Re: [qubes-users] Gaming with qubes
Hi!:) Thanks for the information. Do you have irс? Because of stupid mails, you have to write here with thousands of different accounts, I think it would be more convenient to communicate there. I have been using Qubes on laptops for three years and apart from creating firmware, nothing can be done about it. Decided to collect a workstation on your advice (x220, coreboot/heads) I want to use virtualization at full capacity Advise the video card? Is it RX580? I just bought : 2x CPU AMD-OPTERON-16-Core-6276 ~80 bucks :)) ASUS KGPE-D16 - 170 bucks will she make noise at home? I have a passive cooling of the house, radiators - is it good idea? Is it hard to attach a video card to hvm? I am installing it myself at home, I work in a data center, and for example I was surprised when I found out that the motherboard Supermicro has the same spi chipsets (winbond, micron, macronix) how much memory is needed for the first time? 32-64gb? Thanks :)) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1634819f-ed7d-49f1-be98-4954d0be0650%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Gaming with qubes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 9/14/18 7:34 PM, card...@cypher.fi wrote: > Hey. I recently built new pc with Asus PRIME Z370-P, i7-8700k and > gtx 1060. I care about privacy and security, but i would also like > to game (mainly rainbow six siege and pubg). Is my hardware even > compatible? Is it possible to game in windows 10 vm without > sacrificing performance too much? If someone has done this please > post your experience and tutorial. Thanks in advance. > What the others describing is the ideal way: Passing the VGA to a VM, using PCI Passthrough It is supported by Xen itself, but not trivial to achieve in Qubes. Moreover, your GTX 1060 will not work out of the box, thanks to nVidia. So it might be a nice challenge to try to make it work, but this is not the way if you just want to play games AND use Qubes ;) The "easy way" is: dual booting your machine. Hence you need to sacrifice from security provided by Qubes. And of course not so convenient to reboot several times. aaand even if you dual boot, you will need to use your IGP for Qubes, and the GTX for Windows. Which may involving some kind of BIOS profile switching, and/or blacklisting the noveau driver in Qubes. You can also make your life easier if you using separate disks for Qubes and Windows... - -- Zrubi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEmAe1Y2qfQjTIsHwdVjGlenYHFQ0FAlujUFwACgkQVjGlenYH FQ2dgw//Zi6x2a3ewW+piqjTHh+AFTmk7ZjF30exDFMa5pz/urqWTFwI8K0vVdIn a3s7B1Bxa/F3cyp6N04rWmllfNbe0QC+MqpfIoWwe1YpmzOK3Ooae/OtEGq6IJEq H2UBMgpjC2ivZVgztQm0XSUVXDJ9bS4rR50YsWhMCBiIwhySYEzxRP44SMKCfmo4 0NgEpINiMPK7jGyPYJbOXB7+Nriirjft3y2MqE0VaQWTBYrt5LPo83Se0IycuYeL M5bxa4gS+9aPuHcdlHDXn5tVBSSjuoo2Stmyabj1uGSca3TWWf9Y98uVFp8Octr8 Jbn53FIMlYZXHzLxrKZqI+T5/+xlazIyhNkd57neLzJf6GqP7qUKdcNEFKHtjb9y Y+2MaGidR2aMwd28J+DWjzbOqQOM9h+9uRklRm4j4ROm3Ao7OhOVjL/AV8k8Nz+O DFVSzH7cwFbeG0W5NnchKS3R2IKfI0aYzKc5KNnubdQ5dSD1kUXXchzkCHT68n2c u7DoLi9fCHVSXRefc7GoXN1b3t+YN5y7SxlIu8QJSKCEtEri7F2eGMXuzcGZoG+Q 7Y/M8+HcOsRk/AiH/E4wRy7rpsCGXF7dq9tYmBP2KCGDTXSRPzHG0zoJwbt2CGfX PxrLidOU40nw/SvuNXNhMgrnwWO0mNJQTA0AouYCvvaZSLG1Oms= =3GDu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6322cdc1-c161-8f91-7954-89b892f99716%40zrubi.hu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Gaming with qubes
On 09/15/2018 12:01 AM, David Schissler wrote: > > What is IOMMU-GFX? I can't find any references to the GFX part. > IOMMU for Graphics, it is much more complex to assign a graphics device than a regular device such as a NIC, HBA, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c732498c-154d-3b4b-a12a-24f30762c553%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Gaming with qubes
What is IOMMU-GFX? I can't find any references to the GFX part. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/10dc224e-492e-4c8f-ba22-9df9e3fb21e5%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Gaming with qubes
On 09/14/2018 01:34 PM, card...@cypher.fi wrote: > Hey. > I recently built new pc with Asus PRIME Z370-P, i7-8700k and gtx 1060. I care > about privacy and security If you really do next time don't buy a blobbed and ME'ed PC along with a graphics card from the anti-freedom nvidia that actively prevents the development of the nouveau open source drivers (vs amd making their own) and adds "bugs" to prevent people from using IOMMU-GFX with geforce cards (which wasted me 4 hours when I had a geforce card) > but i would also like to game (mainly rainbow six siege and pubg). Still possible. I play the latest games at max settings in a VM with my libreboot firmware KGPE-D16 with a RX580 (must get an 8gb+ gfx card) and 6328 cpu (with a gpu bottleneck) The KCMA-D8 and KGPE-D16 server/workstation boards work well with qubes 4.0 and they support coreboot-libre+libreboot, OpenBMC[1] and of course IOMMU-GFX They even theoretically support Crossfire xDMA in a VM, one of the cool things that can be done is to normally use crossfire but if a friend comes over assign the second graphics card to another VM so you can game at the same time on the same machine. While computing freedom is dead on x86 (new hardware is not owner controlled) some day there will be games ported to POWER - already people with the owner controlled libre-firmware TALOS 2 are playing multiplayer games together on linux. People said there would never be linux gaming - now many AAA games support linux native! [1](the facebook version of OpenBMC not the better ibm version found on the OpenPOWER machines like the talos 2 but still quite usable for secure owner controlled foss lights out remote access) note the kcma-d8 does not come with the module required to install openbmc it must be purchased separately. > Is my hardware even compatible? No idea maybe, most consumer boards lack IOMMU support or it is broken. > Is it possible to game in windows 10 vm without sacrificing performance too > much? Sure if done right it is not noticeable (ie: no stuttering or w/e) and you only lose 1-3 FPS. > If someone has done this please post your experience and tutorial. I suggest reading the tutorials and information on the xen wiki or for kvm/qemu on the vfio blog. (qubes uses xen) I would suggest however gaming in a VM on a separate computer rather than your qubes computer for performance, security and the fact that it is harder to get it working on qubes apparently. If you have any difficult questions you can't find the answer to anywhere else let me know - I enjoy answering the hard questions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0fa47323-9e17-75a7-f181-800bd7e6c46b%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Gaming with qubes
Hey. I recently built new pc with Asus PRIME Z370-P, i7-8700k and gtx 1060. I care about privacy and security, but i would also like to game (mainly rainbow six siege and pubg). Is my hardware even compatible? Is it possible to game in windows 10 vm without sacrificing performance too much? If someone has done this please post your experience and tutorial. Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/206fd7e7-026d-4193-b897-0f1d54d11a8f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
