[qubes-users] Re: HOWTO: Enable screen poweroff (instead of blanking)

2019-12-25 Thread rec wins
On 12/22/19 4:45 AM, Claudia wrote:
> I just wanted to drop a note here before I forget. Out of the box, Qubes 
> blanks the screen after a few minutes, but never powers off the screen, even 
> though it's configured to do so in the XFCE Power Manager. I've had this 
> problem on several machines, all the way back to R3.2, and I always blamed it 
> on lack of hardware support.
> 
> Turns out, it's because Qubes comes with Xscreensaver enabled which overrides 
> the XFCE Power Manager settings. Xscreensaver is only configured to blank the 
> screen; I'm not sure if it even supports powering it off. To return control 
> to XFCE, go to Menu > System Tools > Session and Startup > Application 
> Autostart, and uncheck "Screensaver". Then you can logout, reboot, or go to 
> Menu > System Tools > Screensaver > File > Kill Daemon. You may have to also 
> open Menu > System Tools > Power Manager > Display, and switch "Display power 
> management" to off and then on again.
> 
> Note this will disable the lockscreen. This is not recommended if you use a 
> USB keyboard or mouse and a USB Qube, or if someone has physical access to 
> your computer while it's on. Otherwise, I recommend enabling screen poweroff 
> in order to conserve energy and lengthen the lifespan of your screen's 
> backlight.
> 

there Does seem to be another session> application autostart
 item  called   Screensaver (Launch screensaver and locker program)(not
just xscreensaver)   that is  'checked' to start  , maybe I'll leave it
alone  for now

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[qubes-users] Re: HOWTO: Enable screen poweroff (instead of blanking)

2019-12-25 Thread rec wins
On 12/23/19 12:23 PM, Defiant wrote:
> 
> 
> On 22. 12. 19 15:45, Claudia wrote:
>>
>> I just wanted to drop a note here before I forget. Out of the box, Qubes 
>> blanks the screen after a few minutes, but never powers off the screen, even 
>> though it's configured to do so in the XFCE Power Manager. I've had this 
>> problem on several machines, all the way back to R3.2, and I always blamed 
>> it on lack of hardware support.
>>
>> Turns out, it's because Qubes comes with Xscreensaver enabled which 
>> overrides the XFCE Power Manager settings. Xscreensaver is only configured 
>> to blank the screen; I'm not sure if it even supports powering it off. To 
>> return control to XFCE, go to Menu > System Tools > Session and Startup > 
>> Application Autostart, and uncheck "Screensaver". Then you can logout, 
>> reboot, or go to Menu > System Tools > Screensaver > File > Kill Daemon. You 
>> may have to also open Menu > System Tools > Power Manager > Display, and 
>> switch "Display power management" to off and then on again.
>>
>> Note this will disable the lockscreen. This is not recommended if you use a 
>> USB keyboard or mouse and a USB Qube, or if someone has physical access to 
>> your computer while it's on. Otherwise, I recommend enabling screen poweroff 
>> in order to conserve energy and lengthen the lifespan of your screen's 
>> backlight.
>>
>>
> 
> I have also noticed this annoyance on several machines and different
> linux distributions so it must be an Xfce problem, not a Qubes problem.
> 
> You're probably asking yourself why do we even need xscreensaver when we
> can instead use a screen locker like lightlocker. I think I read on the
> issues tracker that xscreensaver is the most secure screen "locker" for
> X11 which is why it is used in Qubes, and if you would want to use
> something stronger you'd have to go wayland.
> 
> I hear Qubes 4.1 will use the new Xfce 4.14 though I am unsure whether
> this bug has been fixed in that version.
> 
> 
> Kind regards!
> 

thanks for this,  always wondered ... had given up on any systemwide
changing things

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