contrib
>
>
> [QubesOS-contrib]: https://github.com/QubesOS-contrib/
> [package-contrib]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/package-contributions/
> [review process]: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/package-contributions/#review-procedure
> [Frédéric Pierret]: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/team/#fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric-pierret
> [Qubes build security]: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/05/30/build-security/
> [package contributions]: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/package-contributions/
> [skeleton repository]: https://github.com/QubesOS-contrib/qubes-skeleton/
> [Qubes Builder]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-builder/
> [qubes-tunnel]: https://github.com/QubesOS-contrib/qubes-tunnel
> [qvm-screenshot-tool]: 
> https://github.com/QubesOS-contrib/qvm-screenshot-tool
> [qmenu]: https://github.com/QubesOS-contrib/qmenu
>
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Re: [qubes-users] Can hardly run anything? every dom0 command results in Errrno2?

2020-10-07 Thread Stumpy

On 2020-10-07 21:13, Stumpy wrote:

On 2020-10-06 19:12, Frank wrote:

On 6. Oct 2020, at 13:53, Stumpy stumpy-at-posteo.co wrote:

On 2020-10-06 10:46, Frank wrote:

On 5. Oct 2020, at 16:16, Stumpy stumpy-at-posteo.co wrote:

My computer actiing strange like some appvms not opening so i
decided to restart and restarted normally and booted back up fine
except now i can hardly open anything. Appvms will not start, I
tried to do a backup from dom0 term and that gave me an error, 
tried

to run qubes-qube-manager and that gave me a similar error [1]...
I'm at a loss. Of course I just finished doing some important work
and didnt immediately backp (usually bkup weekly).
I am not thrilled about reinstalling but can do it, but really
really really want to back up my appvms before nuking everything. 
If
i cant use the regular backup is there a way i can just copy 
things?

I think I can still mount an external drive...

This should give you all the information necessary to get your data
saved:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/mount-from-other-os/
Regards, Frank



Thank you, I didnt notice that.
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on the error that seems to be 
borking my system?


I fear I don’t... but isn’t errno 2 something like „file not found“?
So it smells like dom0 is having problems getting everything mounted
where it belongs - either because the file system is screwed or LVM is
having some problems.

In any case, I’d be backing up whatever I could get my hands on and
then reinstall...


Ok so on the mount from other os page its not totally clear for me.

I do have a barebones qubes system on another computer (laptop), so
would/should I take my ssd from my desktop connect it (have an adapter
cable) to my laptop then "pass" the whole disk to an isolated appvm?
If yes, then,,, what is meant by passing the disk to an appvm
(copying?) and when it says isolated appvm does that just mean, in my
case, an appvm on my laptop? Lastly, as my laptop drive is smaller
than my desktop drive, would I be able to selectively copy/mount to my
laptop appvm or would I need to go another route?


btw, on my desktop, I am still able to access a dom0 terminal and can 
connect to an external drive (I think), so can i just cp the appvms to 
an external drive and then extract the contents of the critical appvms?


Sorry, the mount from other os page is a bit over my head hence my 
attempting to find options that I can understand :/


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Re: [qubes-users] Can hardly run anything? every dom0 command results in Errrno2?

2020-10-07 Thread Stumpy

On 2020-10-06 19:12, Frank wrote:

On 6. Oct 2020, at 13:53, Stumpy stumpy-at-posteo.co wrote:

On 2020-10-06 10:46, Frank wrote:

On 5. Oct 2020, at 16:16, Stumpy stumpy-at-posteo.co wrote:

My computer actiing strange like some appvms not opening so i
decided to restart and restarted normally and booted back up fine
except now i can hardly open anything. Appvms will not start, I
tried to do a backup from dom0 term and that gave me an error, tried
to run qubes-qube-manager and that gave me a similar error [1]...
I'm at a loss. Of course I just finished doing some important work
and didnt immediately backp (usually bkup weekly).
I am not thrilled about reinstalling but can do it, but really
really really want to back up my appvms before nuking everything. If
i cant use the regular backup is there a way i can just copy things?
I think I can still mount an external drive...

This should give you all the information necessary to get your data
saved:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/mount-from-other-os/
Regards, Frank



Thank you, I didnt notice that.
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on the error that seems to be 
borking my system?


