Re: [qubes-users] Re: Last dom0 update broke 3.2

2017-11-21 Thread Franz
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Yuraeitha  wrote:

> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 7:52:10 PM UTC, Francesco wrote:
> > After last dom0 update it properly restarted but gave some qubes manager
> errors.
> >
> >
> > Second restart keeps restarting on a loop Every time giving the enclosed
> screen.
> >
> >
> > Best
> > Fran
>
> I'd suspect you can probably bypass it by selecting your old kernel before
> the update. I've had that issue a few times my self on Qubes and various
> other Linux systems. If you run Grub, then instead select "Advanced" and go
> in and select the second kernel instead of the top one (which is the newly
> installed and now default kernel).
> The lowest kernel is the one installed before the one that worked before.
> Qubes saves up to 3 kernels by default, if needed it can be extended
> indefinitely, but 3 is usually enough.
>

It worked. Many thanks. I had to use supergrubdisk.org USB booting key and
with that was able to choose which kernel to boot on.

Many thanks it saved my work.
Best
Fran

>
> If you installed Qubes over EFI/UEFI instead of Legacy BIOS, then you'll
> need to pick a live boot medium, or use the Qubes installer to enter rescue
> mode, and then navigate to your /boot/efi/'somewhere here abouts' and find
> your xen.cfg file. In this file you can edit which kernel EFI boot mode
> should boot with.
>
> If any of the associated kernel/module updates broke something else, like
> for example a hardware like Wifi/networking, then it becomes much more
> tricky. It's often, in my experence at least, typically easy to recover
> from bad kernels and at least boot it up. The question is more, if
> something else stopped working too, albeit in my experience it's typically
> enough to just pick the last kernel.
>
> Also, if you succesfully get into Qubes again, then I'd recommend you
> increase your max saved kernels with 'sudo nano /etc/dnf/dnf.conf' and
> locate the line called Installonly_limit=3 to 5 or abouts.
>
> The reasoning for this, is because if another future kernel upgrade also
> fails, then you'll get no more chances of easy recovery if all working
> kernels were automatically deleted during the update. If you set it to 5,
> it'll then save 5 kernels.
>
> Just be sure your kernel partition has enough disk space to house older
> kernels associated with the number of kernels you choose to save.
>
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Last dom0 update broke 3.2

2017-11-19 Thread Franz
On Nov 18, 2017 17:36, "Ron Qubed"  wrote:

On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 12:52:10 PM UTC-7, Francesco wrote:
> After last dom0 update it properly restarted but gave some qubes manager
errors.
>
>
> Second restart keeps restarting on a loop Every time giving the enclosed
screen.
>
>
> Best
> Fran

I ran into something similar after my first Qubes 3.2 install. I did some
tinkering with the USB to get my USB keyboard and mouse working again after
setting up sys-usb the default way (having missed the warning). I think I
broke something along the way. It worked for a while with some warnings
messages during boot. But finally, one of the updates broke it completely,
and I couldn't boot without a kernel panic.

I just re-installed and did the USB setup right the second time around.
Didn't lose anything essential thanks to having moved the appvms to a
separate drive (though it took me a little while to figure out how to
restore them).


Thanks, but I did not move the appvms to a separate drive. Just default
installation. Is there a way to reinstall without loosing them?


Ron

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Last dom0 update broke 3.2

2017-11-19 Thread Franz
On Nov 12, 2017 17:18, "Yuraeitha"  wrote:

On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 7:52:10 PM UTC, Francesco wrote:
> After last dom0 update it properly restarted but gave some qubes manager
errors.
>
>
> Second restart keeps restarting on a loop Every time giving the enclosed
screen.
>
>
> Best
> Fran

I'd suspect you can probably bypass it by selecting your old kernel before
the update. I've had that issue a few times my self on Qubes and various
other Linux systems. If you run Grub,


Many thanks. Sorry for the late reply. Only now I am seeing your post and
replying with a cellphone because computer does not start. How may I run
Grub if the computer does not start?

then instead select "Advanced" and go in and select the second kernel
instead of the top one (which is the newly installed and now default
kernel).
The lowest kernel is the one installed before the one that worked before.
Qubes saves up to 3 kernels by default, if needed it can be extended
indefinitely, but 3 is usually enough.

