[qubes-users] Re: Can I hope to run Qubes OS on Macbook Air 2013

2019-07-10 Thread alteration2121
Hi, every one. Just like mariiusz Im planing to by a 2012-2014 macbook air for 
qubes.

Eric shelton describes his process  of doing this. What he whent trough Its way 
above my skills and  to time consuming to be an option for me.

However this was back in early 2016. And many versions of qubes has bin 
released by now. So I would like to know if any one has installed the newer 
versions of qubes on the model mentioned abow? Will it work right out of the 
box?

best regards 

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[qubes-users] Re: Can I hope to run Qubes OS on Macbook Air 2013

2019-07-10 Thread alteration2121
"Den onsdag 13 januari 2016 kl. 14:15:06 UTC+1 skrev mariusz...@gmail.com:
> Same as topic name. I am currently running mac os with heavy virtual machines 
> usage to get more security/privacy. I will probably switch to linux soon but 
> since i plan on using a lot of one time use VMs or even whonix i would rather 
> get as secure host as possible. So i figured why not use Qubes OS since i 
> already do everything manually.
> 
> If not mba what high end ultrabook would you recommend ?"

Hi, every one. Just like mariiusz Im planing to by a 2012-2014 macbook air for 
qubes. 

Eric shelton describes his process  of doing this. What he whent trough Its way 
above my skills and  to time consuming to be an option for me. 

However this was back in early 2016. And many versions of qubes has bin 
released by now. So I would like to know if any one has installed the newer 
versions of qubes on the model mentioned abow? Will it work right out of the 
box? 

best regards  

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[qubes-users] Re: Can I hope to run Qubes OS on Macbook Air 2013

2019-02-11 Thread bmhayes
On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 1:39:20 AM UTC+2, Jason Turner wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 12:41:37 PM UTC-5, Eric Shelton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 8:15:06 AM UTC-5, mariusz...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:Same as topic name. I am currently running mac os with heavy virtual 
> > machines usage to get more security/privacy. I will probably switch to 
> > linux soon but since i plan on using a lot of one time use VMs or even 
> > whonix i would rather get as secure host as possible. So i figured why not 
> > use Qubes OS since i already do everything manually.
> > If not mba what high end ultrabook would you recommend ?
> > 
> > 
> >  I got it working on a 2012 MacBook Air w/ 4GB of RAM:
> > 
> > 
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/uLDYGdKk_Dk
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The 3.1 rc series of Qubes supports EFI boot, so you can likely avoid most, 
> > if not all, of the rEFInd stuff in those directions - it should just boot 
> > and install from a USB stick.  Do not create a usbvm in your install - on 
> > Macs the keyboard and trackpad are USB devices, and you won't be able to 
> > sign in if you use a usbvm.  If you have 8GB or RAM, you should be good for 
> > almost anything, including running a non-Linux OS in an HVM domain.  That 
> > could include running OS X within Qubes 
> > (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/RiVntUzgJmY/hiohgHm4BwAJ).  If 
> > you just have 4GB, you can still run Qubes, but mostly just running Linux.
> > 
> > 
> > To be on the safe side, I would suggest first making a USB stick with the 
> > OS X installer on it (you should be able to find instructions for this 
> > online - generally involves downloading the installer via the App Store and 
> > running the createinstallmedia command hiding inside the application).  
> > Then, if things don't work, or you need to return the MacBook Air to some 
> > sane state, you at least have that as a backup.
> > 
> > 
> > Good luck,
> > Eric
> 
> Hi Eric, I'm trying to install Qubes 4.0RC on a 2017 MacBook. I have a USB 
> that it boots from and get to the language screen but the keyboard and 
> trackpad do not work. Any clues on how to get past that?
> 
> Thanks,
> jason

Hi Jason,

Did you get any further with your attempt to install Qubes 4.0 on your MacBook? 
 I'm interested in doing the same.

