Re: [qubes-users] Question related to Qubes Updater of dom0
unman schrieb am Sonntag, 11. Juli 2021 um 12:52:51 UTC+2: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 01:13:04AM -0700, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: > > Can you please elaborate a bit more! - What were you looking for? > > I was looking for a problem with the update process. > There has been a long thread in the forum about why you should use the > updated tool instead of updating locally. In brief, it's used to apply > other things (e.g. configuration changes) besides raw updates. > Looks like I should subscribe to the new forum ! > > > - Why is 'qubes updater' notified in the first place, if nothing needs > > to be done? - OR - > > > > > > - If something got done 'locally', why isn't at least a minimal > > information about the performed activity returned? > > > > This inconsistency / uncertainty is confusing (at least to me ). > > Because the updater does more than just update, it is possible that > there are things not applied. > > What's the situation here? What Qubes version are you on? Qubes version is 4.0 - for more info I've attached the info from 'qubes manager' below. > Do you mean > that dom0 is always marked a requiring updates in the updater tool? > No, not always. - But lately multiple updates have been requested for dom-0, which I performed - but- the system did not provide any change info ... Is it still showing that updates are required? > No, currently there is no notification active about a required update for dom-0. With kind regards, Viktor xen_version: 4.8.5-34.fc25 Linux 5.4.125-1.fc25.qubes.x86_64 Installed Packages: kernel-qubes-vm.x86_64 1000:5.4.107-1.fc25.qubes kernel-qubes-vm.x86_64 1000:5.4.120-1.fc25.qubes kernel-qubes-vm.x86_64 1000:5.4.125-1.fc25.qubes python2-qubesadmin.noarch 4.0.32-1.fc25 python2-qubesimgconverter.x86_64 4.0.31-1.fc25 python3-qubesadmin.noarch 4.0.32-1.fc25 python3-qubesdb.x86_644.0.16-1.fc25 python3-qubesimgconverter.x86_64 4.0.34-1.fc25 qubes-anaconda-addon.noarch 4.0.11-1.fc25 qubes-artwork.noarch 4.0.1-2.fc25 qubes-core-admin-addon-whonix.noarch 4.0.2-1.fc25 qubes-core-admin-client.noarch4.0.32-1.fc25 qubes-core-dom0.x86_644.0.58-1.fc25 qubes-core-dom0-linux.x86_64 4.0.30-1.fc25 qubes-core-dom0-linux-kernel-install.x86_64 qubes-db.x86_64 4.0.16-1.fc25 qubes-db-dom0.x86_64 4.0.16-1.fc25 qubes-db-libs.x86_64 4.0.16-1.fc25 qubes-desktop-linux-common.noarch 4.0.22-1.fc25 qubes-desktop-linux-manager.noarch4.0.25-1.fc25 qubes-gpg-split-dom0.x86_64 2.0.50-1.fc25 qubes-gui-dom0.x86_64 4.0.13-1.fc25 qubes-img-converter-dom0.x86_64 1.2.10-1.fc25 qubes-input-proxy.x86_64 1.0.23-1.fc25 qubes-input-proxy-receiver.x86_64 1.0.23-1.fc25 qubes-libvchan-xen.x86_64 4.0.9-1.fc25 qubes-manager.noarch 4.0.45-1.fc25 qubes-menus.noarch4.0.22-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt.noarch4.0.26-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt-admin-tools.noarch4.0.26-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt-base.noarch 4.0.4-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt-base-config.noarch4.0.2-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt-base-overrides.noarch 4.0.2-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt-base-overrides-libs.noarch qubes-mgmt-salt-base-topd.noarch 4.0.2-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt-config.noarch 4.0.26-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0.noarch 4.0.26-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-qvm.noarch 4.0.10-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-update.noarch4.0.10-1.fc25 qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machines.noarch qubes-pdf-converter-dom0.x86_64 2.1.12-1.fc25 qubes-release.noarch 4.0-10 qubes-release-notes.noarch4.0-10 qubes-rpm-oxide.x86_640.2.2-1.fc25 qubes-template-debian-10.noarch 4.0.1-201910230150 qubes-template-fedora-33.noarch 4.0.6-202012100255 qubes-template-whonix-gw-15.noarch4.0.1-202003070901 qubes-template-whonix-ws-15.noarch4.0.1-202003070901 qubes-usb-proxy-dom0.noarch 1.0.30-1.fc25 qubes-utils.x86_64
Re: [qubes-users] Question related to Qubes Updater of dom0