If you installed Qubes over EFI/UEFI instead of Legacy BIOS,


I remember installed it over Legacy BIOS

then

you'll need to pick a live boot medium, or use the Qubes installer to enter
rescue mode,


Understand that thanks. I will try Monday when back home where do have the
Qubes installer. But may I run Grub with a Qubes installer?

and then navigate to your /boot/efi/'somewhere here abouts' and find your
xen.cfg file. In this file you can edit which kernel EFI boot mode should
boot with.

If any of the associated kernel/module updates broke something else, like
for example a hardware like Wifi/networking, then it becomes much more
tricky. It's often, in my experence at least, typically easy to recover
from bad kernels and at least boot it up. The question is more, if
something else stopped working too, albeit in my experience it's typically
enough to just pick the last kernel.


Hope so


Also, if you succesfully get into Qubes again, then I'd recommend you
increase your max saved kernels with 'sudo nano /etc/dnf/dnf.conf' and
locate the line called Installonly_limit=3 to 5 or abouts.

The reasoning for this, is because if another future kernel upgrade also
fails, then you'll get no more chances of easy recovery if all working
kernels were automatically deleted during the update. If you set it to 5,
it'll then save 5 kernels.


Got it. Thanks


Just be sure your kernel partition has enough disk space to house older
kernels associated with the number of kernels you choose to save.


Which is the name of kernel partition?


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[qubes-users] Re: Last dom0 update broke 3.2

2017-11-18 Thread Ron Qubed
On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 12:52:10 PM UTC-7, Francesco wrote:
> After last dom0 update it properly restarted but gave some qubes manager 
> errors.
> 
> 
> Second restart keeps restarting on a loop Every time giving the enclosed 
> screen.
> 
> 
> Best
> Fran

I ran into something similar after my first Qubes 3.2 install. I did some 
tinkering with the USB to get my USB keyboard and mouse working again after 
setting up sys-usb the default way (having missed the warning). I think I broke 
something along the way. It worked for a while with some warnings messages 
during boot. But finally, one of the updates broke it completely, and I 
couldn't boot without a kernel panic.

I just re-installed and did the USB setup right the second time around. Didn't 
lose anything essential thanks to having moved the appvms to a separate drive 
(though it took me a little while to figure out how to restore them).

Ron

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[qubes-users] Re: Last dom0 update broke 3.2

2017-11-12 Thread Yuraeitha
On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 7:52:10 PM UTC, Francesco wrote:
> After last dom0 update it properly restarted but gave some qubes manager 
> errors.
> 
> 
> Second restart keeps restarting on a loop Every time giving the enclosed 
> screen.
> 
> 
> Best
> Fran

I'd suspect you can probably bypass it by selecting your old kernel before the 
update. I've had that issue a few times my self on Qubes and various other 
Linux systems. If you run Grub, then instead select "Advanced" and go in and 
select the second kernel instead of the top one (which is the newly installed 
and now default kernel). 
The lowest kernel is the one installed before the one that worked before. Qubes 
saves up to 3 kernels by default, if needed it can be extended indefinitely, 
but 3 is usually enough. 

If you installed Qubes over EFI/UEFI instead of Legacy BIOS, then you'll need 
to pick a live boot medium, or use the Qubes installer to enter rescue mode, 
and then navigate to your /boot/efi/'somewhere here abouts' and find your 
xen.cfg file. In this file you can edit which kernel EFI boot mode should boot 
with.

If any of the associated kernel/module updates broke something else, like for 
example a hardware like Wifi/networking, then it becomes much more tricky. It's 
often, in my experence at least, typically easy to recover from bad kernels and 
at least boot it up. The question is more, if something else stopped working 
too, albeit in my experience it's typically enough to just pick the last 
kernel. 

Also, if you succesfully get into Qubes again, then I'd recommend you increase 
your max saved kernels with 'sudo nano /etc/dnf/dnf.conf' and locate the line 
called Installonly_limit=3 to 5 or abouts. 

The reasoning for this, is because if another future kernel upgrade also fails, 
then you'll get no more chances of easy recovery if all working kernels were 
automatically deleted during the update. If you set it to 5, it'll then save 5 
kernels. 

Just be sure your kernel partition has enough disk space to house older kernels 
associated with the number of kernels you choose to save.

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