Re: [qubes-users] Maybe a silly question

[Jean-Philippe Ouellet]

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Manuel Cornejo
 wrote:
> Doesn't Qubes need and antivirus? What happend if on Qubes we set a VM with 
> Windows 7 in it? Would you install antivirus on the virtual machine hoping 
> that is going to be (the same /more) effective than the traditional not 
> virtualized scenario? How do you protect your Qubes machine from virus? Just 
> by putting down the VM and what about with bios rootkits and other malware?

IMO you are much better off using templates to ensure you don't use
compromised windows VMs to deal with data you care about than you
would be trying to use antivirus (a.k.a. "throwing all the untrusted
input at all the complex parsers, often with extremely weak
sandboxing").

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Re: [qubes-users] Maybe a silly question

[Manuel Cornejo]

El miércoles, 22 de marzo de 2017, 4:32:05 (UTC+1), a.mc...@yandex.com  
escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> KasperskyOS is system for embbeded devices, for industrial devices. I don't 
> see any advantages for home usage in Qubes  OS. Besides, it's a closed source 
> peace of software. Just forget about it, unless you are engineer/developer 
> and going to use it for it's primary purposes.
> 
> 
> 
> As for Kaspersky Security for Virtualization, it could add extra security,  
> but due to it's closed source nature it could be a weakness itself.
> 
> Also, it supports Citrix Xen Server, but it doesn't support open source Xen 
> Server itself... Besides, it's not for free and pretty costly, not for home 
> usage.
> 
> 
> On March 22, 2017 4:35:59 AM AEDT, Manuel Cornejo  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi everyone.
> 
> As Qubes works by means of the principle of security by isolation and every 
> part of the hardware is running in a virtual machine. Does it make any sense 
> to use Kaspersky Security for virtualization over the xen hypervisor  to 
> improve security and antihacker security?
> Is going KasperskyOS to suppose a big concurrency to Qubes?
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Manuel Cornejo

Regarding the cost here it is: 
https://www.antivirussales.com/store/kaspersky-security-virtualization-server-1year-band-p-new
 . $76.38 doesn't seem a lot for 49 seats. The question is that this product is 
licensed for a "network" in mind not for a pc with "networked internals". Well 
so . Doesn't Qubes need and antivirus? What happend if on Qubes we set a VM 
with Windows 7 in it? Would you install antivirus on the virtual machine hoping 
that is going to be (the same /more) effective than the traditional not 
virtualized scenario? How do you protect your Qubes machine from virus? Just by 
putting down the VM and what about with bios rootkits and other malware?

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Re: [qubes-users] Maybe a silly question

[a . mcwheel]

Hi,
KasperskyOS is system for embbeded devices, for industrial devices. I don't see 
any advantages for home usage in Qubes  OS. Besides, it's a closed source peace 
of software. Just forget about it, unless you are engineer/developer and going 
to use it for it's primary purposes.

As for Kaspersky Security for Virtualization, it could add extra security,  but 
due to it's closed source nature it could be a weakness itself.
Also, it supports Citrix Xen Server, but it doesn't support open source Xen 
Server itself... Besides, it's not for free and pretty costly, not for home 
usage.

On March 22, 2017 4:35:59 AM AEDT, Manuel Cornejo  
wrote:
>Hi everyone.
>
>As Qubes works by means of the principle of security by isolation and
>every
>part of the hardware is running in a virtual machine. Does it make any
>sense to use Kaspersky Security for virtualization over the xen
>hypervisor
>to improve security and antihacker security?
>Is going KasperskyOS to suppose a big concurrency to Qubes?
>
>Sincerely
>
>Manuel Cornejo
>
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Re: [qubes-users] Maybe a silly question

[Desobediente]

I second this.

If it's closed source, then by definition it is impossible to improve security. 
It's the other way around, it actually compromises all prior efforts into 
security.

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[qubes-users] Maybe a silly question

[Manuel Cornejo]

Hi everyone.

As Qubes works by means of the principle of security by isolation and every
part of the hardware is running in a virtual machine. Does it make any
sense to use Kaspersky Security for virtualization over the xen hypervisor
to improve security and antihacker security?
Is going KasperskyOS to suppose a big concurrency to Qubes?

Sincerely

Manuel Cornejo

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