On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 01:13:04AM -0700, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: > Hello unman, > > unman schrieb am Samstag, 10. Juli 2021 um 16:57:43 UTC+2: > > > Looks good to me > > > > Can you please elaborate a bit more! - What were you looking for? I was looking for a problem with the update process. There has been a long thread in the forum about why you should use the updated tool instead of updating locally. In brief, it's used to apply other things (e.g. configuration changes) besides raw updates. > >- Why is 'qubes updater' notified in the first place, if nothing needs >to be done? - OR - > > >- If something got done 'locally', why isn't at least a minimal >information about the performed activity returned? > > This inconsistency / uncertainty is confusing (at least to me ). Because the updater does more than just update, it is possible that there are things not applied. What's the situation here? What Qubes version are you on? Do you mean that dom0 is always marked a requiring updates in the updater tool? Is it still showing that updates are required? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20210711105246.GA9877%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Question related to Qubes Updater of dom0
Hello unman, unman schrieb am Samstag, 10. Juli 2021 um 16:57:43 UTC+2: > Looks good to me > Can you please elaborate a bit more! - What were you looking for? - Why is 'qubes updater' notified in the first place, if nothing needs to be done? - OR - - If something got done 'locally', why isn't at least a minimal information about the performed activity returned? This inconsistency / uncertainty is confusing (at least to me ). With kind regards, Viktor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b57c9589-9d33-4e4c-afa7-c1556364268fn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Question related to Qubes Updater of dom0
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Re: [qubes-users] Question related to Qubes Updater of dom0
unman schrieb am Samstag, 10. Juli 2021 um 14:48:58 UTC+2: > On Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 12:22:29PM -0700, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: > > Viktor Ransmayr schrieb am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2021 um 23:11:33 UTC+2 > > > > > Am Do., 8. Juli 2021 um 22:05 Uhr schrieb Mike Keehan < > mi...@keehan.net>: > > > > > >> On 7/8/21 7:27 PM, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: > > >> > Hello Qubes Community, > > >> > > > >> > I have received multiple requests to accept an update of 'dom0' > content > > >> > lately. > > >> > > > >> > The only info I've received after performing these updates has > been: > > >> > > > >> > ### > > >> > > > >> > Updating dom0 > > >> > > > >> > local: > > >> > -- > > >> > > > >> > ### > > >> > > > >> > Can someone provide an explanation, a link to read more about it - > or - > > >> > should I be worried? > > >> > > >> Have you "blacklisted" any packages. I get the same messages as above > > >> but that is because I have told RPM to ignore the intel video driver > > >> update - it hangs my screen after a random time interval. > > >> > > > > > > No I have not "blacklisted" any packages. > > > > > > > Same behaviour happened again just now! > > > > Is there any way to get more information (i.e. announcements, logs, > > notifications etc.)? > > What's the result of running `sudo qubes-dom0-update` in dom0 terminal? > Here's the log: [vr@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update Using sys-firewall as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some time... warning: Converting database from bdb to sqlite backend Warning: Enforcing GPG signature check globally as per active RPM security policy (see 'gpgcheck' in dnf.conf(5) for how to squelch this message) Fedora 25 - x86_64 7.7 MB/s | 50 MB 00:06 Fedora 25 - x86_64 - Updates7.3 MB/s | 24 MB 00:03 Qubes Dom0 Repository (updates) 604 kB/s | 2.4 MB 00:04 determining the fastest mirror (14 hosts).. done.-- B/s | 0 B --:-- ETA Qubes Templates repository 4.9 kB/s | 5.9 kB 00:01 Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! No packages downloaded Qubes OS Repository for Dom0 24 MB/s | 29 kB 00:00 [vr@dom0 ~]$ Viktor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/40cf09e9-47be-455c-b854-557a45022709n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Question related to Qubes Updater of dom0
On Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 12:22:29PM -0700, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: > Viktor Ransmayr schrieb am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2021 um 23:11:33 UTC+2 > > > Am Do., 8. Juli 2021 um 22:05 Uhr schrieb Mike Keehan : > > > >> On 7/8/21 7:27 PM, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: > >> > Hello Qubes Community, > >> > > >> > I have received multiple requests to accept an update of 'dom0' content > >> > lately. > >> > > >> > The only info I've received after performing these updates has been: > >> > > >> > ### > >> > > >> > Updating dom0 > >> > > >> > local: > >> > -- > >> > > >> > ### > >> > > >> > Can someone provide an explanation, a link to read more about it - or - > >> > should I be worried? > >> > >> Have you "blacklisted" any packages. I get the same messages as above > >> but that is because I have told RPM to ignore the intel video driver > >> update - it hangs my screen after a random time interval. > >> > > > > No I have not "blacklisted" any packages. > > > > Same behaviour happened again just now! > > Is there any way to get more information (i.e. announcements, logs, > notifications etc.)? > > Viktor > What's the result of running `sudo qubes-dom0-update` in dom0 terminal? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20210710124853.GB4329%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Question related to Qubes Updater of dom0
Viktor Ransmayr schrieb am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2021 um 23:11:33 UTC+2 > Am Do., 8. Juli 2021 um 22:05 Uhr schrieb Mike Keehan : > >> On 7/8/21 7:27 PM, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: >> > Hello Qubes Community, >> > >> > I have received multiple requests to accept an update of 'dom0' content >> > lately. >> > >> > The only info I've received after performing these updates has been: >> > >> > ### >> > >> > Updating dom0 >> > >> > local: >> > -- >> > >> > ### >> > >> > Can someone provide an explanation, a link to read more about it - or - >> > should I be worried? >> >> Have you "blacklisted" any packages. I get the same messages as above >> but that is because I have told RPM to ignore the intel video driver >> update - it hangs my screen after a random time interval. >> > > No I have not "blacklisted" any packages. > Same behaviour happened again just now! Is there any way to get more information (i.e. announcements, logs, notifications etc.)? Viktor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4a120e50-e62b-429b-99fd-3f1c285f409cn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Question related to Qubes Updater of dom0
Hello Mike, Am Do., 8. Juli 2021 um 22:05 Uhr schrieb Mike Keehan : > On 7/8/21 7:27 PM, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: > > Hello Qubes Community, > > > > I have received multiple requests to accept an update of 'dom0' content > > lately. > > > > The only info I've received after performing these updates has been: > > > > ### > > > > Updating dom0 > > > > local: > > -- > > > > ### > > > > Can someone provide an explanation, a link to read more about it - or - > > should I be worried? > > Have you "blacklisted" any packages. I get the same messages as above > but that is because I have told RPM to ignore the intel video driver > update - it hangs my screen after a random time interval. > No I have not "blacklisted" any packages. With kind regards, Viktor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAAeSrGKQDm%3DmzjEXe4rW-BV_nAtdmicv4aVb%3DA3LbVn_36qBSA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Question related to Qubes Updater of dom0
On 7/8/21 7:27 PM, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: Hello Qubes Community, I have received multiple requests to accept an update of 'dom0' content lately. The only info I've received after performing these updates has been: ### Updating dom0 local: -- ### Can someone provide an explanation, a link to read more about it - or - should I be worried? With kind regards, Viktor Have you "blacklisted" any packages. I get the same messages as above but that is because I have told RPM to ignore the intel video driver update - it hangs my screen after a random time interval. Mike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d3994193-a2db-7db8-1eee-c8721a91f207%40keehan.net.
[qubes-users] Question related to Qubes Updater of dom0
Hello Qubes Community, I have received multiple requests to accept an update of 'dom0' content lately. The only info I've received after performing these updates has been: ### Updating dom0 local: -- ### Can someone provide an explanation, a link to read more about it - or - should I be worried? With kind regards, Viktor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6b5d9d70-5c5e-420e-aaf4-f7c81ef63d0en%40googlegroups.com.