I fear I don’t... but isn’t errno 2 something like „file not found“?
So it smells like dom0 is having problems getting everything mounted
where it belongs - either because the file system is screwed or LVM is
having some problems.

In any case, I’d be backing up whatever I could get my hands on and
then reinstall...


Ok so on the mount from other os page its not totally clear for me.

I do have a barebones qubes system on another computer (laptop), so 
would/should I take my ssd from my desktop connect it (have an adapter 
cable) to my laptop then "pass" the whole disk to an isolated appvm? If 
yes, then,,, what is meant by passing the disk to an appvm (copying?) 
and when it says isolated appvm does that just mean, in my case, an 
appvm on my laptop? Lastly, as my laptop drive is smaller than my 
desktop drive, would I be able to selectively copy/mount to my laptop 
appvm or would I need to go another route?


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Updated Split GPG documentation for Thunderbird 78

2020-10-07 Thread Andrew David Wong

On 10/7/20 3:56 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

On 10/7/20 3:47 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

On 10/7/20 3:46 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

Hi all,

Many of us have recently upgraded to Thunderbird 78, which changes 
the way OpenPGP keys are handled. Thanks to Frédéric, the Split GPG 
documentation was updated a little over a week ago with detailed new 
instructions, including a full screenshot walk-through, for how to 
use Split GPG with Thunderbird 78 and higher. If you haven't already 
seen it, take a look:


https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/split-gpg/#using-thunderbird



By the way, if anyone figures out how to automatically sign all 
emails, please let me know. :)




Answering my own question:

Account Settings -> End-To-End Encryption -> Default settings for 
sending messages -> [x] Add my digital signature by default


There's also an option here to require encryption by default.

However, I don't see an option to use inline signatures for 
compatibility with our mailing lists.




Found this:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:OpenPGP:Status

> -- unknown schedule --
> [...]
> sending an INLINE cleartext signed message without attachments (we 
don't intend to support sending other kinds of inline OpenPGP messages)


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[qubes-users] Re: Updated Split GPG documentation for Thunderbird 78

2020-10-07 Thread Andrew David Wong

On 10/7/20 3:47 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

On 10/7/20 3:46 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

Hi all,

Many of us have recently upgraded to Thunderbird 78, which changes the 
way OpenPGP keys are handled. Thanks to Frédéric, the Split GPG 
documentation was updated a little over a week ago with detailed new 
instructions, including a full screenshot walk-through, for how to use 
Split GPG with Thunderbird 78 and higher. If you haven't already seen 
it, take a look:


https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/split-gpg/#using-thunderbird



By the way, if anyone figures out how to automatically sign all emails, 
please let me know. :)




Answering my own question:

Account Settings -> End-To-End Encryption -> Default settings for 
sending messages -> [x] Add my digital signature by default


There's also an option here to require encryption by default.

However, I don't see an option to use inline signatures for 
compatibility with our mailing lists.


Ok, I'm going to stop replying to both lists at the same time now.

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[qubes-users] Re: Updated Split GPG documentation for Thunderbird 78

2020-10-07 Thread Andrew David Wong

On 10/7/20 3:46 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

Hi all,

Many of us have recently upgraded to Thunderbird 78, which changes the 
way OpenPGP keys are handled. Thanks to Frédéric, the Split GPG 
documentation was updated a little over a week ago with detailed new 
instructions, including a full screenshot walk-through, for how to use 
Split GPG with Thunderbird 78 and higher. If you haven't already seen 
it, take a look:


https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/split-gpg/#using-thunderbird



By the way, if anyone figures out how to automatically sign all emails, 
please let me know. :)


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[qubes-users] Updated Split GPG documentation for Thunderbird 78

2020-10-07 Thread Andrew David Wong

Hi all,

Many of us have recently upgraded to Thunderbird 78, which changes the 
way OpenPGP keys are handled. Thanks to Frédéric, the Split GPG 
documentation was updated a little over a week ago with detailed new 
instructions, including a full screenshot walk-through, for how to use 
Split GPG with Thunderbird 78 and higher. If you haven't already seen 
it, take a look:


https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/split-gpg/#using-thunderbird

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org


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