Re: "What does "supported" mean"? was: Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 24 Template for Qubes 3.1?
I tried to upgrade a Qubes 3.1 system to use FC24 a while back, and dnf itself broke badly, stating something about not having a python "Goal", having something to do with the python module missing some feature or module. The template was therefor unusable, since it could not be maintained. I don't have access to that machine right now so I can't give you the exact error message. Because of this the upgrade broke and the system was unable to install or upgrade anything after that, except by using other software installers from KDE/Gnome, but could never get dnf reinstalled/upgraded and happy. Without having access from there to a 3.2 system I was unable to determine what packages needed fixing within dnf to get past that. I tried this several times, and even did some local RPM installs to try and fix dnf, and all attempts failed the same way. I also tried backing up a 3.2 FC24 template and restoring it to that 3.1 machine but 3.1 failed to even start the vm. Obviously I needed to replace the Qubes 3.2 components for it to start as a 3.1 template. That also went nowhere. At this point, upgrading all existing systems to at least FC24 is important since today FC25 just was announced, and therefor FC23 support is ending. If I get time I will be looking at upgrading a Qubes 3.2 template to FC25, unless anyone knows a reason that will not fly? I figure it could not hurt to try. Steve On 11/21/2016 10:25 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 04:45:33PM +0100, Achim Patzner wrote: Am 20.11.2016 um 21:16 schrieb Joonas Lehtonen : Hi, since Qubes 3.1 is supported until 2017-03-29 This is a question I always wanted to ask: What does “support” mean in relation to Qubes? Security fixes? Plus bug fixes? Plus feature upgrades? That's a good question. Surely not major changes in behaviour (new features etc). But for the other two categories I'd say yes. AFAIR there was some major incompatibility in qubes-core-vm package in R3.1 preventing it being fully compatible with Fedora 24 (and requiring a change falling far outside of "bug fixes" category). But after brief test, it looks like my memory fails me (maybe that was about R3.0?) and the only needed thing was replacing tabs with spaces in one file: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-gui-agent-linux/commit/16c98bc7ebebc0c4025ab02ec2e5bbf4dc9a77d2 So, expect Fedora 24 template being supported in R3.1 soon too :) - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYM7qrAAoJENuP0xzK19csMZgH/RryNKJq9wsrnJ9T4djHvSRh HbHvWe+CEfLGnbbO7DIKMrSJr2iJAVcTTuevu4JrI6wSeN48IK5/OzFYqgM6RJiG UFfDCYwM6VnfA5dSIko6XdpZOqFGURJ/ZGDHb+UOMP/CImz6r/COQ4e18kzrLEMZ SeV3SlKpQ6yJgmzTp37Q0LtwmjdTlJ04NTYAPLdaig/gbu2O2prsj8coxP5+d8Ll osWaPTAP8sD4C6JObQawBWJyH1OQnG3eb2bweXHtBWltUP2dCU5m88xDISDr8ZOt jc+ZshW1sKoQEJWrW+WyJgkf1zqfJRxNEj6GUiRUGkZkAVNk5XZAm51CzE5pVQA= =OJdh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8832f60f-5e0a-df0d-439c-5490578aee21%40jhuapl.edu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: "What does "supported" mean"? was: Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 24 Template for Qubes 3.1?
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki: > So, expect Fedora 24 template being supported in R3.1 soon too :) Thank you! Looking forward to the announcement. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/cc4ed7bf-7a05-ee23-6730-5bbe9094c584%40openmailbox.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: "What does "supported" mean"? was: Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 24 Template for Qubes 3.1?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 04:45:33PM +0100, Achim Patzner wrote: > > > Am 20.11.2016 um 21:16 schrieb Joonas Lehtonen > > : > > > > Hi, > > > > since Qubes 3.1 is supported until 2017-03-29 > > This is a question I always wanted to ask: What does “support” mean in > relation to Qubes? Security fixes? Plus bug fixes? Plus feature upgrades? That's a good question. Surely not major changes in behaviour (new features etc). But for the other two categories I'd say yes. AFAIR there was some major incompatibility in qubes-core-vm package in R3.1 preventing it being fully compatible with Fedora 24 (and requiring a change falling far outside of "bug fixes" category). But after brief test, it looks like my memory fails me (maybe that was about R3.0?) and the only needed thing was replacing tabs with spaces in one file: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-gui-agent-linux/commit/16c98bc7ebebc0c4025ab02ec2e5bbf4dc9a77d2 So, expect Fedora 24 template being supported in R3.1 soon too :) - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYM7qrAAoJENuP0xzK19csMZgH/RryNKJq9wsrnJ9T4djHvSRh HbHvWe+CEfLGnbbO7DIKMrSJr2iJAVcTTuevu4JrI6wSeN48IK5/OzFYqgM6RJiG UFfDCYwM6VnfA5dSIko6XdpZOqFGURJ/ZGDHb+UOMP/CImz6r/COQ4e18kzrLEMZ SeV3SlKpQ6yJgmzTp37Q0LtwmjdTlJ04NTYAPLdaig/gbu2O2prsj8coxP5+d8Ll osWaPTAP8sD4C6JObQawBWJyH1OQnG3eb2bweXHtBWltUP2dCU5m88xDISDr8ZOt jc+ZshW1sKoQEJWrW+WyJgkf1zqfJRxNEj6GUiRUGkZkAVNk5XZAm51CzE5pVQA= =OJdh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161122032529.GC2130%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
"What does "supported" mean"? was: Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 24 Template for Qubes 3.1?
> Am 20.11.2016 um 21:16 schrieb Joonas Lehtonen > : > > Hi, > > since Qubes 3.1 is supported until 2017-03-29 This is a question I always wanted to ask: What does “support” mean in relation to Qubes? Security fixes? Plus bug fixes? Plus feature upgrades? Achim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/51E5C22F-D678-4486-860D-BD4B94928B92%40noses.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