Thanks
Brian

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[qubes-users] Re: Can I hope to run Qubes OS on Macbook Air 2013

2018-08-20 Thread Jason Turner
On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 12:41:37 PM UTC-5, Eric Shelton wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 8:15:06 AM UTC-5, mariusz...@gmail.com 
> wrote:Same as topic name. I am currently running mac os with heavy virtual 
> machines usage to get more security/privacy. I will probably switch to linux 
> soon but since i plan on using a lot of one time use VMs or even whonix i 
> would rather get as secure host as possible. So i figured why not use Qubes 
> OS since i already do everything manually.
> If not mba what high end ultrabook would you recommend ?
> 
> 
>  I got it working on a 2012 MacBook Air w/ 4GB of RAM:
> 
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/uLDYGdKk_Dk
> 
> 
> 
> The 3.1 rc series of Qubes supports EFI boot, so you can likely avoid most, 
> if not all, of the rEFInd stuff in those directions - it should just boot and 
> install from a USB stick.  Do not create a usbvm in your install - on Macs 
> the keyboard and trackpad are USB devices, and you won't be able to sign in 
> if you use a usbvm.  If you have 8GB or RAM, you should be good for almost 
> anything, including running a non-Linux OS in an HVM domain.  That could 
> include running OS X within Qubes 
> (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/RiVntUzgJmY/hiohgHm4BwAJ).  If 
> you just have 4GB, you can still run Qubes, but mostly just running Linux.
> 
> 
> To be on the safe side, I would suggest first making a USB stick with the OS 
> X installer on it (you should be able to find instructions for this online - 
> generally involves downloading the installer via the App Store and running 
> the createinstallmedia command hiding inside the application).  Then, if 
> things don't work, or you need to return the MacBook Air to some sane state, 
> you at least have that as a backup.
> 
> 
> Good luck,
> Eric

Hi Eric, I'm trying to install Qubes 4.0RC on a 2017 MacBook. I have a USB that 
it boots from and get to the language screen but the keyboard and trackpad do 
not work. Any clues on how to get past that?

Thanks,
jason

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Can I hope to run Qubes OS on Macbook Air 2013

2018-03-05 Thread taii...@gmx.com

On 03/05/2018 03:01 PM, andrewashbac...@gmail.com wrote:


  > Purism is a scam, their laptops are not at all libre or open source and

they never will be for a variety of reasons.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3anjgm/on_the_librem_laptop_purism_doesnt_believe_in/

https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/onpon4/m/what-purism-s-road-to-fsf-ryf-endorsement-chart-should-look-like/
Don't buy from them, you gain no security and you are supporting a bunch
of scumbags.

These links are about two years old and Purism has made significant headway in 
that time.

Wrong - both are still 100% accurate.

"Headway" so what exactly? They still use FSP, they still have a blobbed 
EC, video, power etc and disabling ME is still not only impossible but 
illegal too.
Their coreboot ports do zero hardware init all of it is done by Intel's 
FSP binary blob.


It isn't as if it is impossible to make real freedom hardware but thanks 
to them the idea of a libre laptop has been ruined in the average 
persons head and the freedom hardware movement is set back by a decade 
or more - now everyone expects absolutely brand new x86_64 hardware 
instead of POWER, ARM, or older AMD x86_64 hardware and they also 
believe that you can disable ME and have real freedom on intel hardware.


They could have admitted they fucked up and for instance collaborated 
with raptor engineering to offer a POWER laptop, but instead they 
continue to double down and keep making false claims.

   I encourage you to seek updated information and others to do their own 
research.

How much are they paying you?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Can I hope to run Qubes OS on Macbook Air 2013

2018-03-05 Thread andrewashbacher
 > Purism is a scam, their laptops are not at all libre or open source and 
> they never will be for a variety of reasons.
> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3anjgm/on_the_librem_laptop_purism_doesnt_believe_in/
> 
> https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/onpon4/m/what-purism-s-road-to-fsf-ryf-endorsement-chart-should-look-like/
> Don't buy from them, you gain no security and you are supporting a bunch 
> of scumbags.

