Re: [qubes-users] Re: I don't see no stinkin' jinja file

2019-07-09 Thread unman
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 09:03:37PM -0700, drok...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > you likely/may not be able to do sudo apt-get update in the new  -ws -gw 
> >   templates  until you 1st do
> > 
> > sudo apt-get --allow-releaseinfo-change update
> 
> THIS is what I needed.  I wish we could fix it so we don't need to do this, 
> but for now, this works too.
> 
> BTW the Debian-10 template has the same update problem.  I got around it by 
> cloning Debian-9 to Debian-10 and upgraded from there.  No update problems.
> 

This isnt really a problem, but it should have been better explained.

Qubes uses apt-secure in the Debian templates: one side effect of that
is that IF the release info changes the user has to accept the change
before the update will proceed. It's a security check, not a bug.
If you use "apt update" then you are prompted to accept the change.
It isnt possible to set this in a config file, so that QubesUpdater will
fail until the user manually accepts the change.

The solution is to use the command line update once, either by apt-get
or apt, or wait until the next buster templates are built now that
buster is released.

Not every error is a problem, and certainly not a bug, although it
often feels like that.

unman

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[qubes-users] Re: I don't see no stinkin' jinja file

2019-07-08 Thread drokmed
Worked!

>  In dom0.
> 
>  Open file whonix.jinja with root rights.
> 
>  sudo nano /srv/formulas/base/virtual-machines-formula/qvm/whonix.jinja
> 
>  Change 14 to 15 .
> 
>  Save.

Strange, it was already set to 15.

> hence, I can't vouche that this is the official  "way" forward
> 
> also note after you do get it installed with the script (waiting up to 
> 30-60 minutes to avoid the dreaded "unstable system"  there is a new caveat

Actually, the "sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix" gave me a bunch of 
errors, so I did it the old fashioned way, which worked:

sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=install qubes-template-whonix-gw-15

That worked fine.

> you likely/may not be able to do sudo apt-get update in the new  -ws -gw 
>   templates  until you 1st do
> 
> sudo apt-get --allow-releaseinfo-change update

THIS is what I needed.  I wish we could fix it so we don't need to do this, but 
for now, this works too.

BTW the Debian-10 template has the same update problem.  I got around it by 
cloning Debian-9 to Debian-10 and upgraded from there.  No update problems.

> sometimes I think there are about 15 people in the world using this OS   :)

I suspect hundreds, if not thousands of journalists use Qubes.  They've made 
more than one youtube video.  I get your point though, support sites sure are 
quiet.

> 
> yours truly,
> jinja

Thanks again

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[qubes-users] Re: I don't see no stinkin' jinja file

2019-07-08 Thread drokmed
On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 8:00:40 PM UTC-7, Jon deps wrote:
> On 7/9/19 2:17 AM, drokmed-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > Giving up trying to run tor on qubes.
> > 
> > whonix-gw-14 no longer updates, and I got the whonix-gw-15 installed, but 
> > it doesn't update either.
> > 
> > Saw something about a jinja file mentioned in a couple comments here, but 
> > no mention of it on the whonix installation instructions.  Don't know where 
> > it is, and wouldn't know what to do with it if I found it.
> > 
> > I'm glad you veterans knee deep in testing here got it working, but for us 
> > new people, not a prayer.
> > 
> 
> maybe you don't see it because the  developer removed it , as it  Was 
> there before
> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install
> 
> 
>  In dom0.
> 
>  Open file whonix.jinja with root rights.
> 
>  sudo nano /srv/formulas/base/virtual-machines-formula/qvm/whonix.jinja
> 
>  Change 14 to 15 .
> 
>  Save.
> 
> 
> 
> hence, I can't vouche that this is the official  "way" forward
> 
> also note after you do get it installed with the script (waiting up to 
> 30-60 minutes to avoid the dreaded "unstable system"  there is a new caveat
> 
> you likely/may not be able to do sudo apt-get update in the new  -ws -gw 
>   templates  until you 1st do
> 
> sudo apt-get --allow-releaseinfo-change update
> 
> https://forums.whonix.org/t/apt-get-error-e-repository-tor-https-cdn-aws-deb-debian-org-debian-security-buster-updates-inrelease-changed-its-suite-value-from-testing-to-stable/7704
> 
> 
> sometimes I think there are about 15 people in the world using this OS   :)
> 
> yours truly,
> jinja

Thanks!

I'll do that now :)

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[qubes-users] Re: I don't see no stinkin' jinja file

2019-07-08 Thread Jon deps

On 7/9/19 2:17 AM, drokmed-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:

Giving up trying to run tor on qubes.

whonix-gw-14 no longer updates, and I got the whonix-gw-15 installed, but it 
doesn't update either.

Saw something about a jinja file mentioned in a couple comments here, but no 
mention of it on the whonix installation instructions.  Don't know where it is, 
and wouldn't know what to do with it if I found it.

I'm glad you veterans knee deep in testing here got it working, but for us new 
people, not a prayer.



maybe you don't see it because the  developer removed it , as it  Was 
there before

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install


In dom0.

Open file whonix.jinja with root rights.

sudo nano /srv/formulas/base/virtual-machines-formula/qvm/whonix.jinja

Change 14 to 15 .

Save.



hence, I can't vouche that this is the official  "way" forward

also note after you do get it installed with the script (waiting up to 
30-60 minutes to avoid the dreaded "unstable system"  there is a new caveat


you likely/may not be able to do sudo apt-get update in the new  -ws -gw 
 templates  until you 1st do


sudo apt-get --allow-releaseinfo-change update

https://forums.whonix.org/t/apt-get-error-e-repository-tor-https-cdn-aws-deb-debian-org-debian-security-buster-updates-inrelease-changed-its-suite-value-from-testing-to-stable/7704


sometimes I think there are about 15 people in the world using this OS   :)

yours truly,
jinja

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