Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 23 EOL December 20; Update Your Templates!

2016-12-22 Thread Chris Laprise

On 12/22/2016 01:11 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:


Thanks. Just reclaimed 125 GB in a three-year-old StandaloneVM. ^_^

For others, the command I used (in the StandaloneVM):

 $ sudo fstrim -v -a



You use big drives. :)

The 'discard' option can also be added in /etc/fstab so that root 
auto-trims like /rw.


Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 23 EOL December 20; Update Your Templates!

2016-12-21 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-12-21 22:11, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 2016-12-21 21:56, Chris Laprise wrote:
>> On 12/19/2016 12:33 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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>>> On 2016-12-18 17:27, iamthech...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there a guide to update an existing VM to Fedora 24 while 
 preserving it's contents? I upgraded the template per the 
 instructions [1], but can't figure out how to upgrade my
 existing VMs while saving their data.

 I can do a fresh Qubes install if necessary but would rather
 avoid it, if possible.

 [1]
 https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/

>>> If you're referring to TemplateBasedVMs such as AppVMs, then
>>> there's no need to upgrade them. One of the main features of the
>>> template system is that you only have to update and upgrade the
>>> templates, and all VMs based on those TemplateVMs will get their
>>> root filesystems from the TemplateVMs. So, just make sure that
>>> your TemplateBasedVMs are based on your Fedora 24 TemplateVM(s),
>>> and you're good to go.
>>>
>>> If, on the other hand, you're referring to Fedora StandaloneVMs,
>>> then the procedure for upgrading those is the same as for
>>> TemplateVMs, except that StandaloneVMs can't be `qvm-trim`ed
>>> (AFAIK).
>>>
> 
>> IIRC, internal 'fstrim' works on standalone root fs because it
>> doesn't have the COW overlay. So it doesn't need the dom0 tool.
> 
> 
> Thanks. Just reclaimed 125 GB in a three-year-old StandaloneVM. ^_^
> 
> For others, the command I used (in the StandaloneVM):
> 
> $ sudo fstrim -v -a
> 

Added to docs:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/#upgrading-standalonevms

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Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 23 EOL December 20; Update Your Templates!

2016-12-21 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-12-21 21:56, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 12/19/2016 12:33 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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>> On 2016-12-18 17:27, iamthech...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Is there a guide to update an existing VM to Fedora 24 while 
>>> preserving it's contents? I upgraded the template per the 
>>> instructions [1], but can't figure out how to upgrade my
>>> existing VMs while saving their data.
>>> 
>>> I can do a fresh Qubes install if necessary but would rather
>>> avoid it, if possible.
>>> 
>>> [1]
>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
>>> 
>> If you're referring to TemplateBasedVMs such as AppVMs, then
>> there's no need to upgrade them. One of the main features of the
>> template system is that you only have to update and upgrade the
>> templates, and all VMs based on those TemplateVMs will get their
>> root filesystems from the TemplateVMs. So, just make sure that
>> your TemplateBasedVMs are based on your Fedora 24 TemplateVM(s),
>> and you're good to go.
>> 
>> If, on the other hand, you're referring to Fedora StandaloneVMs,
>> then the procedure for upgrading those is the same as for
>> TemplateVMs, except that StandaloneVMs can't be `qvm-trim`ed
>> (AFAIK).
>> 
> 
> IIRC, internal 'fstrim' works on standalone root fs because it
> doesn't have the COW overlay. So it doesn't need the dom0 tool.
> 

Thanks. Just reclaimed 125 GB in a three-year-old StandaloneVM. ^_^

For others, the command I used (in the StandaloneVM):

$ sudo fstrim -v -a

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Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 23 EOL December 20; Update Your Templates!

2016-12-21 Thread Chris Laprise

On 12/19/2016 12:33 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

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On 2016-12-18 17:27, iamthech...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a guide to update an existing VM to Fedora 24 while
preserving it's contents? I upgraded the template per the
instructions [1], but can't figure out how to upgrade my existing
VMs while saving their data.

I can do a fresh Qubes install if necessary but would rather avoid
it, if possible.

[1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/


If you're referring to TemplateBasedVMs such as AppVMs, then there's
no need to upgrade them. One of the main features of the template
system is that you only have to update and upgrade the templates, and
all VMs based on those TemplateVMs will get their root filesystems
from the TemplateVMs. So, just make sure that your TemplateBasedVMs
are based on your Fedora 24 TemplateVM(s), and you're good to go.

If, on the other hand, you're referring to Fedora StandaloneVMs, then
the procedure for upgrading those is the same as for TemplateVMs,
except that StandaloneVMs can't be `qvm-trim`ed (AFAIK).



IIRC, internal 'fstrim' works on standalone root fs because it doesn't 
have the COW overlay. So it doesn't need the dom0 tool.


Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 23 EOL December 20; Update Your Templates!

2016-12-18 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-12-18 17:27, iamthech...@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a guide to update an existing VM to Fedora 24 while
> preserving it's contents? I upgraded the template per the
> instructions [1], but can't figure out how to upgrade my existing
> VMs while saving their data.
> 
> I can do a fresh Qubes install if necessary but would rather avoid
> it, if possible.
> 
> [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
> 

If you're referring to TemplateBasedVMs such as AppVMs, then there's
no need to upgrade them. One of the main features of the template
system is that you only have to update and upgrade the templates, and
all VMs based on those TemplateVMs will get their root filesystems
from the TemplateVMs. So, just make sure that your TemplateBasedVMs
are based on your Fedora 24 TemplateVM(s), and you're good to go.

If, on the other hand, you're referring to Fedora StandaloneVMs, then
the procedure for upgrading those is the same as for TemplateVMs,
except that StandaloneVMs can't be `qvm-trim`ed (AFAIK).

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Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 23 EOL December 20; Update Your Templates!

2016-12-18 Thread iamthechong
Is there a guide to update an existing VM to Fedora 24 while preserving it's 
contents? I upgraded the template per the instructions [1], but can't figure 
out how to upgrade my existing VMs while saving their data.

I can do a fresh Qubes install if necessary but would rather avoid it, if 
possible.

[1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/

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Re: [qubes-users] Fedora 23 EOL December 20; Update Your Templates!

2016-12-09 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-12-09 05:37, Daniel Moerner wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just a friendly reminder that Fedora 23 End of Life is December 20.[1] You 
> may want to make sure you've updated your templates; there is a guide in the 
> Qubes Documentation.[2]
> 
> I know I don't get to decide what people talk about, but I'd like to ask that 
> people NOT use this thread to rehash the debate about the dom0 distribution. 
> :)
> 
> Best,
> Daniel
> 
> [1] https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-23-end-of-life/
> [2] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
> 

Thanks for the reminder, Daniel. I'll also take this
opportunity to re-share our announcement from last month:

https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/11/15/fedora-24-template-available/

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[qubes-users] Fedora 23 EOL December 20; Update Your Templates!

2016-12-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
Hi all,

Just a friendly reminder that Fedora 23 End of Life is December 20.[1] You may 
want to make sure you've updated your templates; there is a guide in the Qubes 
Documentation.[2]

I know I don't get to decide what people talk about, but I'd like to ask that 
people NOT use this thread to rehash the debate about the dom0 distribution. :)

Best,
Daniel

[1] https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-23-end-of-life/
[2] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/

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