These links are about two years old and Purism has made significant headway in 
that time.  I encourage you to seek updated information and others to do their 
own research.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Can I hope to run Qubes OS on Macbook Air 2013

2018-03-02 Thread 'Max Andersen' via qubes-users
On 03/02/2018 06:12 PM, andrewashbac...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 5:15:06 AM UTC-8, mariusz...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>> Same as topic name. I am currently running mac os with heavy virtual 
>> machines usage to get more security/privacy. I will probably switch to linux 
>> soon but since i plan on using a lot of one time use VMs or even whonix i 
>> would rather get as secure host as possible. So i figured why not use Qubes 
>> OS since i already do everything manually.
>>
>> If not mba what high end ultrabook would you recommend ?
> Have you seen the Purism Libre laptops?  https://puri.sm/products/librem-13/

Having a Lenovo X1 Carbon 16GB and 256SSD, a macbook air 8GB 256SSD, a
purism 13v2 with 512nvme and 16gb memory and a Lenovo Yoga 2 pro 8GB adn
256GB SSD, I must say, that the purism is bought with kill switches in
mind. It's more expensive, heavier and thicker.

If Open Source BIOS and kill switches is secondary, then The Lenovo's
are both hard rocking Qubes machines(and the qubes developer team uses
the X1 Carbon). I've had a few issues with the Librem(bios, fan's ,etc),
so be clear about your needs before purchase. If the Purism concept
appeals to you, go for it. If not, don't.

I even bought the Librem5 phone and await its arrival in a year or so,
but I guess I'm just a fanboy.

Sincerely
Max

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[qubes-users] Re: Can I hope to run Qubes OS on Macbook Air 2013

2018-03-02 Thread andrewashbacher
On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 5:15:06 AM UTC-8, mariusz...@gmail.com wrote:
> Same as topic name. I am currently running mac os with heavy virtual machines 
> usage to get more security/privacy. I will probably switch to linux soon but 
> since i plan on using a lot of one time use VMs or even whonix i would rather 
> get as secure host as possible. So i figured why not use Qubes OS since i 
> already do everything manually.
> 
> If not mba what high end ultrabook would you recommend ?

Have you seen the Purism Libre laptops?  https://puri.sm/products/librem-13/

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[qubes-users] Re: Can I hope to run Qubes OS on Macbook Air 2013

2017-01-30 Thread steliospota
Thanks for this reply. Am currently in the process of installing cubes myself 
on a mid 2014 macbook air with 8G RAM. Very kind of you.

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 5:41:37 PM UTC, Eric Shelton wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 8:15:06 AM UTC-5, mariusz...@gmail.com 
> wrote:Same as topic name. I am currently running mac os with heavy virtual 
> machines usage to get more security/privacy. I will probably switch to linux 
> soon but since i plan on using a lot of one time use VMs or even whonix i 
> would rather get as secure host as possible. So i figured why not use Qubes 
> OS since i already do everything manually.
> If not mba what high end ultrabook would you recommend ?
> 
> 
>  I got it working on a 2012 MacBook Air w/ 4GB of RAM:
> 
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/uLDYGdKk_Dk
> 
> 
> 
> The 3.1 rc series of Qubes supports EFI boot, so you can likely avoid most, 
> if not all, of the rEFInd stuff in those directions - it should just boot and 
> install from a USB stick.  Do not create a usbvm in your install - on Macs 
> the keyboard and trackpad are USB devices, and you won't be able to sign in 
> if you use a usbvm.  If you have 8GB or RAM, you should be good for almost 
> anything, including running a non-Linux OS in an HVM domain.  That could 
> include running OS X within Qubes 
> (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/RiVntUzgJmY/hiohgHm4BwAJ).  If 
> you just have 4GB, you can still run Qubes, but mostly just running Linux.
> 
> 
> To be on the safe side, I would suggest first making a USB stick with the OS 
> X installer on it (you should be able to find instructions for this online - 
> generally involves downloading the installer via the App Store and running 
> the createinstallmedia command hiding inside the application).  Then, if 
> things don't work, or you need to return the MacBook Air to some sane state, 
> you at least have that as a backup.
> 
> 
> Good luck,
> Eric

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