Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 connectivity for maintenance

2018-02-28 Thread Braden
On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 12:50:23 PM UTC-5, Unman wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 09:48:43AM -0800, Yuraeitha wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 6:38:49 PM UTC+1, Unman wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 08:52:07AM -0800, Braden wrote:
> > > > Performing some modifications to dom0, but when I run apps like wget 
> > > > from dom0 terminal I am unable to resolve addresses. Same if I were to 
> > > > try running firefox from dom0. Know this is because of security 
> > > > benefits, but how can I enable networking from there. Say I wanted to 
> > > > connect to dom0 from a vnc temporarily.
> > > > 
> > > There's almost never any need to do this. If you want to install
> > > packages you can use the update mechanism. Otherwise download files in a
> > > qube and then copy them in to dom0 and install them there.
> > > If dom0 is compromised then all your qubes are open.
> > > 
> > > But you probably know this already.
> > > 
> > > As things stand it's difficult, but not impossible to access dom0. You
> > > could open a channel to allow vnc to a qube and use socat and an rpc
> > > service to front to dom0. But really just dont do it: it subverts the
> > > whole point in using Qubes.
> > 
> > btw, isn't it possible that he can use the Qubes 4 dom0 admin features to 
> > make changes to VM's from a remote location? Could the solution be to 
> > upgrade to Qubes 4 and use that instead? I haven't yet went 
> > discovering/understood the limitations of the Qubes 4 dom0 admin tools, but 
> > isn't this a perfect match to his goal if he upgrades? Apologies if I 
> > misunderstood how the dom0 admin features work, I haven't started using it 
> > my self yet.
> > 
> 
> Yes, it is.
> OP could read this post
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2017/06/27/qubes-admin-api/
My hardware is only 3.2 supported rn as you guessed, suppose I could explore 
the unique service idea, is there anything similar on *nix

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Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 connectivity for maintenance

2018-02-28 Thread Braden
On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 12:50:17 PM UTC-5, Braden wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 12:38:49 PM UTC-5, Unman wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 08:52:07AM -0800, Braden wrote:
> > > Performing some modifications to dom0, but when I run apps like wget from 
> > > dom0 terminal I am unable to resolve addresses. Same if I were to try 
> > > running firefox from dom0. Know this is because of security benefits, but 
> > > how can I enable networking from there. Say I wanted to connect to dom0 
> > > from a vnc temporarily.
> > > 
> > There's almost never any need to do this. If you want to install
> > packages you can use the update mechanism. Otherwise download files in a
> > qube and then copy them in to dom0 and install them there.
> > If dom0 is compromised then all your qubes are open.
> > 
> > But you probably know this already.
> > 
> > As things stand it's difficult, but not impossible to access dom0. You
> > could open a channel to allow vnc to a qube and use socat and an rpc
> > service to front to dom0. But really just dont do it: it subverts the
> > whole point in using Qubes.
> 
> Fair enough, suppose will copy the package to dom0 and then install my vnc 
> server there, but would the firewall refuse to allow connections just like 
> how firefox and wget refuse in dom0?

Only need VNC client connections working that is

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[qubes-users] Re: Dom0 connectivity for maintenance

2018-02-28 Thread Braden
On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 12:11:34 PM UTC-5, Yuraeitha wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 5:52:07 PM UTC+1, Braden wrote:
> > Performing some modifications to dom0, but when I run apps like wget from 
> > dom0 terminal I am unable to resolve addresses. Same if I were to try 
> > running firefox from dom0. Know this is because of security benefits, but 
> > how can I enable networking from there. Say I wanted to connect to dom0 
> > from a vnc temporarily.
> 
> I also believe you can just add the extra repository to make dom0 
> install/update in a secure way, without attaching the network directly to 
> dom0. But as mentioned above, first, what is it you actually want to do?

Understandable, I'd need to install a VNC into dom0 so I can easily change hvms 
and appvm settings from work, so how should I go about attaching the network. 

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[qubes-users] Dom0 connectivity for maintenance

2018-02-28 Thread Braden
Performing some modifications to dom0, but when I run apps like wget from dom0 
terminal I am unable to resolve addresses. Same if I were to try running 
firefox from dom0. Know this is because of security benefits, but how can I 
enable networking from there. Say I wanted to connect to dom0 from a vnc 
temporarily.

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